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On March 02 2013 19:31 randombum wrote:
Chez is looking very scummy looking at this point. Although the set-up speculation is giving me doubts. Still, I would be happy to see him lynched. vote chez
RandomBum
On March 01 2013 13:46 randombum wrote:
Going to wait on the aftermath of the day vig before really committing to anything though.
?Chezinu?
What happened to Jcarlsoniv?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=120#2388
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On March 02 2013 19:25 MilkSuckler wrote:
Im still confused by JJ role claim.. (before Toad died).. it gave scum two blues to NK? I just dont get it.
On March 02 2013 23:58 layabout wrote:
milk i am fairly sure the point of it was that dr.h was saying that Toad/vivax was a confirmed liar/scum based on them both being roleblocked.
@Layabout
Yeah, but Dr.H was spewing false information at the time..
My point is: *IF* JJ was town and RB'd Toad.. why admit to it?
Lets say, the claim saved Toad from lynch.. then with 2 Mafia KP, we lose JJ & Toad during the night.
The outcome of saving Toad becomes pointless.
Now JJ talks up his game as if he is ?Syllogism? so I expect with his pedigree, to be fully aware of the risk outcome. Fuck, he could even be day-vigged for that.
So I am left with why make the post in the first place?
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personality i wrote geript off as newbie town day1 when he decided his main goal was to stop Dr.h being pardoner but not mayor. I know what you mean. His continual tenacity makes me want to write him off as town.. But.. he just has this habit of releasing emotionally charged grenades at his "scum targets".
My main issue with Geript is I played with him last game (as scum).. and felt the need to shoot him Night 1.
That game, he was logical, and clearly cut through the bullshit I was weaving. He was also aggressive without being obnoxious.
This game, there is a clear contrast in play: and if he was confirmed town, I dont see scum shooting him any time soon.
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I woke up to only 15 posts? I guess with VE gone it makes a big difference 
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On March 02 2013 16:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 13:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How could he possibly not conclude I am scum earlier than now? There is absolutely no town reason to do either of those 2 things, yet he was unwilling to call me out on either point. I already said that I previously liked a number of your previous posts. I was back and forth on you. Not anymore. Show nested quote +He does not talk about Prom at all and makes no effort to push his original scumread through out the progression of Day 1. As though making his case was enough contribution to blend in. When people don't like my initial post, I went back re-read. Though more and started working on making it better while tabling it to look at other players. I don't mind waiting as I'm generally quite patient. Show nested quote +Doesn't see the martrying as scummy (most unbelievably scummy thing a player can do) and misses the incredible scumslip logic in Prom's farewell. Never mentions it until asked. Am I not allowed to be wrong? I didn't agree with it in my read. Isn't this the point that I brought up? Funny, I bring it up AND point out that it made me look scummy. Reasonable to as scum give you the bullets to shoot at me? Show nested quote +Why would a town player be actively opposed to being pardoner anyway? I'm never going to use the power so it ends up meaning nothing to me as an individual. When there's a safety play at IMPs in bridge, only an idiot doesn't make it. MPs is different, but at IMPs you make the damn safety play as the risk of gaining 1 IMP at the cost of 11 IMPs just isn't worth it. That's my take on it at least. Perfect town victory doesn't matter and doesn't happen. With a clear safety play available, I made the attempt at it. Show nested quote +It doesn't matter. He can't explain what is town about what I'm doing, just that he is able to follow my logic. But he clearly doesn't accept or believe that I'm not just trying to steal pardoner. Later he calls me a liar.
