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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 02:58 GMT
#341
If you wanna post TL;DR go to dyslexics anothernymouse
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 03:05 GMT
#342
I'm going to bed. Goodnight guys.
Life can only kill you once.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
April 27 2011 03:17 GMT
#343
On April 27 2011 11:52 Jackal58 wrote:
First Impervious isn't new.

I'm flattered that you would stand up for me here.

While this is far from my first game of mafia, this is only my 3rd game on TL. Thanks for standing up for me, although I'm sure you're still a little buthurt from the results of the Superbowl.

<3 GB Packers!

~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#344
you guys sure you dont want BrownBear as part of town?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 27 2011 04:02 GMT
#345
[image loading]
Night 1

BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS

The government has just issued a situation report on a raid that happened not but two hours ago:

"At twenty-two hundred hours today, the house of Kenpachi was raided by the government due to tips that he was an enemy agent from cilivian sources. As governemnt agents were searching the house, one Kenpachi appeared out of the basement and aggressively approached the search team. He reached into his pockets and deeming him a hostile target, the search team responded with deadly force. Two rounds were fired to subdue him and when inspecting his body, it was found that he had high blood-alcohol levels and his pocket contained a wallent and a pack of cigerettes."

Thirty minutes afterwards, Deputy Director Chaoser of the SIA called a news conference where he publicly apologized for the debacle and vowed to examine the intelligence the agency was receiving more closely before acting on it.

"A tragedy happened today and there are no excuses for what transpired. I take full responsibilities for the events of today and an internal audit will be conducted. However, at this time, our ground operations of searching for sleeper agents will still be continued and justice will prevail..."

While panic is rampant and confusion continues to spread amongst the populace, traces of decency still exist. A ceremony for Kenpachi will be held on Wednesday of next week at the church on 34th and 5th.

In unrelated news, two civilians, one named Rean and the other Tackster, were found dead in an alleyway. Autopsy of the two has yet to return any conclusive results on how they died but witnesses reported strange lightening bolts coming down from the sky in the vicinity of where the two were found.

That's all for tonight and this is iGrok of the Channel 4 News Team, signing off. Coverage will continue tomorrow and to everyone out there, good luck and good night.


Kenpachi the Townie is dead
Rean the Sleeper Agent has been modkilled
Tackster the Townie has been modkilled

Night ends at 24:00 EST tomorrow, be sure to get in your night actions
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 27 2011 04:07 GMT
#346
lol 2:1. kk gl town
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 13:23:20
April 27 2011 08:13 GMT
#347
......I didn't realize the deadline was this night

Sorry mafia

edit:fixed it since i was kinda pissed when writing this
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 27 2011 12:02 GMT
#348
On April 27 2011 17:13 Rean wrote:
......I didn't realize the deadline was this night. Also, sending a reminder 1 hour before the vote is nice and all but when the voting deadline is in the middle of the night for you that's not really helpful >.<

Sorry mafia I guess.....


I don't really see how you could have read this thread and not realized this. Don't blame mods for your own laziness.

Also you should apologize to everyone, not just mafia....you made the game shittier for everyone.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 27 2011 12:58 GMT
#349
On April 27 2011 13:02 chaoser wrote:
Night ends at 24:00 EST tomorrow, be sure to get in your night actions


This is midnight EST right? Military brat here, gotta say midnight is 00:00, not 24:00
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 27 2011 13:49 GMT
#350
I realize its night time, but that is no reason to shut up and stop discussion, we have all of twenty four hours to start deciding things like lynches and blue direction. For the sake of discussion I am going to post a list of people I think need DT checks, vigi shots and medic protects.

DT Checks

Jackal58 - Ace thinks Jackal has been acting scummy, for this reason alone I think a dt should take a look at jackal, the results would be interesting either way

Mr. Wiggles - I already pointed out that I am suspicious of him, it would be nice to know definitely, as I know wiggles has the potential to contribute to the town if he is town aligned, if he is not he is very good about scooting along with large vacuous posts

GMarshal - DTs should aways check the most vocal players. I consider myself a vocal player, therefore I should be checked

Ace - its Ace, as policy he should be checked. Also I find his retraction of the vote on jackal to be unexpected, from seeing previous games with Ace I would have expected him to stick to his guns with the lynch.

