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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#381
Guys gmarshal is mafia from first post, ill post why later

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nah i havent even read the thread yet
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 20:27 GMT
#382
Did you remember to bring the goddamned RPGs??????
Life can only kill you once.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 27 2011 21:28 GMT
#383
Wow this is confusing, but I think I got the basic gist of the mechanics. Ace, wouldnt the name game be kinda helpful for CL to make a list and be able to point out multiple persons without naming names? And jackal is the traffic thing a breadcrumb lol? I've been reading through thread keeping my eyes open for non-thread related stuff just in case, and you spend a nice chunk on discussing traffic lol...

Kinda suspicious of Ace to what he is suggesting and how it helps town. Jackal next because of the traffic, and I haven't read into anyone else, except tnkted, who will just sit in a corner sprinkling his little crumbs everywhere. Aren't we supposed to try to prevent everyone from being able to breadcrumb, not give them the best opportunities to do so?

Maybe I missed key stuff, but I don't really have much time for a full analysis yet. I'm stuck in traffic
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 27 2011 21:29 GMT
#384
Oh and before anyone accuses me of breadcrumbing anywhere, I have one word for you:

Batman.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#385
Yeah, town should definitely be avoiding breadcrumbs, as we don't want to give mafia a screen to hide their breadcrumbs behind.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#386
On April 28 2011 04:23 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 00:18 Ace wrote:
So the top players that the Detective should check tonight: myself, GM, Jackal and Mr.Wiggles. We are the players that were mentioned the most as players that would be picked to contact.


I still have no clue what the point of this was. You know the gf doesn't get to pick his scumbuddies, right? Is this some kind of metagaming thing where you're trying to figure out who would be most likely to be picked, or are you gf and do you know something about how the scum side works that we don't?

Ooooor was the point to just assign a unique keyword to a set of players to make communication easier?


Yes we know that. The point is that if you see players in the thread change their behaviors toward one another or start typing those unique keywords then there's a chance for secret communication. Did you read my entire post?

@bum: Explain.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 27 2011 22:03 GMT
#387
6 more hours till end of night, be sure to PM both me and iGrok your actions
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
April 27 2011 22:20 GMT
#388
My DT list:

Mr. Wiggles: People think I'm suspicious cause of GMarshal's analysis, popular demand.

Ace: Experienced player, supposedly God-like Scum, role mechanics would help us know his alignment better and most importantly sooner.

GMarshal: Playing similar to the way he did in XXXVIII, where he was scum. Acted mostly pro-town and made an analysis there of me on Day 1 too. Both times now, the analysis hasn't make a strong case and just ended up saying: "IGMEOY Wiggles! FOS!". So a DT check because of the similarities.

Darmousseh: Lurking hardcore, hasn't contributed. Saying "I'm town, don't lynch me" in his first post and pointing out blues in others doesn't make him seem particularly green to me.
you gotta dance
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 27 2011 22:28 GMT
#389
On April 28 2011 06:57 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 04:23 Eiii wrote:
On April 28 2011 00:18 Ace wrote:
So the top players that the Detective should check tonight: myself, GM, Jackal and Mr.Wiggles. We are the players that were mentioned the most as players that would be picked to contact.


I still have no clue what the point of this was. You know the gf doesn't get to pick his scumbuddies, right? Is this some kind of metagaming thing where you're trying to figure out who would be most likely to be picked, or are you gf and do you know something about how the scum side works that we don't?

Ooooor was the point to just assign a unique keyword to a set of players to make communication easier?


Yes we know that. The point is that if you see players in the thread change their behaviors toward one another or start typing those unique keywords then there's a chance for secret communication. Did you read my entire post?


That's a given, everyone should have known from the start that when a player mysteriously does a 180 (or less even!) overnight it's something to be looked at.

You didn't answer why DT checks should be directed at those who were basically voted to be a scum dream team. I still don't understand why this tally has any influence whatsoever as to who looks scummy or not.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
April 27 2011 22:39 GMT
#390
Also, my activity tomorrow should probably increase as I just finished my last three exams over the last couple days and don't need to study anymore.

Just a thought too, as the game progresses, scum are going to become a lot more coherent. They still won't have the ability to PM each other or communicate during the day though, but they will know who each other are, and who the Cell Leader is.

What I think this means, is that starting Day 2, we need to be on the lookout for people pushing plans early and other people supporting it early. Scum can't communicate throughout the day, so the Cell leader will probably plan something in a PM during the morning, or else one scum member will push for a plan early on and hope to get the others to support him. Scum need to make their move earlier than later, and will be the most organized right as the day is beginning. As new developments pop up, scum won't be able to deal with them as a team, and will act a lot more fragmented. As such, the more town can pull together and blindside scum better, as they won't be able to actively deal with it as a team.

So look for scummy people jumping to support plans early on, and look for things that look like odd amounts of organization. Also, when new game-changing information pops up, look for people who start to act differently than they were, or who don't seem to react to it and stay stuck in what they were doing before. I think this can show us scum who are freaking out because there's no communication with their team, or scum who don't know what to do because they have no one to direct them.
you gotta dance
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 27 2011 22:41 GMT
#391
On April 28 2011 07:28 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 06:57 Ace wrote:
On April 28 2011 04:23 Eiii wrote:
On April 28 2011 00:18 Ace wrote:
So the top players that the Detective should check tonight: myself, GM, Jackal and Mr.Wiggles. We are the players that were mentioned the most as players that would be picked to contact.