Town players here's a multiple choice question:
1. Player X is making a clear attempt to steal the pardoner role. He is lying about the intentions of his mayoral campaign and trying to stop a popular town candidate from getting mayor. What conclusion can you come to:
A. This player is scum
B. This player is third party
C. This player is town
D. Null
Anyone who doesn't pick A or B is lying to themselves. You've admitted to being back and forth to some extent on things in your head... Am I not allowed to be mixed in opinion? Show nested quote +Never again pushes WoS. He is not at all concerned about who is lynched Day 1, but very concerned with making sure people are suspicious of me. So now I'm guilty for pushing people I'm suspicious of or pushing my suspicions so that other people see them? What's wrong with that? Show nested quote +Again with the pardoner conspiracies, not attempting to push scumreads. I thought this guy was gonna filter dive all game? So me attacking VE for my opinions of him isn't trying to create an argument? Show nested quote +VE dies that night as town. Irrelevant, as mafia I would not ever avoid attacking a town player I accused of being scum. WIFOM either way. While I agree that (verbally) attacking or making a case against someone who you intend to kill isn't bad scum play, it doesn't make it great scum play either. Show nested quote +A liar who tried to steal pardoner isn't enough for a lynch? Huh? How could that lie possibly be useful? You're right. It couldn't. You're scum. Also, if you're allowed to misread the thread, then I can do it too. Especially when I got to read the thread around 9, 2, 6, 8 and now.
1. You're guilty for pushing suspicions on me instead of WoS who you originally thought was scum. A townie has no reason to spend effort spreading doubt on a null read while neglecting to push his own scum target.
2. You end this post admitting you think I'm scum on the basis that I lied with the sole intention of stealing pardoner. I'm glad you see now that no townie would ever do this. However, you not coming to this conclusion earlier and only finally FoSing me on a scumslip that didn't actually exist is highly suspect. Now you seem more confident then ever that I'm scum even though I've disproven the single point that made you accuse me in the first place!
This suggests to me that you were just waiting for the right thing to use to attack me, like it was a forgone conclusion.
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Geript quotes from a game where he is town!
I'd point out that no one has really made a case against you at all. As far as I see it, your agenda has been to make the town atmosphere negative. Yes, it takes two to get into a flame war and I'm not giving war baby any credit avoiding those spats either. In the least Mocsta has shown that he's willing to listen, even though I think his vote for me is weak at best. You on the other hand have tunnel visioned on your target of the moment at each point. Scum hunting is fine and being aggressive is fine. But the belligerent tone you've taken at many points, especially over exceptionally minor things, isn't beneficial to the town. lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395714&user=298120¤tpage=3
Every post is long, the reasoning is clear, no snide behavior, no attitude, focused on making his logic clear and pressuring his scum case when he presents is. Once his case rolls out, he spents the rest of his filter arguing it.
The behavior in this filter and in this game now are so different I can't believe they are the same alignment. He actually plays pretty well in this newbie game as far as his approach and everything is concerned.
On February 12 2013 10:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:He then goes and says that he thinks Warbaby is town (after voting him): On February 12 2013 01:11 geript wrote:
I do think warbaby is town.
Either he is scum trying to defend a townie (if he is scum he would know WB is town or not) to get towncred, defending his scum buddy, or I can't take him seriously. Could you please explain this more to me? I feel like I'm missing something.
Town Geript responding to pressure
Geript in this game responding to pressure:
"lol go ahead doc, im waiting, guess i might as well vote myself in the meantime"On February 12 2013 04:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 02:21 Sn0_Man wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Geript's big post] +On February 12 2013 01:11 geript wrote:I do think warbaby is town. On points 1 and 2: While this is a newbie game, I don't think that taking his townie claim or referencing 36 as anything other than a null read. Sorry, but I'm not seeing the point you're making in 4 either. As I read: Show nested quote +On February 11 2013 13:54 warbaby wrote:
Since we've both posted plenty, how about we not post for a while? more as trying to get the town as a whole involved rather than have Mcosta posting incessantly as he has been. While I agree on point 3, that warbaby hasn't really partaken in scum hunting, I don't think that this is a good measure of town v scum 6 hours into D1. To be honest, your case feels more like a gag. My concern would moreso be Mocsta. 1. He seems unconcerned as to who to throw towards the vote While some may read it as him aggressively trying to test the town, I read his posts and various switches and tests as just trying to see where he can gain traction. As well, he jumps on the first person having any real traction. 2. He doesn't even read his own posts First, he calls Warbaby's generic opening scummy when it's null at best. Next he tacks on his own important notes, and finally he calls Warbaby's initial post null. 3. He has diarrhea of the keyboard Show nested quote +On February 11 2013 09:55 Mocsta wrote:
Post consolidation definitely important. No need to hear every thought. But this is no excuse for lurking either. Additionally, he brings ups the post consolidation point which he actively avoids. Show nested quote +On February 11 2013 09:52 Mocsta wrote:
Did not realise 4 people represented a majority in this game.
