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On January 21 2014 12:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hapapapapaaaaaa I'm here no questions? Nothing?
I'm voting for someone you know, no thoughts about that? Just my one-liner machine-gun-like posting style isn't palatable? I mean, call an apple an apple friend.
So you're voting Prome, yet you claim there's nothing worth saying.
But since you ask for questions... how serious is your vote on Prome on a scale from 1-10 (1 being trolly, 10 being sooper srs)?
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Right now it's a 10 because there's not much else going on. When some other stuff happens ask me again, but I found it suspicious and I like where my vote is.
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On January 21 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for Prome because he immediately asked you a question about me that applied to Wave equally, and then made up some nonsense reasoning as to why it applied to me but not Wave. That's not odd to you?
Not particularly. What's more odd to me is how unwilling you've been to pursue this scumread on Prome despite how active he's been in the thread the past few hours.
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Meta. External factors that have split my attention. I'm here, now, doing it, so what's the problem?
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On January 21 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for Prome because he immediately asked you a question about me that applied to Wave equally, and then made up some nonsense reasoning as to why it applied to me but not Wave. That's not odd to you? Not particularly. What's more odd to me is how unwilling you've been to pursue this scumread on Prome despite how active he's been in the thread the past few hours.
Like, you're entirely skirting around me trying to discuss this with you, while accusing me of not discussing it. Is anyone else seeing this?
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On January 21 2014 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meta. External factors that have split my attention. I'm here, now, doing it, so what's the problem?
Awesome. The problem is that I just don't understand your case. You're voting him for being "illogical" in your view. How is him being illogical scummy as opposed to simply illogical.
Anyway, all you need to know about my stance on Prome is that I thought his entrance and attitude was very townie.
Honestly VE, there's not much you can say to defend yourself from my suspicions. The only way you can defend yourself from posting no content is to... well... post content. I'll judge whether my vote is in the right place based on how you contribute over the next ~40 hours.
On January 21 2014 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:On January 21 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for Prome because he immediately asked you a question about me that applied to Wave equally, and then made up some nonsense reasoning as to why it applied to me but not Wave. That's not odd to you? Not particularly. What's more odd to me is how unwilling you've been to pursue this scumread on Prome despite how active he's been in the thread the past few hours. Like, you're entirely skirting around me trying to discuss this with you, while accusing me of not discussing it. Is anyone else seeing this?
What's there for me to say? Prome gave reasons for the difference, and I find them logical/believable. You do not. It's on you to prove that his reasons are inadequate.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 21 2014 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:On January 21 2014 13:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for Prome because he immediately asked you a question about me that applied to Wave equally, and then made up some nonsense reasoning as to why it applied to me but not Wave. That's not odd to you? Not particularly. What's more odd to me is how unwilling you've been to pursue this scumread on Prome despite how active he's been in the thread the past few hours. Like, you're entirely skirting around me trying to discuss this with you, while accusing me of not discussing it. Is anyone else seeing this?
I'm probably closer to a 2 on Prom than a 10 right now based on your reasoning.
Do you think Hapa is mafia for the way he is attacking you?
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I think if he's town he's biased and it's bullshit to be so biased already, but whatever. It makes him more likely to be scum to me, but no, I'm reading him as town presently.
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It's just one of those things that may or may not end up adding up to something. Prome's thing is worse to me because he literally made up reasoning to respond to me. It doesn't make any sense to me at all. Fluffy? What does that even mean?
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The problem I have with your case on Prom right now is that it seems like a troll vote that you're trying to justify retroactively.
You first vote him based on this...
On January 21 2014 11:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 11:41 Promethelax wrote:
I have but you guys had to go and produce actual content while I was bitching about having no content. Stellar start to the game, eh?
In all honesty everyone is suspicious given how little content came about in the time when I couldn't post (couldn't = had to eat sushi with the girlfriend) the fact that the vettiest vets in vetland couldn't figure out how to start a game of mafia gives me the willys. Okay okay okay. So let me get this straight. EVERYONE is suspicious..because we started the game...without you? ##Unvote
##Vote PromethelaxOMGUSM (OMGUS MORE)
...which hardly seems serious.
