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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:08 GMT
#301
Can we get some people to switch to sandroba please, misder is very unlikely to flip scum.
Computer says mafia
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 03 2012 01:08 GMT
#302
A correction: Voting ends at 12:00 KST, in two hours.
you gotta dance
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#303
I'm having some major issues with my ISP right now (interent has been down for over an hour). Just in case I don't get back online in time I'm just setting a place holder vote.

Vote: No Lynch
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 03 2012 01:17 GMT
#304
There are no No Lynches, you may only vote for other players, or yourself.
you gotta dance
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
March 03 2012 01:18 GMT
#305
Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in this thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote Qatol. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses).
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2012 01:22 GMT
#306
##Unvote

##Vote Sandroba


I'll give a longer(ish) post later, before the day ends. I'm leaving work now and want to make sure that if I get stuck in traffic or anything at least this gets in.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
March 03 2012 01:24 GMT
#307
I gotta go now, cant make it for deadline.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#308
Palmar, I see nothing in sandroba's filter that is jumping out at me as him being an obvious scum, if you take away the sandroba name.

Hes posted very little, but the same can be said for several other players, myself included.

Who is your next best scum read?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
March 03 2012 01:26 GMT
#309
I urge everyone to look over my analysis of the Toast, and realize that he has played mafia the entire game. I urge you to take a reread through the thread (not the filter [/b], and realize where he has said things and at what time.

The beginning:
Played apologetically(note this is how Ver caught Misder in his guide ), played defensively, cautiously. This is what new mafia do.

Note the stuff he's said, like "thats all i was saying" and the general "im sorry" mood.

The middle:
I post an analysis of him and he reacts STRONGLY. Despite not having actually contributed to the thread before or since , whenever he gets accused he happens to be passionate. More than that, notice that anytime hes accused he reacts. Like when Sandroba posted that one liner, or I quoted the vote thing(which wasn't even an accusation.) He treated it like one, because that was in his mindset. Mafia will be afraid of getting caught, so they view everything in perspective of making sure they appear town.

Not only that, but his whole "damm pandain you have horrible arguments and are acting scum" and "but your still not good enough to vote" are pretty ironic considering the strength of his accusations of me.

No one else is more suspicious. The votes on Misder are suspicious( no reason Jackal, poor reason Jackal, and then decondou is ok).

Palmar is not a good vote. while he is definitely suspicious, we should not lynch a vet day 1 just because he hasn't played 100% pro townish. I think we need to examine him more later, when we have more evidence. I feel there's just not enough on him.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#310
you Adam4167

also, if I'm scum you lynch me, vet or not it's bad logic to let vets get away with shit.
Computer says mafia
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 03 2012 01:33 GMT
#311
On March 03 2012 10:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
There are no No Lynches, you may only vote for other players, or yourself.


Sorry.

##Vote: TheToast

+ Show Spoiler +

The issue appears resolved, but I was having problems when I re-enabled windows firewall; also same deal with my router... Either way I think I've almost got it fixed
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#312
Then build your case. You have more experience with my town play then anyone else in this game, so if you think this isn't it, do something about it.

I can tell you that you're wrong, since I'm town, but I have nothing to hide.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#313
I can only lynch one person today, and I think sandroba has a much higher chance of flipping scum than you. Hell, he isn't even trying to deflect the lynch off of him.
Computer says mafia
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 02:10:37
March 03 2012 02:05 GMT
#314

Current Vote Count:
Ties are ordered Chronologically due to Voting Rules

Misder - 3
deconduo
A Killer Cuppa Tea
Jackal58

Sandroba - 3
Palmar
Probulous
Snarfs

TheToast - 3
Pandain
Sandroba
TheToast

Palmar - 2
Paperscraps
Adam4167

deconduo - 1
Misder
Paperscraps

Pandain - 1
Sandroba
rgTheSchworz

rgTheSchworz - 1
Bluelightz

Probulous - 0
rgTheSchworz

A Killer Cuppa Tea - 0
Probulous

Paperscraps - 0
Bluelightz
Snarfs



If there is a mistake, please let me know!
There is less than 1 hour until voting ends.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
March 03 2012 02:11 GMT
#315
Adam I am not sheeping Palmar. You hadn't produced anything of note until recently. Sandrona is actively lurking and seemingly has no interest in this game. When he is town he has shown skill in putting together decent cases. He isn't even bothering to try this game. He played like this L where he was scum. Add those together and you get mafia.