Why dont you give others a chance to post their own thoughts instead of trying to forcefully influence them before they have spoken.
Are you trying for a dictatorship here or something? Here he's accusing me, in effect, of running for mayor all while pushing his RNG agenda heavily. Show nested quote +On February 11 2013 14:15 Mocsta wrote:\
I thought you said you were going to take a break from posting anyways.... Blames warbaby for coming back to post 2 times after 'taking a break' when Mocsta has posted 8. At best, all this comes off as unintentional bad play. At worst it's an overexcited scum player. I find the latter more believable and either way I feel better about lynching him currently than lynching a lurker. A few things to highlight in the post above: 1) A town read on warbaby. While he gives OK reasons for a null read, I didn't really see any justification for "I do think warbaby is town". 2) A target that is distinctly not "addition by subtraction" based. Mocsta isn't a low-content poster. Sure most of his posts are bleh but at least he is making them. 3) Most of geript's points are based on ad-hominem attacks on mocsta and his style rather than on his play and contributions. I mean, I don't like Mocsta or his style either, but I think this game he has begun making real contributions to town. Rather than outline stuff that is scummy, geript is focusing on more peripheral stuff. First thing to realize is that was a post I had typed up as of Cora's following post on p21. I wanted to reread and edit it after getting up to make sure I was making sense and posting effectively. + Show Spoiler +On February 11 2013 14:46 cDgCorazon wrote:##Vote: WarbabyCongratulations WB, it's been 5 hours and I already think you are scum. I'm going to break this down into a few points: 1. Your "I'm not Mafia rofl" claim.The biggest problem is that you have claimed town within the first 4 hours. You not only claimed town, but you're basically waving a giant sign that says "HEY LOOK EVERYONE, I'M TOWN". The nature of your claim is ridiculous, almost too much. Examples: Show nested quote +On February 11 2013 13:41 warbaby wrote:
So you have a problem with me claiming that I'm being pro-town? You clearly did not read the post-game analysis in '36. Claiming town is not a scummy thing to do.
I'm not trying to trick you into thinking I'm town.
Corazon was town in '36 and so am I, right now, in '37.
You're coming on way too strong with this claim for me to believe it. 2. Continuing to play the victim from the mislynch in NMM 36.Examples: Show nested quote +Warbaby
"Also whatever guys, if you want to vote me for posting good ideas for town that you agree with, go ahead. That's why I got mislynched in '36 and now it's up for nomination as the worst lynch in 2013. I suppose you want to top '36 by mislynching me D1? :D"
"I had to defend myself against these ridiculous claims in '36, until I was finally mislynched for it."
It's another part in trying to associate yourself too hard with being townie. You need to get it through your head that this isn't XXXVI anymore. We're all sorry for the mislynch last game, but you need to come in here and forget about it. It's a whole different game with different players. Stop trying to stay in the past. 3. Your lack of scumhunting.Goes without saying, you've done none of it yet. All the jabs you made at Mocsta have been points that myself and other people have discussed to death already. Bring something new to the table. 4. Trying to change the subject when the pressure is on you.Show nested quote +On February 11 2013 13:54 warbaby wrote:
Since we've both posted plenty, how about we not post for a while? This is the scummiest part. If you are town, you should be trying to prove that your claim is true, and not kill discussion right when it starts to pick up. For these reasons, you are getting my vote for the time being. If you are really town, you should have no trouble proving your innocence. 1. I don't have great reasons that I can point to for warbaby being town. My read is/was that he's just a VT/veterant that was trying to pull an attack his way. As his other posts have made him a more reasonable sounding lynch/mislynch target for which a case could be made against, I think he negated the attack pull. If you want a more concrete case/reasons, then I'm sorry I can't oblige there. 2. I disagree fully. Take for example the following: + Show Spoiler +On February 12 2013 00:52 Mocsta wrote:
Guys im going to bed.
zarepath, I am not sure if the start of your post was addressed to me?