Impervious- he has many posts, yet oddly enough, not a single one of them stuck in my mind, to me this means his posts have been empty enough to not be memorable, I think that merits a check

Vigilante Shots - now its *really* debated whether it is best for vigilantes to shoot night one or not, if the vigi is not in imminent danger and is not confident on his mafia kill I belive in saving the shot for later, however some people subscribe to using it for people they would lynch on policy, e.g. liars, or lurkers. If a vigi *had* to fire tonight I would think the best shot would be at an inactive who might be lurking scum. That is the gist of my suggestions on here

Eiii- Lurking, pops up to defend himself, resumes lurking, not a town asset at the moment, so we can do without him

GGQ- more of the same deal with Eiii, lurking inactively, hasn't really weighed in on anything.

why- with a grand total of four posts all he has done is attack jackal, I dont think he is contributing and we can do without him

Vain- I see every one of his posts as either a rehash of old ideas or a non-contribution

darm- because I think it would be hilarious to have him die day one this game too (don't actually shoot him for that, it was a joke...)

Medic Protects

GMarshal- I dont want to die, please dont let me die, I'll go through mafia withdrawal again and it wont be pretty

Ace- he is Ace, high profile target and all that, I want him around in the late game.

Jackal (maybe) - he is a great endgame player, and I wouldn't mind having him around to scum-hunt in the late game, I don't know how likely it is he will be targeted though.

other than that I don't know who scum might go after to be honest, as they risk hitting one of their own whatever they choose to do

Alright, so take a gander and debate my list up and down, who did I forget to include ? Who did I include who shouldn't be there?

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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 27 2011 14:07 GMT
#351
GM, anyone you have a strong town read on?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 14:19 GMT
#352
GMan do you really want vigis shooting tonight?

From the OP:
Mafia wins when they outnumber Town and Town has no killing roles remaining. Mafia will kill the submitted name with a simple majority of votes.

Seems a bit hasty to me man.
Life can only kill you once.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
April 27 2011 14:25 GMT
#353
On April 27 2011 22:49 GMarshal wrote:
I realize its night time, but that is no reason to shut up and stop discussion, we have all of twenty four hours to start deciding things like lynches and blue direction. For the sake of discussion I am going to post a list of people I think need DT checks, vigi shots and medic protects.

DT Checks

Jackal58 - Ace thinks Jackal has been acting scummy, for this reason alone I think a dt should take a look at jackal, the results would be interesting either way

Mr. Wiggles - I already pointed out that I am suspicious of him, it would be nice to know definitely, as I know wiggles has the potential to contribute to the town if he is town aligned, if he is not he is very good about scooting along with large vacuous posts

GMarshal - DTs should aways check the most vocal players. I consider myself a vocal player, therefore I should be checked

Ace - its Ace, as policy he should be checked. Also I find his retraction of the vote on jackal to be unexpected, from seeing previous games with Ace I would have expected him to stick to his guns with the lynch.

Impervious- he has many posts, yet oddly enough, not a single one of them stuck in my mind, to me this means his posts have been empty enough to not be memorable, I think that merits a check

Vigilante Shots - now its *really* debated whether it is best for vigilantes to shoot night one or not, if the vigi is not in imminent danger and is not confident on his mafia kill I belive in saving the shot for later, however some people subscribe to using it for people they would lynch on policy, e.g. liars, or lurkers. If a vigi *had* to fire tonight I would think the best shot would be at an inactive who might be lurking scum. That is the gist of my suggestions on here

Eiii- Lurking, pops up to defend himself, resumes lurking, not a town asset at the moment, so we can do without him

GGQ- more of the same deal with Eiii, lurking inactively, hasn't really weighed in on anything.

why- with a grand total of four posts all he has done is attack jackal, I dont think he is contributing and we can do without him

Vain- I see every one of his posts as either a rehash of old ideas or a non-contribution

darm- because I think it would be hilarious to have him die day one this game too (don't actually shoot him for that, it was a joke...)