On January 21 2014 11:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
COUNTERQUESTION PROMETHELAX! WHY HAPAHAULI AND NOT VE, WHO POSTED THE FUCKING POST IN QUESTION?!?!?!?!?
Then a counterquestion, to which Prome replied...
On January 21 2014 11:52 Promethelax wrote:
WoS had a question that feels curious, in my experience curious people are more often town than scum. VE felt fluffy. WoS felt curious.
Reasonable? No.
True? Yes.
Often accurate? Yes.
...to which you haven't addressed, and here we are talking about how your read is a 10/10.
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On January 21 2014 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think if he's town he's biased and it's bullshit to be so biased already, but whatever. It makes him more likely to be scum to me, but no, I'm reading him as town presently.
I don't follow. My pressure on you is scummy, but you're reading me as town?
On January 21 2014 13:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's just one of those things that may or may not end up adding up to something. Prome's thing is worse to me because he literally made up reasoning to respond to me. It doesn't make any sense to me at all. Fluffy? What does that even mean?
I'll leave it to Prome to back up his arguments. I'm suspicious of you for other reasons that I've stated.
Regardless, what about Prome's arguments are malicious, as opposed to just being a stupid argument?
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 21 2014 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
VE: no, everyone is suspicious because you guys had the chance to start without me but did not start. Hello posts are nothing and nothing was done. For like four hours.
You say that everyone is suspicious for not getting things rolling, yet later decide it's worth defending marv that he is willing to take a back seat role at the start.
Do you think VE is the type of player that engages in serious discussion from the start?
On January 21 2014 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think if he's town he's biased and it's bullshit to be so biased already, but whatever.
This seems like an overreaction to me. There is very little to get upset about this early on. Generally this tends to be a mafia trait, but I'm willing to reconsider since it's VE.
On January 21 2014 12:56 gonzaw wrote:
Skimmed fast and saw no Foo'
He's obvious scum.
Let's lynch him once I wake up....maybe
Agreed.
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Here's my problem with Promethelax in full.
Some stuff had happened up to the point Prom had made his entrance post. It had NO content whatsoever, BUT I'LL LET THAT SLIDE.
When confronted about this fact, rather than say he had nothing to say, NO suspicions, he said he was suspicious of EVERYONE. Why? We can't all be scum right? He's obviously NOT suspicious of everyone regardless of his alignment. My problem was with his tone of defensiveness. It's not "I'm not suspicious of anyone because nothing has happened yet" it's "I'm suspicious of EVERYONE so you can't say I'm not contributing!" THAT was the reasoning for my vote.
Then he goes on to ask you Hapa about one of my posts. Some bullshit about it being fluffy, I don't really know what his problem with it ultimately was...but the thing is that WoS had posted something extremely similar in the post EXACTLY above mine. So why am I scum rather than WoS?
On January 21 2014 11:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
As far as I can tell, he doesn't respond to pressure on himself this early so it wouldn't matter.
I only offered that as an aside anyway, my main reason for not wanting to vote him is because I literally don't see one.
Hapa, do you see yourself getting shot N1 in this game?
On January 21 2014 11:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
If we're talking meta, pressure won't mean anything to sandroba. He'll either play or he won't, and if he's town he'll probably find some scum. People like kita voting for him as a joke will probably not pressure him as much as you seem to think.
You asked a question, and we both answered. But look at the language Wave uses versus mine...I've bolded what I think is an apologetic tone, like he feels bad even for entering discussion. And goes on to ask a completely irrelevant question of Hapa...I mean, I'm not sure exactly "fluffy" means as it pertains to finding scum, but Wave's post seems to fit the bill more than mine does in this particular instance as far as I can see. But this was Prome's response to the "why" of it:
On January 21 2014 11:52 Promethelax wrote:
WoS had a question that feels curious, in my experience curious people are more often town than scum. VE felt fluffy. WoS felt curious.
Reasonable? No.
True? Yes.
Often accurate? Yes.