If so, I had mandalor as null read; he said a few things but until he follows through its all NON-alignment indicative.
btw, quite a few decent points in that case; I think some are educated assumptions, and others are really contradictory to ideal town play. Will wait and see what wave has to say for himself before proceeding further. Is there any actual content in this post? This post specifically states that he his posting simply for the sake of posting. "A few decent points..." Ok, fine which ones and why; expand the case. "Some educated assumptions..." = "adlkjfa;ldhfaldha;fl. "Others are really contradictory ideal town play..." then point it out. "Will wait and see..." sounds more like bandwagoning or sheeping. Considering his other activity (jumping on warbaby early after my opening attempt and again after following Cora's post) to willfully follow instead of lead, he looks far more like scum than actually and actively dig/hunt for his own ideas or espouse his own concepts. But when it looks like he's been trying to run for mayor, to switch gears into following others lead instead of espousing his own looks suspicious to me. 3. I think there's enough content in this post and the previous to realize that I'm not just making ad homenim attacks. ##vote mocsta@sn0_man What do you think are Mocsta's town contributions? What are the 'scummy things' Mocsta has done that you think I'm avoiding?
Look at how he explains his thoughts clearly in several paragraphs before voting instead of off of a throwaway sentence like "oh...that could be a scumslip" and he has a genuine interest in coming to an understanding/agreement with other players in the game
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
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On March 01 2013 12:52 geript wrote:
Promethelax (5): geript, TestSubject893, Toadesstern, Vivax, Layabout
I wasn't arguing for town cred from the Prom pardoner push. My argument is that VE was in the lead (and VE ie honey badger does what he wants) wouldn't scum want to force Prome's bussing? Interesting that Toad shows up here too hunh?
KK. Long delayed but a pr0m153 is a promise. My short reads on the ppl vote swapping end of D1 cycle.
Geript: Probably Scum... On March 03 2013 00:14 MilkSuckler wrote:
His continual tenacity makes me want to write him off as town.. But.. he just has this habit of releasing emotionally charged grenades at his "scum targets".
My main issue with Geript is I played with him last game (as scum).. and felt the need to shoot him Night 1.
That game, he was logical, and clearly cut through the bullshit I was weaving. He was also aggressive without being obnoxious.
This game, there is a clear contrast in play: and if he was confirmed town, I dont see scum shooting him any time soon.
TestSubject893: Probably Town... from early game is suspicious of pardoner role with a genuine conviction. Late Day1 play follows that.. i also really liked his transparency of thought regarding his when he made his promise of reads (that I called him out on).
Toadesstern: Flipped
Vivax: Learning Town...I am not used to playing with a non-crazy Vivax. He has really toned it down, which makes me inherently suspicious. If I judge purely off how he has pushed his reads, I am inclined to lean town. Regardless of the outcome of Milkman, I was pretty impressed how he went about pushing that read/case. The effort to go in and re-communicate that case in different format.. i just dont see scum making that effort.
Layabout: Leaning Town...Was one of the few with clairvoyance during the vote craze of D1 end; and trying to ensure prome didnt get pardoner. His targets for pressure have aligned somewhat with mine.
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On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations.
The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot.
Geript, no idea what role he possesses.
Thoughts?
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No bites? Lets try again
On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations.
The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot.
Geript, no idea what role he possesses.
@ALL
Thoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript?
