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I took a look at Smith, I'm sure he's town.
1) He was the third to vote for DrT and his timing was shortly after the second vote. Tom said he only came in after it looked like DrT was going to get lynched. I disagree and wonder why Tom doesn't apply that argument to someone like HartnellWill, I see no reason to mention that argument against Smith but not against HW who looks much worse.
2) He gave out two early townreads which look reliable and town motivated
3) When he voted for DrT he also mentioned Eccleston as his other scumread, but he didn't try to push that wagon since then. Instead he kept fueling the DrT wagon. I see no reason for scum to bus a guy and mention another scumread if you don't have the intention to try to sway people to the latter. Eccleston wasn't much at danger of getting lynched either, and Smith ignored the PT wagon, he simply asked PT a few questions.
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you're right, I must have misremembered. It's still rather odd, but not quite as odd as I remembered.
I do think HW is scummy. I just haven't read into him all that much.
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On June 02 2013 04:12 TomB4 wrote:
Actually I wasn't really that willing to defend DrT, I only did it because I was annoyed at how bad the arguments were against him. They're still bad, regardless of the result being correct. The only real reason we got that lynch through was because the scum (whoever they are) were incapable of deflecting those arguments. If I were in the shoes of DrT I know for a fact I would put up a much better fight than that. I even said a very similar thing regarding DrT:
So mad cause bad lol.
Arguments aren't bad just because they go over your head buddy.
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Also, I'm starting a McCoy fanclub.
Anyone wishing to join can type in the thread:
##McCoy for President
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On June 02 2013 05:38 Baker1986 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2013 04:12 TomB4 wrote:
Actually I wasn't really that willing to defend DrT, I only did it because I was annoyed at how bad the arguments were against him. They're still bad, regardless of the result being correct. The only real reason we got that lynch through was because the scum (whoever they are) were incapable of deflecting those arguments. If I were in the shoes of DrT I know for a fact I would put up a much better fight than that. I even said a very similar thing regarding DrT:
So mad cause bad lol. Arguments aren't bad just because they go over your head buddy.
Most of the arguments that were used could easily have been used to lynch a townie. It's happened before.
The strongest indicator he was scum was the contradiction in how he said he likes to play and his actual play though, and that wasn't apparent until after I pointed out everything I disagreed with, because it takes time to tell that someone has actually given up.
Anyway, I don't have a problem being called bad if I'm wrong. Just realize that if this same logic is going to lead you to lynch me then you should question it after I flip.
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Hey bro you're mentioning your lynch and how your flip will be town and how you don't care being called bad so often it almost reminds me of DrT saying how he doesn't care that we want to lynch him and how he thrives in the spotlight and how cool he stays under pressure, he even froze off and died, that's how cool he stayed.
Deliver some more analysis on your scumspects pls, or at least agree with what others write, you're supposed to push the lynches you claim to want you know. A lot of the stuff we're talking about isn't really relevant for tomorrow's lynch and that is displeasing.
Why is JP town in your opinion? You said something about the tone of his posts, what does the little bird sound like in your head.
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On June 02 2013 06:17 TomB4 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2013 05:38 Baker1986 wrote:On June 02 2013 04:12 TomB4 wrote:
Actually I wasn't really that willing to defend DrT, I only did it because I was annoyed at how bad the arguments were against him. They're still bad, regardless of the result being correct. The only real reason we got that lynch through was because the scum (whoever they are) were incapable of deflecting those arguments. If I were in the shoes of DrT I know for a fact I would put up a much better fight than that. I even said a very similar thing regarding DrT:
So mad cause bad lol. Arguments aren't bad just because they go over your head buddy. Most of the arguments that were used could easily have been used to lynch a townie. It's happened before. The strongest indicator he was scum was the contradiction in how he said he likes to play and his actual play though, and that wasn't apparent until after I pointed out everything I disagreed with, because it takes time to tell that someone has actually given up. Anyway, I don't have a problem being called bad if I'm wrong. Just realize that if this same logic is going to lead you to lynch me then you should question it after I flip.
If you get lynched it'll be on entirely different reasons.
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On June 02 2013 06:52 SMcCoy wrote:
Deliver some more analysis on your scumspects pls, or at least agree with what others write, you're supposed to push the lynches you claim to want you know. A lot of the stuff we're talking about isn't really relevant for tomorrow's lynch and that is displeasing.
He's too afraid scum will shoot him! Or maybe they will know he suspects them and change their ways!