My vote stands. I am heading to the wedding now. The cases against Paper and Decon are terrible. Misder is a maybe. Toast looks town to me. Palmar has some interesting points and his reads aligned with mine, I won't be voting for him today.

From phone.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
March 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#316
+ Show Spoiler +
alright, pretty sure the wireless router is dead, but I think I'm good for right now
'

Right now Pandain is looking awful scumish to me. He caught my attention with this post again Probulous early in the game:

On March 01 2012 12:57 Pandain wrote:
That took a long time to post. Are you hiding something?


It was weird and out of place at the time. Both Probulous and sandro called him out on it and he completely ignored them. He has yet to respond to their accusations. Instead he comes back at me with accusations that I'm scum because I've been too nice this game, based off the one other full game of Mafia I've played.

His accusations have just gotten weirder from there:


Contrast this tone with the others. Looks like hes trying hard to make a good point(with italics + bolding and shit). Not only that but while writing this post he researched other players(shown by his accusations of me, saying how I had 4 posts, noting my play).


Apparently I'm scum because I bold things. wut? I've gone into why these couple of posts are complete BS in my previous posts, so I will refrain from repeating myself here.

These two posts were really what convinced me though:

Also anyone who realizes about what Palmar is should note the same for Toast

On March 03 2012 06:46 Pandain wrote:
I didn't call him scum. Anyone who understands will understand, I willl not go into more detail.


Given his accusations against me, he's basically making a scum claim against Palmar; then comes back and says he won't elaborate on that. To me, Palmar is reading townish right now. I have no idea where Pandain got this from and since he refuses to elaborate, I can only assume that he's decided to setup one of the most veteran scum hunters in this game for a day 2 lynch.

I think even if most of us though Palmar was scum, no one is going to support his lynch Day 1. So what's the next best thing for scum to do? Yup, set him up for the day 2 lynch. This reads completely scummy to me.

##Unvote
##Vote: Pandain
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 03 2012 03:00 GMT
#317
Voting is now over, Misder is to be lynched
you gotta dance
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
March 03 2012 03:01 GMT
#318
Why Sandroba:

First off, I didn't like Sandroba's vote on Pandain that early in the day with such terrible reasoning. To paraphrase: "I notice subtleties, that's how I hunt scum". If that's the case, why don't you point out the subtleties for me? I wouldn't be offended.

Second, as Probulous mentioned, he doesn't seem to care. This is a stark contrast to previous games I've looked through where he is town.

Finally, I will put my trust in some of the more experienced members of this game, especially when it adds up with other things I'm noticing. If Palmar says someone is scum and I have a scummy feeling about them, vs if someone else says someone is scum and I have a scummy feeling about them, it's going to weigh differently and I don't see any point in denying it. That being said, I also have to be more wary of people like Palmar because I am putting a little more faith in them.

Anyways, it's 7:00 now so should see the results before I post more....
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 03 2012 03:05 GMT
#319
Night 1: A Messy Start
[image loading]

"So, this is one of them, you say?" Captain Wiggles asked, looking down at Misder, who had been forced to his knees between his two captors.

"Aye, Cap'n, we caught 'im snoopin' around near your quarters, acting suspicious-like. So we ask 'im what 'e was doing down there, and 'e say 'e was just lookin'", the sailor spat onto the ground, "Bah, like we would believe somethin' like that, there ain't no reason to be where 'e was, so we brought 'im straight 'ere, to you.".

Captain Wiggles scrutinized Misder closely, but received no reaction besides a blank stare. He sighed, "Well, if that's how you want to do things..."

With those words, Captain Wiggles quickly pulled out his pistol and shot Misder through the heart. The two men holding Misder jumped back from the corpse, and stared at the Captain with a mix of suprise and fear as the body toppled over sideways onto the deck.

Captain Wiggles paid no attention to the two men, but was instead staring at the green blood pooling from the body onto the planks beneath it with a look of disgust on his face.

"Well, it looks as if you haven't done your jobs properly, doesn't it?"

"We're sorry, Cap'n, we swear we thought 'e was one of them mutineers!"

Now the Captain turned his back on the two men, "Just clean this mess up, and make sure it doesn't happen again.".

Misder the Townie has been lynched!


Night 1 has now begun. Day 2 will begin at 11:00 KST, 23 hours from now. Please remember to submit all actions to myself and Mattchew before then.
you gotta dance
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 03 2012 04:46 GMT
#320
You have got to be shitting me. 3 votes? Really? 3 fucking votes? And nobody has posted since the fucking flip?
You have got to be fucking shitting me.
Life can only kill you once.
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