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It's not like there is nothing to talk about or analyze. There's 20 people in here right? Why are only 3 or 4 of us involved in the discussion?
(if geript is a hatter trying to get himself lynched to herobomb scum then i applaud him)
but vigis and hatters need to start wasting the trash in this game
macho man, testsubject893, glurio, randombum, obviousone, hassybaby, restraining order, grush57
I'd bet 100 ESPORTS dollars there are about 2-3 scum in there
and another 1 in here:
layabout, aquanim, chezinu
Who was it that said JJ was scum for claiming Jailer? That person is likely scum and should get shot. That is absolute retardation JJ is confirmed town
the only scenario in which JJ could be lying is one in which JJ and Vivax are both scum if I'm actually thinking clearly right now
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by the way if the mad hatter had bombs on chezinu and geript id consider lynching the mad hatter
or testsubject/geript
just blow this game up and let's see what we have on day 3
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On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:No bites? Lets try again Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations. The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot. Geript, no idea what role he possesses.@ALLThoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript?
I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.
On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever. You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling. I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed.
I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip.
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On March 03 2013 01:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Who was it that said JJ was scum for claiming Jailer? That person is likely scum and should get shot. That is absolute retardation JJ is confirmed town
I think it was WF. Is that enough for you to want to kill him?
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On March 03 2013 01:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
by the way if the mad hatter had bombs on chezinu and geript id consider lynching the mad hatter
or testsubject/geript
just blow this game up and let's see what we have on day 3
Why me?
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On March 03 2013 02:01 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Who was it that said JJ was scum for claiming Jailer? That person is likely scum and should get shot. That is absolute retardation JJ is confirmed town
I think it was WF. Is that enough for you to want to kill him?
Hm, I had a pretty town read for him on most of this game. It makes me want to read his filter really closely when I come back from work today.
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On March 03 2013 01:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
by the way if the mad hatter had bombs on chezinu and geript id consider lynching the mad hatter
or testsubject/geript
just blow this game up and let's see what we have on day 3
The flavour says, hatter/engineer can only lay 1 bomb per night.. so if you do that, u kill 1 guy for 1 return.
also..
On March 03 2013 01:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Who was it that said JJ was scum for claiming Jailer? That person is likely scum and should get shot. That is absolute retardation JJ is confirmed town
the only scenario in which JJ could be lying is one in which JJ and Vivax are both scum if I'm actually thinking clearly right now On March 02 2013 07:20 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 07:19 Vivax wrote:
Wade, why do you completely ignore JJ's Jailer claim? It's a meaningless claim. The only thing it does is make him look scummier
I believe it was Wade Fell.
i still dont get why it makes him confirmed town (as per here)
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On March 03 2013 01:59 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:No bites? Lets try again On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations. The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot. Geript, no idea what role he possesses.@ALLThoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript? I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.
Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever. You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling. I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed. I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip.
I actually wondered about that bit too, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and let him clarify before I call it a scumslip.
And you because you were there with geript pushing doubt and nothing else on Day 1 Prom Lynch and you're playing very scared and hesitant. Problem with mafia game is differentiating new and scared town from mafia can be pretty hard so I'd hope you start putting some pep in your step and show some initiative here.
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On March 03 2013 02:03 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
by the way if the mad hatter had bombs on chezinu and geript id consider lynching the mad hatter
or testsubject/geript
just blow this game up and let's see what we have on day 3 The flavour says, hatter/engineer can only lay 1 bomb per night.. so if you do that, u kill 1 guy for 1 return. also.. Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Who was it that said JJ was scum for claiming Jailer? That person is likely scum and should get shot. That is absolute retardation JJ is confirmed town
the only scenario in which JJ could be lying is one in which JJ and Vivax are both scum if I'm actually thinking clearly right now Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 07:20 Wade Fell wrote:On March 02 2013 07:19 Vivax wrote:
Wade, why do you completely ignore JJ's Jailer claim? It's a meaningless claim. The only thing it does is make him look scummier I believe it was Wade Fell. i still dont get why it makes him confirmed town (as per here)
There are two roleblocks last night:
Toadesstern was roleblocked (flipped town, he has no reason to lie so more or less proven)
Vivax was roleblocked (unproven)
There are two roleblockers in the game:
Town Jailer
Mafia Roleblocker
If JJ is scum then he is fake claiming Town Roleblocker when in reality he is either the scum roleblocker who RB'd Vivax/Toades or one of his teammates is. The problem is, because there were two claimed roleblocks scum would know for certain that jailer is a present role in the game and would never claim it because it would be counterclaimed. The only way scum would claim this role is if Vivax is scum and is lying about his roleblock but in that case STILL they would not know if the Jailer really exists or not.