Medic Protects

GMarshal- I dont want to die, please dont let me die, I'll go through mafia withdrawal again and it wont be pretty

Ace- he is Ace, high profile target and all that, I want him around in the late game.

Jackal (maybe) - he is a great endgame player, and I wouldn't mind having him around to scum-hunt in the late game, I don't know how likely it is he will be targeted though.

other than that I don't know who scum might go after to be honest, as they risk hitting one of their own whatever they choose to do

Alright, so take a gander and debate my list up and down, who did I forget to include ? Who did I include who shouldn't be there?


I guess we're going to use traditional mafia lingo in this game.....

For the DT checks, I'd also want to know about Ace. He is a great player, which is why I'd want to be sure he's on my side. He's also acting a little weird, and I'm not sure what to make of it at the moment. He would be my check tonight, for sure, unless something happens between now and the end of the night.

I'm also confused about why. From what I've seen in the thread, he's held in somewhat high regard (this is my first time playing with him, and I haven't observed a game where he played either, so I don't know myself). With having few posts, and generally unconstructive posting (I know most of mine are also pretty useless, but I've got a lot of them, so I'll eventually write something useful, much like how a room full of monkeys with typewriters will eventually come up with the entire work of Shakespeare), it seems like it would be pretty uncharacteristic of an experienced player.



I dont think the vigi is in danger yet..... The chance of getting hit tonight/lyched tomorrow is pretty low, and it will probably be far more useful to have the kill around for later. Also, while there are players we can do without, I really think it would be better to lynch them rather than waste a vigi kill on. So I'd agree, unless the Vigi has a really good lead on one of the members of the mafia, it would be better to save the hit for later.



Also, while it would be nice to have a medic on our side (among other roles, such as a veteran), we don't know for sure. It would be better to assume that we don't. We're going to need to assume that we'll lose someone tonight, and at this point, it seems to be pretty unlikely that the mafia will force a kill on one of their own.



Another thing to worry about - the mafia just lost a member. Unless Rean was the first person contacted by the GF (which I find very unlikely, although it is possible that the GF made that big of a mistake), then there are probably only 2 more people who have to be contacted..... Which means the mafia should know who each other are. While it's not as useful as being able to discuss at night, like most mafia games, it will help them tremendously. We have to assume that for tomorrow night, they'll be able to be somewhat coordinated.....
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#354
On April 27 2011 11:28 tnkted wrote:
I actually wanted to draw a hit from mafia tonight, hopefully I did. I'll explain after the day post.

Some people weren't content letting me play my game (jackal, of whom I would expect nothing less, impervious, who I think is just new, and zorkmid, who got overly defensive when he was FOS'd and immediately latched onto what he considered the weakest player). This was pretty stupid on their part. I think most of the rest of the crew here understood that I was trying to draw mafia attention with my 'fake' slip. Ace certainly got it, when he called it bad play, and I think darm understood it. I didn't realize Ace was so well regarded in the mafia community, but apparently he is and he's probably going to be killed tonight. If I were scum I'd vote for him. Hopefully my gambit drew enough votes to save him.

Full claim after the post.


I agree with your list GM, and would like to suggest adding tnkted to the DT list. I previously had a slight town read on him, but I find it hard to believe this wasn't done on purpose. C'mon, not reading the thread before posting this and claiming missing the the night post by about 23 hours?
I also don't understand how he can be so sure ace is not scum to go out of his way to do this, just to fuck up his own genious plan before it came to fruition.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 27 2011 14:39 GMT
#355
Let's wait and see if Ace is still alive tomorrow before we waste a check on him.

It will take us a long time to determine whether we have a medic or not, as no sane person with a sense of self preservation dares claim.

GM, I'm thinking that your Vigi list should be more for DT checks. I'm not sold on first night shootings for vigis, as they can be oh so valuable later on.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 27 2011 15:18 GMT
#356
Ok here goes. So I took everyone's list of 3 for a reason. I wanted to see which players had the most people willing to admit they'd contact them secretly through PMs. I tallied them up and here are the final results. I also took out what I thought were unique keywords the players used when describing what they'd say to each player they picked.