If I was scum I probably couldn't care less if Town-Tom thought I was scum.
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On June 01 2013 11:48 TomB4 wrote:
I'll be posting my reads in detail right before deadline.
I'm so excited I'm staying up for this.
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Day 2
Lynch is in 48 hours.
Good Luck.
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OH SHIT HE DIDN'T POST IT.
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On June 01 2013 19:08 TheDavison wrote:
McGann, I disagree, it was clear to me at least that DrT was going to be the lynch no matter what. Barely over the line is totally false.
I'll write up a full case on TB4 within this night phase. In all seriousness though that shouldn't be needed, he is scum.
If we take you at what you say and you feel TB4 is scum, then in your eyes the lynch went through with the bare minimum of town votes on it, being 7. This is Extended Majority Lynch and we needed 7 votes otherwise a no-lynch would have occurred. That's the definition of barely over the line.
On June 02 2013 04:34 TheDavison wrote:
Msmith looks townie as well, his push on DrT feels right. In fact the only thing I don't like about Smith, and the reason I just read his filter, is his screaming for the flip in the twilight zone. That is an easy scum tactic to make people think that you are excited and scared for the flip as a good townie should be. On rereading him though I think he was just excited and scared for the flip like a good townie.
Next up: Hwill
What is the point of this? "I think he's town, here's what he did that looks like scum, probably town." At best this is just a waffle read, at worst its dirt-throwing. You still have not given us your read on JPertwee. Giving us reads on two people that were on the right lynch yesterday (Msmith and HartnellWill) is pointless at this juncture.
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On June 01 2013 19:08 TheDavison wrote:
I'm not scum though TT.
I think we should look into H3 and TB4 most, those are the guys (TB4 more so) who were trying to puh counter wagons but ended up on the DrT wagon. That seems like the most likely place for scum to be in my mind, they would want to create a counter wagon on town and yet get the credit from a scum lynch.
TB4 still looks like scum to me, I don't like that no one tried to swing the lynch at all, I'd much prefer that we had a real possibility of a counter wagon to see where the votes ended up. With a tight race we'd have learned a lot more from a scum lynch. Ah well, it is what it is.
McGann, I disagree, it was clear to me at least that DrT was going to be the lynch no matter what. Barely over the line is totally false.
I'll write up a full case on TB4 within this night phase. In all seriousness though that shouldn't be needed, he is scum.
In addition to your JPertwee read that never materialised, you never came through on this full case on TB4, either.
What you have written about him so far is unconvincing to say the least. He was never trying to gain credit for the Dr Tennant lynch.
On June 01 2013 03:25 TheDavison wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 12:47 TomB4 wrote:
I can name at least two people who would make better lynches (whom I haven't already), but it's pretty pointless given that it looks to be a fruitless endeavour right now. It's better for me to sit on those reads and see how they develop without interference.
Troughton is still a better lynch than DrT and he still has enough votes to be a viable candidate. He's not responded at all to any of the votes he's received. In fact, he's still done nothing at all since his first two posts. This post is incredible. Not in a good way. If you as town genuinely think this we'll have words post game. I find it much more likely however that the first sentence of this post is a lie, either a stupid gambit or a scum trying to look like they have more to contribute than they do. I don't like how TB4 is trying to defend DrT from this lynch either, his arguments for DrT being town are non-existent while his attacks on Trout seem like he fell for a modified Kenpachi trap. The role playing did not disguise Trout's motives or reads it was simply flavour. But it was odd. And scum love to attack odd things since they cannot genuinely hunt scum. For the moment ##Unvote
##Vote: TomB4I'm curious to see what he has to say and the rest of you are getting DrT lynched already. Time for another wagon so that the day gets interesting.
The first part of your original case against him boils down to "I think this sentence is untruthful, I have no way to prove it".
The next part is criticizing his defence of DrTennant. If you think Tom and Dr.Tennant are both scum together, why would you not join the majority of people already lynching DrTennant. If they were both your scum reads, you should have been happy to see either one die to confirm your suspicions. Furthermore, if they're both scum as you put forward, what would splitting this lynch between two scum prove? All this does is run the risk of a no-lynch as townies tussle with two competing wagons, both of which are accurate.
You are not thinking like a townie and your original case is hollow. When pressed you deliver (questionable) town reads on people not in question and avoid commenting on the contentious ones.
