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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:15 geript wrote: For those of you who are taking my previous town meta into play, I want you to ask yourself one question: "How many of those posts do you think I got coaching on?" So you would completely abandon everything you learned? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
You bring up my game meta, yet still haven't answered how Mocsta's playing different from his meta. You're indifferent all over the place. You're more than happy to give out your town reads yet don't give a damn about anyone else's and attack Prome for being focused on town reads. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 03 2013 02:08 MilkSuckler wrote: LOL.. i didnt treat it as a scum slip.. perhaps I am unique Nice DE-LURK i treated it as in.. your pushing WoS hard. and he was basically saying.. im town, your gonna look like an idiot post-game This. And for the record geript still hasn't responded to my earlier case on him where he says he 'still believed VE was talking about him.' That kind of stubbornness in the face of overwhelming proof is just ridiculous. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
You still have nothing to say to the fact that your case was tied together by a scumslip that doesn't exist. If that was the reason you thought I was scum, why do you still think so after I cut that down? Mocsta is Milk Suckler? I don't have a scumread on him so I'm not going to go dive through his metagame just because you asked me to. Why would I give a damn about someone elses town reads or why would anybody? If your focus is discrediting us instead of pushing for the lynch of people who you think are scum - you are not playing like a townie. Period. You admit that's your goal. Not to lynch scum. But to discredit us. In your last game you say after your death that all that matters is lynching scum. You're scum. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 01 2013 05:15 WaveofShadow wrote: It makes you scum because you've been calling frantically for a vig shot waste and a mayor kill for ages with very little to go on. I admitted that part of your case has merit but I explained my thoughts on that. The rest is just useless. As far as the meta explanation, what is DR? And yeah, I get that RL is an issue; the only times I can contribute are during downtime at school or when my 2-month old kid is asleep (read: rarely), but I have been contributing nonetheless. Why would you sign up then if you have no time to make meaningful contributions? (I'm also unsure if you're trying to excuse your play this game or last game; I'm assuming you mean this game, but you contributed more often this game in a shorter amount of time {D1}, the posts are just crappier). Why does no one pay attention to my cases.  | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote: This. And for the record geript still hasn't responded to my earlier case on him where he says he 'still believed VE was talking about him.' That kind of stubbornness in the face of overwhelming proof is just ridiculous. Looking at last game, townie geript would be curious about understanding your reasoning and probably fall back when coming into new information. Any townie would. Geript isn't doing that. When he actually pointed out the one thing about me that would be a reasonable argument (it's untrue, but if he really thinks I'm a liar stealing pardoner he should have been pushing me yesterday) he then comes out and says I've been saying a lot of stuff that makes him think I'm town but can't say what it is. Now he's completely unwilling to listen to anything I have to say. This all happened after a PROVEN NONEXISTENT SCUMSLIP that he refuses to acknowledge right now. There is no way Geript is town. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote: And DrH I brought up the meta points regarding geript before and he defended himself using RL without explaining himself further. Why does no one pay attention to my cases. Because I don't have time to read someones filter from a previous game while I'm at work | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Looking at last game, townie geript would be curious about understanding your reasoning and probably fall back when coming into new information. Any townie would. Geript isn't doing that. When he actually pointed out the one thing about me that would be a reasonable argument (it's untrue, but if he really thinks I'm a liar stealing pardoner he should have been pushing me yesterday) he then comes out and says I've been saying a lot of stuff that makes him think I'm town but can't say what it is. Now he's completely unwilling to listen to anything I have to say. This all happened after a PROVEN NONEXISTENT SCUMSLIP that he refuses to acknowledge right now. There is no way Geript is town. I still kind of want to move the discussion on, but now it seems there might be a chance geript gets lynched today rather than Chez? I'd love to see both of them die anyway but to me it still seems as though Chez is more important, unless you count the fact that we've been talking about them all damn day, and Geript somehow manages to steer the discussion towards himself constantly to prevent useful discussion of anything else. He's not getting any scummier folks; time to make a decision one way or the other so we know where we stand. Mocsta, geript does bring up a point that he referred to your play being different D1. I agree with him actually, it certainly does look as you were disguising your play (obviously, I suppose, you're smurfing) but you dropped it near the end of day one before your smurf-slip. The thing ISSSSSS......