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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Why do you guys think Decon is scummy? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 02 2012 12:27 Misder wrote: I'm glad I'm under fire. This whole thing that I'm spouting one-liners thing is pretty messed up. There is nothing wrong with saying what my opinions are on policy lynches. It's not like I push that we should implement Lynch all Liars, but rather that it really is a good policy and I'm going to vote based on that policy. (I also find it cute that deconduo called me a vet) Anyways, Paperscraps is town. Probulous is town. Bluelightz is town. Snarfs is town. Palmar is town. A Killer Cuppa Tea is town. Pandain leaning town. rgTheSchworz is null. Adam is leaning scum. Sandroba is leaning scum. ##Vote: deconduo His reason for voting for me was because he disagreed that LaL should be a policy. I don't know why his reads are the opposites of my reads (namely, Paperscraps and Probulous). I'm missing some people because I missed them when I did my first impressions sheet/I wasn't paying enough attention to everyone/nothing stood out from anyone else. I love when people OMGUS, it means I'm probably right about them. Also I voted for you because you posted 3 one liners about LAL and then disappeared. You come back with a list of reads with no explanation behind them, OMGUS me and then disappear again. You haven't made a single worthwhile post. You haven't done any analysis. This is typical mafia behaviour. On March 02 2012 17:07 Paperscraps wrote: Question do we know how many scum there are in the game? My scum reads so far. Jackal - Has posted nothing of substance. He also agrees with Deconduo who is scum Deconduo - His reaction to me calling him scum was pretty bad, telling me I slipped, when I just disagreed. TheToast - Very defensive, diplomatic and not scum hunting at all. ##Vote: Deconduo I messed up the format last time. ![[image loading]](http://b-static.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) Please explain how could you know my reads were bad if you are town? We lynch Misder today and Paper tomorrow. I had a look at Pandain's filter and its nothing as bad as these two. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On March 03 2012 01:59 Mattchew wrote: Current Vote Count: Paindain -1 Sandroba TheToast - 1 Paindain ... | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
You realize you voted for me AFTER sandro voted you, right? So what exactly are you trying to say here? Why are you even quoting this? What's the point here? | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
Paindain | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On March 03 2012 04:44 TheToast wrote: You realize you voted for me AFTER sandro voted you, right? So what exactly are you trying to say here? Why are you even quoting this? What's the point here? His name is spelled wrong. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I will update Vote Count with 2 hours to lynch aka in a little over 5 hours | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
Oh, I missed that. All I saw was sandro switch his vote to me and suddenly Pandain is quoting both of their votes. >.> | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On March 03 2012 05:05 sandroba wrote: Hey toast your explanation of why I can't be scum reeks of extreme bs what can you say about that? Are you trying to discourage me from arguing against you as scum? Sandro, you've got only got 12 posts this game, clearly you've been lurking. You've made only one piss poor attempt at analysis, every other post you have made so far has been a short bit of weird fluff. It's glaringly clear you're not a vanilla townie this game. Idk what you rolled, but SK makes the most sense to me right now. It explains the lurker, and explains the abundance of fluff--even scum would be attempting to steer the game in some direction. If you can come up with something that explains your behavior this game, I'm all ears. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 02 2012 19:59 Probulous wrote: Jackal given you said this in Mafia L Would you shoot Sandroba if you had a gun this game. Jackal, maybe you missed this. Please can you respond. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 02 2012 12:33 Probulous wrote: "His reason for voting for me was because he disagreed that LaL should be a policy. I don't know why his reads are the opposites of my reads (namely, Paperscraps and Probulous)." People really are not being clear in this game. Misder, please can you clarify your reason for voting for decon? My understanding is that his reads are bad and his reason for voting for you was your position on LAL. Is that correct? Misder, please respond to my question. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Jackal is making himself hard to read. As above I disagree with paper but agree with Misder. He's lurking but that seems to be his usual day 1 play. Pandain seems towny to me. His case on toast helped clarify toast's alignment to me. Adam needs to post something of substance. His only game as scum (that I remember) he lurked all game long. Sandroba, you're not helping yourself. The quote from Jackal in L corresponds very well to your current play. This is why I want Jackal's opinion. He shot you then, would he shoot you now? Toast is right to call you out for lack of contribution. Your response enforces his case. ##vote Sandroba | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On March 02 2012 09:54 Probulous wrote: Well for one he has been pretty consistent. Then he got indignant when I was needling him. I admit that my reading of his accusation was weak, I was really just seeking clarity around what he meant by "sidetracked" but he got flustered. To me this reads like someone trying to avoid a stupid argument. Given that was what he was trying to do from the start, it looks townie. Finally his response to your case is clear frustation. He isn't scared or submissive but rather frustrated that he can't seem to establish his innocence. It would have been much easier for him to target someone else but instead he attempts to clarify his position. His point about you quoting me looks like sarcasm. All in all it doesn't read as scum to me. He was consistent because he had to explain himself. All the posts were related to you calling him out(unjustly). And just because he's consistent doesn't mean he's not scum. I look at all those posts in a different perspective. The apologetic mood(refer to Ver's analysis of Misder in "How to Improve", the strong reaction to being accused, and the lack of any contribution to town(all he's done is defend himself) is very suspicious to me. I feel the suspicions against Misder are weak. The real suspicious thing hes done is his latest post, where he just posted a list with no substance, but people seem to focus on his earlier posts, which took place at the very beginning of the game. I don't think there's a better case on Misder then there is Toast. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 03 2012 06:07 Pandain wrote: He was consistent because he had to explain himself. All the posts were related to you calling him out(unjustly). And just because he's consistent doesn't mean he's not scum. I look at all those posts in a different perspective. The apologetic mood(refer to Ver's analysis of Misder in "How to Improve", the strong reaction to being accused, and the lack of any contribution to town(all he's done is defend himself) is very suspicious to me. I feel the suspicions against Misder are weak. The real suspicious thing hes done is his latest post, where he just posted a list with no substance, but people seem to focus on his earlier posts, which took place at the very beginning of the game. I don't think there's a better case on Misder then there is Toast. Toast has since changed his position. He has correctly pointed out Sandroba's lurking and has been the most forceful in defending me. Now he could be scum, but if he keeps playing like this I don't mind keeping him around. I think you are focused on his early play. His play since then has been better than most. Misder however when called out responded with a terrible list of towny people and voted decon for reasons that still don't make sense to me. He then disappeared. The attitude is completely different. One of them has clearly tried to better the other hasn't. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
How do you know what is correct? "They have correctly identified me as town", mafia do that all the time. In fact one of the best ways to gain town cred as mafia is to say "yeah this guy is innocent" when he's getting lynched. And his latest play is suspicious. The harsh reaction to Sandroba's bad vote reasoning, as well as to my quote of the above material, hes playing like he's mafia. Misder's made one crappy post and now people are lynching him. And personally, there is more reason for the mafia to try to get better than for a bored townie. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On March 03 2012 06:20 Pandain wrote: Stop saying stuff like "correctly"... "correctly..." How do you know what is correct? "They have correctly identified me as town", mafia do that all the time. In fact one of the best ways to gain town cred as mafia is to say "yeah this guy is innocent" when he's getting lynched. And his latest play is suspicious. The harsh reaction to Sandroba's bad vote reasoning, as well as to my quote of the above material, hes playing like he's mafia. Misder's made one crappy post and now people are lynching him. And personally, there is more reason for the mafia to try to get better than for a bored townie. He could be town or he could be mafia. Right now he is doing things I agree with. Why would I lynch him? You are right in that I could be wrong but so could you. I think Sandroba is scum, he is pushing Sandroba. Either he is bussing his team-mate (unlikely day 1 but could be true) or he is town with a correct read. From what I read he is making an effort to improve. You are right in that scum can do that as well, but if they do they become clearer to read. They make their views more apparent and ultimately become easier to catch. Toast may be scum but I will not be voting for him today unless something drastic happens in the next few hours. | ||
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