##Vote: TheDavison
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I need to read in on Davison, but I avoided doing so on the idea that I'd be quite biased given he was attacking me. I should probably take time to remove that autotown read on him and look into it more.
Anyway I wanted to post my reads before deadline but was unfortunately away (playing paintball). No one died?
First thing I wanted to get out of the way: do we think none of the scum bussed on day 1? This is a 12 player game, there are almost certainly 3 scum. What's the most likely split for votes by scum?
I don't think it's likely that both scum bussed unless they are more active than I think they are. It certainly doesn't seem like the most active players are scum, and the only person who is suspicious at all that has posted a fair amount is JP. His vote was on PT.
On DrT the two most suspicious players are HW and Eccleston. Everyone else looks fine.
So, unless one of the scum has tricked us, there are five players (six if you count me) that we should look into.
JP
HW
Eccleston
TheDavison
Ptroughton
Someone is probably getting replaced/modkilled-for now let's assume it's PT and ignore him. If he gets replaced we will probably know his alignment (hopefully) decently well within 24 hours of his replacement coming in, assuming the replacement is reasonably active. If PT is not the one being replaced we should strongly consider killing him, since it means he is somehow active enough to stay in the game, yet has contributed nothing to town and is not active by town standards, i.e. probably scum. Thus the replacement issue should probably resolve itself.
So, going with the assumption that PT is being replaced, we look at 4:
JP
HW
Eccleston
TheDavison
I found myself agreeing with some of Davison's logic, particularly that contested lynches on day 1 are useful. However, I'm not sure why, if he was truly interested in starting a wagon, he didn't push me harder. In addition, he never swapped his vote back to DrT at the end of the day, even stranger for a townie. Even if he didn't have the motivation to push me after his initial votepost I would at the very least expect some sort of vote back to the main candidate to prevent a no-lynch. This is extended majority, not plurality. His vote was wasted, and removing two votes from the main wagon would result in no-lynch. As town he should know that.
More interesting, is the effort that Davison put into reading and posting about everyone, except JP. I don't like forming connections before flips but this one is extraordinarily out of place.
On June 02 2013 04:25 TheDavison wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 19:23 SMcCoy wrote:@ TomI need your exact reasoning for giving JP a townread. He's the next guy I would lynch. All the noise he has been making was always an attempt to shift the lynch away from DrT, I will show it in more detail. @ TheDavisonI want to know why you're not considering JP, and I would like you to comment on the points written in favor of H3 so far. Multiple players have given him townreads, myself included.______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Then, I don't like how this guy joined the wagon, he has basically no other posts of value, and keeps himself the option open to switch to trout should the counterwagon gain steam: On May 31 2013 05:00 HartnellWill wrote:
##Vote DrTennant. Other than skimming the thread, Tennant's filter is surprisingly empty of anything that would contribute to town. Mostly asking others to do work for him while he sits and waits and gets his postcount up.
And while I'm reading PT2's case right now, it wouldn't be a surprise to see both of them role scum. DrT votes him without saying another word. Sheeping the wagon that isn't him because it isn't him that will get killed if it goes through. Vigi should probably shoot Trout for uselessness, although I would speculate that he's town based on current information. Nonetheless it's better if we take him out of the equation. Hartnelwill might be another viable option cause he's a lurker. I'm not not considering JP, I need to reread to see what I think of him though. Update on that in a few minutes after I see whats what.
Note that this never happened, despite Davison staying around and posting on PT, and HW, two of the easiest people to comment on. Both of their filters are almost completely void. (there was also a post on MSmith IIRC)
In light of all of this I think it's quite likely Davison is scum.
Eccleston
Based on what I've read of Eccleston's posts I think he's probably the most likely to be town out of the entire lot. In fact, I think he's quite likely to be town. He's made very specific observations that are quite hard for scum to make. I do not, for example, think that the average TL scum player would say anything like these:
On May 31 2013 19:25 Eccleston wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 11:20 Hurndall3 wrote:
##unvote
##vote DrT
k I think I can sheep this DrT shit now that I read the case thoroughly.
these are the points that convinced me to sheep.
1 DrT's overdefense
2 unnatural calmness
3 repeated appeal that scum is among the inactives
4 one dimensional scumreads Can you explain to me why you think that these points are exclusive to a scum mindset? For example, point three could be explained from a town perspective too; if DrT is a townie being tunneled, trying to shift the attention toward the lurkers is a perfectly valid thing to do if he thinks that the mafia are lurking. Before, you dismissed his "overdefense", as brought up by MSmith1 here (it's point two in his post), saying that "2 people are searching for something to talk about early game. This is true of both town and scum." What made you change your mind?