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Let me know if any of this is unreasonable and I'll just stop - but I'm perturbed that I'm AGAIN the first SERIOUS scum candidate in a veteran game and I'm sick of this shit.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 21 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.
One of these days I will have another scumgame; it seems that day is not today.
Holy! Where you at? I've never played a non-voice game with you before. Let's do something.
This game just got a whole lot easier.
##Vote: WaveOfShadow
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On January 21 2014 12:44 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 12:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 21 2014 12:36 kitaman27 wrote:On January 21 2014 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On January 21 2014 12:16 kitaman27 wrote:...The reason to random vote sandroba is because he is incredibly lazy and notorious for getting away without posting on day one. Well... why wouldn't you post this before? Regardless, several players have mentioned that sandroba isn't going to respond to pressure anyway, so I don't see the point here. I wanted to see whether you thought that I was pushing sandroba based on his first post or not. Regardless of whether or not sandroba will react to having votes on him, I still think the best way to start off a game is to place votes early on 1-2 targets. If we're discussing players that have recently posted, I'm not really interested in joining you on VE. Would you be willing to support a Wave bandwagon? I find very few of his questions relevant thus far. I don't see what he is looking for. Wave, would you like to explain your approach to the first few hours of the game? I get a feel for reads through conversation. My questions to Hapa/Prome are to try and get a feel for them while creating conversation at the same time. When I'm curious about something or something strikes me odd, I mention it. I'm not sure why that isn't obvious to you. So what's your feeling of myself and Prome as of now? Any other reads worth mentioning?
Only preliminary reads I really have are those who have been actively participating in the thread.
I have VE as my strongest townread atm, which I believe I have mentioned before (or at least hinted towards).
Hapa I have you as slight town because your entrance and play thus far is consistent with how I remember you from that one game where I smurfed as Gravityman, though I remain wary here because I am not the best meta-user around. Your lines of questioning appear pretty towny as well so even without meta you keep the cursory townread.
I have Prome as null atm for a combination of things that VE is also on him about (though the difference may be I don;'t find him scummy necessarily)---his entrance seems way too weird, attention-grabby and most of all forced to be something scum would attempt, but then again I'm not a big fan of the content nor his seemingly baseless townread of me.
Is there anything else anyone wants before I'm off to bed? I won't be around for much of tomorrow but I will return in the evening.
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On January 21 2014 15:41 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.
One of these days I will have another scumgame; it seems that day is not today.
Holy! Where you at? I've never played a non-voice game with you before. Let's do something.
This game just got a whole lot easier. ##Vote: WaveOfShadow
o.O
Welp, don't know what to make of that, so I'ma ignore it for now.
Welcome to the game Foolishness?
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 21 2014 15:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 15:41 Foolishness wrote:On January 21 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.
One of these days I will have another scumgame; it seems that day is not today.
Holy! Where you at? I've never played a non-voice game with you before. Let's do something.
This game just got a whole lot easier. ##Vote: WaveOfShadow o.O Welp, don't know what to make of that, so I'ma ignore it for now. Welcome to the game Foolishness?
Wait.
Wait.
If you are going to ignore it, why did you respond to it?
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On January 21 2014 15:45 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 15:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 21 2014 15:41 Foolishness wrote:On January 21 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Welp, gonna go with my usual opener.
I think the only difference here is for the first time I'm actually relieved to roll town. I'd be pretty terrified to go up against this town as scum.
One of these days I will have another scumgame; it seems that day is not today.
Holy! Where you at? I've never played a non-voice game with you before. Let's do something.
This game just got a whole lot easier. ##Vote: WaveOfShadow o.O Welp, don't know what to make of that, so I'ma ignore it for now. Welcome to the game Foolishness? Wait. Wait. If you are going to ignore it, why did you respond to it?
Because I'm responding to you, having just entered the game, and being polite.
If you're not going to provide reasoning for your vote, I have no way or reason to discuss it.
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So Foolish, do you think I'm making mountains of molehills? I've garnered two votes already, and since you didn't vote for me I'm left thinking that you must just disagree with my points?
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