(and I don't really like the idea of meta cases either, especially on someone more experienced) your play this game now seems much closer to yours last game where you were scum. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Why does no one pay attention to my cases. Because some people are more focused on jerking each other off and picking on newbies than anything else. I can't wait until I get to be a vig, I'm only going to shoot out of spite. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:50 geript wrote: Because some people are more focused on jerking each other off and picking on newbies than anything else. I can't wait until I get to be a vig, I'm only going to shoot out of spite. Geript, this is a personal plea to you, regardless of alignment. If you so believe that this is how people are treating you, PROVE THEM OTHERWISE. You're not doing very much to lift suspicion on yourself (and don't say you can't, because it's definitely possible, you've just given up) and it has nothing to do with the fact that you're new. I'm new as well and every time people bring up points regarding me I do my best to explain and/or defend them as well as coming up with more reads. Now I have nothing against you personally, but I think your play is extremely scummy. I have explained why. Unless you are some third-party role or there is some crazy plan that explains all this, martyring yourself as it currently stands isn't going to mean all that much. Play the game to get better, don't give up. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
His rough position during day 1 was that he wanted to be mayor he thought WoS was scum and that he didn't want drh to become pardoner. Isn't is strange that his position hasn't really changed? Whilst there have been several flips shootings and an excessive number of posts for him to take in and make judgements with at the start of day2 after chezinu started to gather votes he sticks his vote on WoS. But the last time he gave reasons for Wos being scum was on Feb 26!* He doesn't even try to get WoS lynched and yet he throws his vote unannouced in the voting thread. If he was town then he had basically decided to give up and that was before he was under pressure and started martyring. He also finally decides to call Dr.h scum but it's based off of an alleged and very weak "scumslip" that isn't a scumslip at all. Frankly i feel like he wanted to discredit Dr.h and picked WoS so that he could say he was scumhunting. + Show Spoiler [*] + although he does interact with him We should lynch geript. But we should do it tomorrow. I think we have scum in chezinu so i am wary of a switch. Since chezinu cannot use his power again killing geript could be more beneficial if he does flip scum since he might have a role. But what if he flips 3rd party? We know chezinu cannot be 3rd party and if we kill scum they will lose KP. Because of this i don't think switching is worth the risk. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On March 02 2013 23:41 layabout wrote: why the hell is a 142 day2 thread in the yellow? | ||
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geript
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 03 2013 04:00 layabout wrote: Btw if a thread has not been posted in for (i think it's 4 hours) then the folder by it turns from red to yellow. It's absurd that it would happen in this game. Hence the complaining last night that the atmosphere was abysmal. I think it was like 3-4 people for 8 hours+ | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 03 2013 04:01 geript wrote: Nope, wrong. If you think I'm scum, I've already pointed out that you should kill me today then. Alright, your attitude has been made very clear. I'm not going to get baited however and 1) my vote is staying on Chez for today, and 2) I think discussion needs to be moved off of geript one way or the other. People need to decide so we can move on, please. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 03 2013 03:50 geript wrote: Because some people are more focused on jerking each other off and picking on newbies than anything else. I can't wait until I get to be a vig, I'm only going to shoot out of spite. That's hardly happening in this game. Accusing you is not "picking on you". You can be spiteful or if you are town you could take it as a signal and try to keep improving your play. If you're going to keep playing mafia games just to spite people because you're bitter then I'll head right over to the banlist thread and argue until I'm blue that you're never allowed to play a game here again. How childish is that? This is actually pretty low on vet arrogance, you should see Ace play | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 03 2013 04:14 layabout wrote: geript if dr.h is scum why did Vayesh(bc) who we know is town and Dr.h have nearly identical reads? Why did he and VE, who we know is town, have some different reads? That's a retarded question. | ||
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