How often do scum reference posts and actually question the logic of someone else on such a specific level? Generally scum find it hard to fake the "figuring out" process because they've already been given the alignments of everyone in the game. It's almost impossible to fake this kind of specific questioning process-if questioning is faked by scum, it's usually more general or nebulous.
On May 31 2013 03:05 Eccleston wrote:I think lynching PT2 at this time would be unwise. He's made one post and thrown a vote on Hurndall3 for being "brief and blunt", and suddenly, ten hours later, he's a prime suspect? I think you're stretching it when you say that Show nested quote +Being present but not caring about scumhunting is actually much worse than simply not being present at all, because there is standing evidence that a player has at least taken the time to read and post, but still is not contributing. That's far from "null" in my opinion. At the time of his post the thread was about three and a half pages long. It doesn't really take much effort to read that and then write a five paragraph RP post and throw a vote on someone. He could just as well be disinterested townie. I could understand it if you were pushing him as a policy lynch because you're not certain about DrT, but how he is "far from null" is beyond me. He has made one (half serious) post in the entire game. Has he been useless? Yes. Does that make him scum? No.
This post reflects Eccleston's initial thought process regarding my opinion of PT yesterday. What's interesting is not necessarily this post itself, because I think the average scum could probably reasonably fake something like this. What's most interesting are his followup posts that demonstrate that he was thinking about this. IMO most scum would not put in the effort to think about what another player has written and said about someone else because they don't have to-they don't know how to fake the process, and so they only show the results of that process. This is partly also, IMO, why scum are so reluctant to swap votes. It's hard for scum to realistically be able to fake a decision-making process when their ulterior goal is to blend in. Eccleston doesn't display any of those tendencies. He's almost certainly town IMO.
If anyone can find instances where I am wrong about what I've said above, I'd love to hear it. The only thing that could possibly be held against Eccleston, IMO, is his relatively low recent activity, but given the context of the game I do not think it is a point worthy of consideration unless his inactivity persists.
So, this leaves JP and HW.
HartnellWill has nothing. Nothing really to say on this-he could also potentially be the person for whom GM was looking for a replacement. His vote timing is not early enough to be conclusive evidence of him being town and not late enough to be conclusive evidence of him bussing either.
JP is consistent throughout his attacks on PT. The worst things against JP are:
his lack of presence at crucial times for town during the day. He wasn't around for the lynch, his vote never moved from a doomed wagon, and he acted relatively strange with respect to the flipped scum.
However, there are a couple things in his favor, particularly this little bit, which is what I was referencing when I said I found his tone to be townish.
On June 01 2013 02:02 JPertwee wrote:
You could telling me I should defending Dr. Tennant. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'm telling you why we should lynch Troughton first, and then Tennant tomorrow unless something comes up that clears him. I don't care to defend Tennant, if he wants to defend himself, he can. I have no interest in it. I have interest in lynching my top scum read, which is the guy who has claimed scum in the thread.
Bolded emphasis mine-this is not much but I don't think this anger is faked. Certainly he could be frustrated scum (with the lynch of his buddy perhaps) but I'm wary of that. Generally displays of frustration and use of tone like this is indicative of a townie.
The only other thing worthy of any mention is Davison's failure to provide a read on JP, but that is more reflective of Davison's alignment than JP's.
Based on what we have in the thread right now, I would say that Davison and JP are our best bets for lynches today, but I would strongly favor Davison precisely because he made a promise on reads that he didn't follow up on despite being present and following up on other reads. HW and PT have no posts and there is probably some mod intervention that is going to happen with at least one of them, and Eccleston to me looks like he is town.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 02 2013 07:50 Baker1986 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2013 06:52 SMcCoy wrote:
Deliver some more analysis on your scumspects pls, or at least agree with what others write, you're supposed to push the lynches you claim to want you know. A lot of the stuff we're talking about isn't really relevant for tomorrow's lynch and that is displeasing.