I still have no clue what the point of this was. You know the gf doesn't get to pick his scumbuddies, right? Is this some kind of metagaming thing where you're trying to figure out who would be most likely to be picked, or are you gf and do you know something about how the scum side works that we don't?

Ooooor was the point to just assign a unique keyword to a set of players to make communication easier?


Yes we know that. The point is that if you see players in the thread change their behaviors toward one another or start typing those unique keywords then there's a chance for secret communication. Did you read my entire post?


That's a given, everyone should have known from the start that when a player mysteriously does a 180 (or less even!) overnight it's something to be looked at.

You didn't answer why DT checks should be directed at those who were basically voted to be a scum dream team. I still don't understand why this tally has any influence whatsoever as to who looks scummy or not.


Those players should be DT checked because most of the players picked them for a Scum dream team like you said . If these are the most active players and everyone acknowledges them for good Scum play then surely they should be scrutinized.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
April 27 2011 22:48 GMT
#392
My scum play so far has just involved never being fingered as scum :p
you gotta dance
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 27 2011 22:50 GMT
#393
On April 28 2011 07:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
My scum play so far has just involved never being fingered as scum :p


I'll fix that, from now on, day 1 you'll get an analysis definitely proving your scummy nature, even if you aren't in that game
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 23:00 GMT
#394
On April 28 2011 06:28 bumatlarge wrote:
Wow this is confusing, but I think I got the basic gist of the mechanics. Ace, wouldnt the name game be kinda helpful for CL to make a list and be able to point out multiple persons without naming names? And jackal is the traffic thing a breadcrumb lol? I've been reading through thread keeping my eyes open for non-thread related stuff just in case, and you spend a nice chunk on discussing traffic lol...

Kinda suspicious of Ace to what he is suggesting and how it helps town. Jackal next because of the traffic, and I haven't read into anyone else, except tnkted, who will just sit in a corner sprinkling his little crumbs everywhere. Aren't we supposed to try to prevent everyone from being able to breadcrumb, not give them the best opportunities to do so?

Maybe I missed key stuff, but I don't really have much time for a full analysis yet. I'm stuck in traffic

It took me a minute to figure out what you were referring to. My ride home last night was brutal. It was back to the norm tonight. Just long.
Life can only kill you once.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 27 2011 23:02 GMT
#395
On April 28 2011 08:00 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 06:28 bumatlarge wrote:
Wow this is confusing, but I think I got the basic gist of the mechanics. Ace, wouldnt the name game be kinda helpful for CL to make a list and be able to point out multiple persons without naming names? And jackal is the traffic thing a breadcrumb lol? I've been reading through thread keeping my eyes open for non-thread related stuff just in case, and you spend a nice chunk on discussing traffic lol...

Kinda suspicious of Ace to what he is suggesting and how it helps town. Jackal next because of the traffic, and I haven't read into anyone else, except tnkted, who will just sit in a corner sprinkling his little crumbs everywhere. Aren't we supposed to try to prevent everyone from being able to breadcrumb, not give them the best opportunities to do so?

Maybe I missed key stuff, but I don't really have much time for a full analysis yet. I'm stuck in traffic

It took me a minute to figure out what you were referring to. My ride home last night was brutal. It was back to the norm tonight. Just long.


I'll be moving to lynch the next person to refer to traffic, ride, or any driving terms, hell any non-mafia conversations will be suspicious! this isn't your personal blogs section, whatever some people may have believed in the past

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 23:26 GMT
#396
On April 28 2011 08:02 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 08:00 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 28 2011 06:28 bumatlarge wrote:
Wow this is confusing, but I think I got the basic gist of the mechanics. Ace, wouldnt the name game be kinda helpful for CL to make a list and be able to point out multiple persons without naming names? And jackal is the traffic thing a breadcrumb lol? I've been reading through thread keeping my eyes open for non-thread related stuff just in case, and you spend a nice chunk on discussing traffic lol...

Kinda suspicious of Ace to what he is suggesting and how it helps town. Jackal next because of the traffic, and I haven't read into anyone else, except tnkted, who will just sit in a corner sprinkling his little crumbs everywhere. Aren't we supposed to try to prevent everyone from being able to breadcrumb, not give them the best opportunities to do so?

Maybe I missed key stuff, but I don't really have much time for a full analysis yet. I'm stuck in traffic

It took me a minute to figure out what you were referring to. My ride home last night was brutal. It was back to the norm tonight. Just long.


I'll be moving to lynch the next person to refer to traffic, ride, or any driving terms, hell any non-mafia conversations will be suspicious! this isn't your personal blogs section, whatever some people may have believed in the past


I only mentioned it to put my thought process into context.
Life can only kill you once.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
April 27 2011 23:35 GMT
#397
@Ace: It gives them more oppurtunities to clue in sleepers, if they are only chosen on one list. Then CL could simply say "uronmylist" and person would immediately know. There may be better ways, but we might as well not give them that more then they need with those lists. I don't think you have anyone unique on your list, so I can't really accuse you of anything there.

Also, Im not following exactly how this benefits us?
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 28 2011 00:48 GMT
#398
About 3 hours left till the end of NIGHT, please be sure to PM both me and iGrok your night actions
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
April 28 2011 04:00 GMT
#399
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 28 2011 04:00 GMT
#400
On April 28 2011 13:00 GMarshal wrote:
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