GMarshal

Ace - pardoner, XXXVIII, veteran, information
Mr. Wiggles - serial killer
why

sandroba
Ace
GM
Mr. Wiggles

Ace
Eiii - recall, 2 years ago
Jackal58 - suck
Gmarshal/darmousseh/GGQ - modded, prime, choices

Jackal58
tnkted - My beloved
Tackster - You're easiest (dead)
GMarshall - Clues and Puzzles

tnkted
Twinkle Twinkle Little Scum 3rd

Rean (dead)
Jackal58 - breadcrumb this, my beloved
GMarshal - "wheels on bus go round" my bus driving skills in insane 2

Vain
Ace
tnkted
GMarshal

why
"do something specific"
Ace
Wiggles
GGQ

Zorkmid
Ace - Make friends of Violence, Joy
Jackal58 - Make friends of Violence, Avarice
Vain - Make friends of Avarice, Joy

Mr. Wiggles
PI Bear, Detective, grisly
Ace - analyzer/arguer
GMarshal - all around player
Jackal58 - tunnel, aggressive, friendly fire

Impervious
Ace
Mr.Wiggles
GMarshal

Eiii
Ace
Jackal - insane 2
Tackster (dead)


[u]Final Tally[u]
Ace (8)
Mr.Wiggles (4)
why
GMarshal(7)
Eiii
Jackal58 (5)
darmousseh
GGQ(2)
tnkted(2)
Tackster(2)
Rean
Vain

So the top players that the Detective should check tonight: myself, GM, Jackal and Mr.Wiggles. We are the players that were mentioned the most as players that would be picked to contact.

Secondly those keywords are there so that from now on (or even before this post) if anyone posts with those unique words we have something to go off of. With the Cell Leader not being able to mass communicate I think keywords in the thread are their only option. With everyone on the lookout for keywords or hints to things only the players would share we can slow them down.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 15:25 GMT
#357
Looks like GMarshall's DT list.
And some of those words will be hard to avoid.
Life can only kill you once.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 27 2011 15:30 GMT
#358
Yea similar ideas just a different path to get there. I tried to pick unique words that would stand out. Even if they are hard to avoid I think that's a way to limit in thread communication. I
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 27 2011 15:36 GMT
#359
On April 27 2011 22:49 GMarshal wrote:
Ace - its Ace, as policy he should be checked. Also I find his retraction of the vote on jackal to be unexpected, from seeing previous games with Ace I would have expected him to stick to his guns with the lynch.


I don't know how many games of me you've read but I don't always stick to my vote, especially not Day 1. Also with no majority lynch someone can end up dying with a couple of votes. Like Kenpachi who only died with 3 votes. How come no one went back to look at it?

Zorkmid actually ended up deciding Kenpachi's fate. Mr.Wiggles would have gotten lynched but the vote switch ended up taking out Kenpachi instead. He's also a good target to DT check and may actually be the best one.

@Impervious: Acting weird how?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#360
On April 28 2011 00:36 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 22:49 GMarshal wrote:
Ace - its Ace, as policy he should be checked. Also I find his retraction of the vote on jackal to be unexpected, from seeing previous games with Ace I would have expected him to stick to his guns with the lynch.


I don't know how many games of me you've read but I don't always stick to my vote, especially not Day 1. Also with no majority lynch someone can end up dying with a couple of votes. Like Kenpachi who only died with 3 votes. How come no one went back to look at it?

Zorkmid actually ended up deciding Kenpachi's fate. Mr.Wiggles would have gotten lynched but the vote switch ended up taking out Kenpachi instead. He's also a good target to DT check and may actually be the best one.

@Impervious: Acting weird how?


I realize you dont always stick to your vote, I just expected you to argue harder for your target. what game do you think exemplifies your town play the best? I'd like to go back and read it to try to get a slight grasp on your town meta, tbh most of the games I've read where I've focused on your play are ones where you were mafia.

Its interesting how our DT lists overlap, and you bring up a good point Zorkmid, I hadn't really taken a good look at the votes. Its relevant to note how scattered the votes are, the clear sign of a disunited town and a disunited mafia, we need to work on that tomorrow, as the current vote list reveals little information outside of what Ace just pointed out.

I think your GF target list was a clever idea, I don't know how much it helps, but it did give interesting results.
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