If I was scum I probably couldn't care less if Town-Tom thought I was scum. wat
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On June 02 2013 16:10 TomB4 wrote:I need to read in on Davison, but I avoided doing so on the idea that I'd be quite biased given he was attacking me. I should probably take time to remove that autotown read on him and look into it more. Anyway I wanted to post my reads before deadline but was unfortunately away (playing paintball). No one died? First thing I wanted to get out of the way: do we think none of the scum bussed on day 1? This is a 12 player game, there are almost certainly 3 scum. What's the most likely split for votes by scum? I don't think it's likely that both scum bussed unless they are more active than I think they are. It certainly doesn't seem like the most active players are scum, and the only person who is suspicious at all that has posted a fair amount is JP. His vote was on PT. On DrT the two most suspicious players are HW and Eccleston. Everyone else looks fine. So, unless one of the scum has tricked us, there are five players (six if you count me) that we should look into. JP HW Eccleston TheDavison Ptroughton Someone is probably getting replaced/modkilled-for now let's assume it's PT and ignore him. If he gets replaced we will probably know his alignment (hopefully) decently well within 24 hours of his replacement coming in, assuming the replacement is reasonably active. If PT is not the one being replaced we should strongly consider killing him, since it means he is somehow active enough to stay in the game, yet has contributed nothing to town and is not active by town standards, i.e. probably scum. Thus the replacement issue should probably resolve itself. So, going with the assumption that PT is being replaced, we look at 4: JP HW Eccleston TheDavison I found myself agreeing with some of Davison's logic, particularly that contested lynches on day 1 are useful. However, I'm not sure why, if he was truly interested in starting a wagon, he didn't push me harder. In addition, he never swapped his vote back to DrT at the end of the day, even stranger for a townie. Even if he didn't have the motivation to push me after his initial votepost I would at the very least expect some sort of vote back to the main candidate to prevent a no-lynch. This is extended majority, not plurality. His vote was wasted, and removing two votes from the main wagon would result in no-lynch. As town he should know that. More interesting, is the effort that Davison put into reading and posting about everyone, except JP. I don't like forming connections before flips but this one is extraordinarily out of place. Show nested quote +On June 02 2013 04:25 TheDavison wrote:On June 01 2013 19:23 SMcCoy wrote:@ TomI need your exact reasoning for giving JP a townread. He's the next guy I would lynch. All the noise he has been making was always an attempt to shift the lynch away from DrT, I will show it in more detail. @ TheDavisonI want to know why you're not considering JP, and I would like you to comment on the points written in favor of H3 so far. Multiple players have given him townreads, myself included.______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Then, I don't like how this guy joined the wagon, he has basically no other posts of value, and keeps himself the option open to switch to trout should the counterwagon gain steam: On May 31 2013 05:00 HartnellWill wrote:
##Vote DrTennant. Other than skimming the thread, Tennant's filter is surprisingly empty of anything that would contribute to town. Mostly asking others to do work for him while he sits and waits and gets his postcount up.
And while I'm reading PT2's case right now, it wouldn't be a surprise to see both of them role scum. DrT votes him without saying another word. Sheeping the wagon that isn't him because it isn't him that will get killed if it goes through. Vigi should probably shoot Trout for uselessness, although I would speculate that he's town based on current information. Nonetheless it's better if we take him out of the equation. Hartnelwill might be another viable option cause he's a lurker. I'm not not considering JP, I need to reread to see what I think of him though. Update on that in a few minutes after I see whats what. Note that this never happened, despite Davison staying around and posting on PT, and HW, two of the easiest people to comment on. Both of their filters are almost completely void. (there was also a post on MSmith IIRC) In light of all of this I think it's quite likely Davison is scum. EcclestonBased on what I've read of Eccleston's posts I think he's probably the most likely to be town out of the entire lot. In fact, I think he's quite likely to be town. He's made very specific observations that are quite hard for scum to make. I do not, for example, think that the average TL scum player would say anything like these: Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:25 Eccleston wrote:On May 31 2013 11:20 Hurndall3 wrote:
##unvote
##vote DrT
k I think I can sheep this DrT shit now that I read the case thoroughly.
these are the points that convinced me to sheep.