So either JJ and Vivax are both scum scheming together or JJ is probably the actual jailer
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On March 03 2013 01:59 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:No bites? Lets try again On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations. The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot. Geript, no idea what role he possesses.@ALLThoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript? I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.
Show nested quote +On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever. You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling. I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed. I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip.
Hmmm That does look like a complete slip. Only people who have to defend their reads are town. I'm fingering 2 people WoS and Dr. Hmmmmmmm.
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On March 03 2013 02:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:59 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:No bites? Lets try again On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations. The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot. Geript, no idea what role he possesses.@ALLThoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript? I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.
On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever. You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling. I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed. I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip. I actually wondered about that bit too, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and let him clarify before I call it a scumslip. And you because you were there with geript pushing doubt and nothing else on Day 1 Prom Lynch and you're playing very scared and hesitant. Problem with mafia game is differentiating new and scared town from mafia can be pretty hard so I'd hope you start putting some pep in your step and show some initiative here. Well thats interesting that you profess this reasoning.
TestSubject is one of my stronger town reads.. if we look @ your point about doubt.. the way TestSubject has gone about has been transparent and relatively paranoid. - i.e. townie
Geript has spewed false logic, and is actively trying to create doubt and chaos. i.e. scummie
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On March 03 2013 02:07 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 01:59 TestSubject893 wrote:On March 03 2013 01:46 MilkSuckler wrote:No bites? Lets try again On March 03 2013 00:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol it's just so different i mean i'd really rather lynch geript
I am happy to lynch Chezinu/Geript over consecutive cycles, as the cases are not associations. The reason I would lynch Geript > Chezinu, is because: Chezinu already used his day-vig shot. Geript, no idea what role he possesses.@ALLThoughts? - Vote exodus to Geript? I could get on board with that. I guess the questions are 'are Chez and Geript both so scummy that at this point there is no way either avoids being lynched?', and 'can we assure enough votes get to geript that we don't accidentally no-lynch from neither having 11?'. I'd answer the former with yes, and the latter with I don't know.
On March 02 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 02 2013 15:46 geript wrote:
If this were a ragequit, then I'd stop reading the thread. The only way I see that I can push my reads at this point is to get lynched. The only time it's useful to the town, in my view, is if I get lynched today. I'm concerned that the vig won't consider attacking me at night for fear that I'm the armorer or whatever. You're not even going to attempt to defend your shit logic? What exactly would a flip on you prove? We've already had flips on people you've been fingering all game and boy oh BOY have THEY been telling. I'm honestly just wondering how you're going to justify all of your tells throughout the game to yourself in the postgame. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially if your lynch in some who-the-fuck-knows-how way gets me killed. I'm reading this as if WoS knows for sure that geript's alignment is town. Am I misreading it? WoS doesn't seem scummy to me, but this looks like a scumslip. Hmmm That does look like a complete slip. Only people who have to defend their reads are town. I'm fingering 2 people WoS and Dr. Hmmmmmmm.
LOL.. i didnt treat it as a scum slip.. perhaps I am unique
Nice DE-LURK
i treated it as in.. your pushing WoS hard. and he was basically saying.. im town, your gonna look like an idiot post-game
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