1 DrT's overdefense
2 unnatural calmness
3 repeated appeal that scum is among the inactives
4 one dimensional scumreads Can you explain to me why you think that these points are exclusive to a scum mindset? For example, point three could be explained from a town perspective too; if DrT is a townie being tunneled, trying to shift the attention toward the lurkers is a perfectly valid thing to do if he thinks that the mafia are lurking. Before, you dismissed his "overdefense", as brought up by MSmith1 here (it's point two in his post), saying that "2 people are searching for something to talk about early game. This is true of both town and scum." What made you change your mind? How often do scum reference posts and actually question the logic of someone else on such a specific level? Generally scum find it hard to fake the "figuring out" process because they've already been given the alignments of everyone in the game. It's almost impossible to fake this kind of specific questioning process-if questioning is faked by scum, it's usually more general or nebulous. Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 03:05 Eccleston wrote:I think lynching PT2 at this time would be unwise. He's made one post and thrown a vote on Hurndall3 for being "brief and blunt", and suddenly, ten hours later, he's a prime suspect? I think you're stretching it when you say that Being present but not caring about scumhunting is actually much worse than simply not being present at all, because there is standing evidence that a player has at least taken the time to read and post, but still is not contributing. That's far from "null" in my opinion. At the time of his post the thread was about three and a half pages long. It doesn't really take much effort to read that and then write a five paragraph RP post and throw a vote on someone. He could just as well be disinterested townie. I could understand it if you were pushing him as a policy lynch because you're not certain about DrT, but how he is "far from null" is beyond me. He has made one (half serious) post in the entire game. Has he been useless? Yes. Does that make him scum? No. This post reflects Eccleston's initial thought process regarding my opinion of PT yesterday. What's interesting is not necessarily this post itself, because I think the average scum could probably reasonably fake something like this. What's most interesting are his followup posts that demonstrate that he was thinking about this. IMO most scum would not put in the effort to think about what another player has written and said about someone else because they don't have to-they don't know how to fake the process, and so they only show the results of that process. This is partly also, IMO, why scum are so reluctant to swap votes. It's hard for scum to realistically be able to fake a decision-making process when their ulterior goal is to blend in. Eccleston doesn't display any of those tendencies. He's almost certainly town IMO. If anyone can find instances where I am wrong about what I've said above, I'd love to hear it. The only thing that could possibly be held against Eccleston, IMO, is his relatively low recent activity, but given the context of the game I do not think it is a point worthy of consideration unless his inactivity persists. So, this leaves JP and HW. HartnellWill has nothing. Nothing really to say on this-he could also potentially be the person for whom GM was looking for a replacement. His vote timing is not early enough to be conclusive evidence of him being town and not late enough to be conclusive evidence of him bussing either. JP is consistent throughout his attacks on PT. The worst things against JP are: his lack of presence at crucial times for town during the day. He wasn't around for the lynch, his vote never moved from a doomed wagon, and he acted relatively strange with respect to the flipped scum. However, there are a couple things in his favor, particularly this little bit, which is what I was referencing when I said I found his tone to be townish. Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 02:02 JPertwee wrote:
You could telling me I should defending Dr. Tennant. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'm telling you why we should lynch Troughton first, and then Tennant tomorrow unless something comes up that clears him. I don't care to defend Tennant, if he wants to defend himself, he can. I have no interest in it. I have interest in lynching my top scum read, which is the guy who has claimed scum in the thread. Bolded emphasis mine-this is not much but I don't think this anger is faked. Certainly he could be frustrated scum (with the lynch of his buddy perhaps) but I'm wary of that. Generally displays of frustration and use of tone like this is indicative of a townie. The only other thing worthy of any mention is Davison's failure to provide a read on JP, but that is more reflective of Davison's alignment than JP's. Based on what we have in the thread right now, I would say that Davison and JP are our best bets for lynches today, but I would strongly favor Davison precisely because he made a promise on reads that he didn't follow up on despite being present and following up on other reads. HW and PT have no posts and there is probably some mod intervention that is going to happen with at least one of them, and Eccleston to me looks like he is town. + Show Spoiler +On June 02 2013 07:50 Baker1986 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2013 06:52 SMcCoy wrote:
Deliver some more analysis on your scumspects pls, or at least agree with what others write, you're supposed to push the lynches you claim to want you know. A lot of the stuff we're talking about isn't really relevant for tomorrow's lynch and that is displeasing.
If I was scum I probably couldn't care less if Town-Tom thought I was scum. wat
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Tom raises some good points actually, here's a tl; dr for why Davison might be a good lynch, too.
of those I'd be way more interested in DrT, JP and Tom flipping than the other three.
On my reread I think its unlikely Hurn is scum.
I think we should look into H3 and TB4 most, those are the guys (TB4 more so)
I'll write up a full case on TB4 within this night phase.
I'm not not considering JP, I need to reread to see what I think of him though. Update on that in a few minutes after I see whats what.
I'm reading filters now and will update with reads and reasons when I have them.
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