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On March 19 2012 06:18 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 06:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I'm kinda on the edge of my seat awaiting thoughts from several players. Come on guys, having 48 hours doesn't mean you have to take all 48 hours to read the thread. VE, what do you think of sloosh and his case on me? Does it look like a possible chainsaw defence to you?
It's a case, and it's in no way a chainsaw defense. A chainsaw defense implies that he was attacking you because you're attacking johnnywup, when it's clear from his posts that he's attacking you because he finds your behavior suspicious.
How do you think we should be spending our time xsk, if not voting for who we find suspicious? You made it clear that at this point in time that you're only really interested in voting for johnnywup to avoid a no-lynch, so is there anyone you'd like to lynch because you think they're scum?
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On March 19 2012 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 06:18 xsksc wrote:On March 19 2012 06:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah, I'm kinda on the edge of my seat awaiting thoughts from several players. Come on guys, having 48 hours doesn't mean you have to take all 48 hours to read the thread. VE, what do you think of sloosh and his case on me? Does it look like a possible chainsaw defence to you? It's a case, and it's in no way a chainsaw defense. A chainsaw defense implies that he was attacking you because you're attacking johnnywup, when it's clear from his posts that he's attacking you because he finds your behavior suspicious. How do you think we should be spending our time xsk, if not voting for who we find suspicious? You made it clear that at this point in time that you're only really interested in voting for johnnywup to avoid a no-lynch, so is there anyone you'd like to lynch because you think they're scum?
Nope not yet, looking forward to hearing from our inactives.
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On March 19 2012 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a case, and it's in no way a chainsaw defense. A chainsaw defense implies that he was attacking you because you're attacking johnnywup, when it's clear from his posts that he's attacking you because he finds your behavior suspicious.
So, VE, you don't think it's a chainsaw defense, but you aren't very clear about what you think of Sloosh's case. Is Xsksc looking scummy in your eyes because of it, then? Or are you just defending Sloosh?
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Indeed.
##Unvote: johnnywup
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On March 19 2012 06:45 Tobon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a case, and it's in no way a chainsaw defense. A chainsaw defense implies that he was attacking you because you're attacking johnnywup, when it's clear from his posts that he's attacking you because he finds your behavior suspicious. So, VE, you don't think it's a chainsaw defense, but you aren't very clear about what you think of Sloosh's case. Is Xsksc looking scummy in your eyes because of it, then? Or are you just defending Sloosh?
I'm withholding my thoughts on the case until I see an adequate defense of it.
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On March 19 2012 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Indeed.
##Unvote: johnnywup
Mind explaining the change of heart?
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We are suspicious of Tobon but wish to see more posts from him before making a judgement that we can agree upon.
I am curious about what VE learned from his exchange with Nemesis since Nemesis speaks wise words that do not help us find scum.
/laya
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It's not a change of heart, only a change of vote.
I'm making dinner and lurking, that's what you get from me right now.
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On March 19 2012 06:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 06:45 Tobon wrote:On March 19 2012 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's a case, and it's in no way a chainsaw defense. A chainsaw defense implies that he was attacking you because you're attacking johnnywup, when it's clear from his posts that he's attacking you because he finds your behavior suspicious. So, VE, you don't think it's a chainsaw defense, but you aren't very clear about what you think of Sloosh's case. Is Xsksc looking scummy in your eyes because of it, then? Or are you just defending Sloosh? I'm withholding my thoughts on the case until I see an adequate defense of it.
I believe my defense has been more than adequate and I do not regret my "behaviour" at all.
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Then I'll comment. In a bit. Burgers are a finesse recipe, they will not wait.
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Ok this inactivity is rather disalarming, 24 hours have passed, and we have quite a few lurkers. What do you guys say we put some pressure on the lurkers? That is mainly snarf, probulous, sandroba, and to an extent jackal58.
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Yup. It really is about to be that time. *sigh*
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On March 19 2012 06:51 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote:
We are suspicious of Tobon but wish to see more posts from him before making a judgement that we can agree upon. Tha't fine. And what are your thoughts about VE's vote and then unvote for Johnnywup? And which, out of Sloosh and Xsksc do you think makes the better case?
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On March 19 2012 06:15 Tobon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 04:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
That being said, Tobon planning to just bandwagon is scummy. We need more posts from him, and also need lurkers to stop lurking. I hate lurkers. I'm looking at you, snarfs, Toad, sandroba. I'd be happy to post more. What more would you like me to talk about? And what I said was that if it came down to it, that I'd rather bandwagon than allow a no-lynch, because I believe a no-lynch to be a big waste of time. You'll notice that I haven't actually voted for or tried to push the case against anyone with lynch votes yet. But yes, if just as the current example, Johnnywup has the most votes but no majority and we're near the end of the day, I'd add my vote to try to get a lynch rather than leaving a no-lynch.
I want to know your thoughts. Who are you finding scummy? What do you think of the current discussion? Even if you don't trust your reads, it doesn't mean that they won't give insight for other people.
And you said:
On March 18 2012 15:54 Tobon wrote:
I think we'll get the most real solid info out of the voting for day 1, as long as we avoid a no-lynch. So I plan to bandwagon on whomever can get close to enough votes. All your reads are likely to be better than mine, and that way I can hopefully prove my town-itude by being a deciding vote on a scum slaying.
You're looking to bandwagon on a (hopefully) scum target, and you hope it will improve your towniness.
Also, it's halfway through the day, not almost end of day.
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Hey. Let's lynch jackal just for kicks. Jonnywup I'm pretty sure is town. I kinda think VE is town too and I'm expecting him to carry me this game if his reads are half as good as they were in storm mafia. I'm confirmed town masoned with jcarl. Sup.
Vote: Jackal
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Just finished up my gaming session, will write something up within 2 hours.
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On March 19 2012 07:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I want to know your thoughts. Who are you finding scummy? What do you think of the current discussion? Even if you don't trust your reads, it doesn't mean that they won't give insight for other people. Initially, I thought that VE was pressuring Johnny to gain info, and even though I find Johnny's response a null read (can't tell whether it's newbie town or newbie scum - I can identify with his reaction being a newb myself either way), that seemed good townie behavior.
However, the way in which he has now backed off and unvoted, as well as defending Sloosh against a charge of chainsawing, without a whole lot of _there_ there, and just generally controlling the conversation, makes me wonder if he's pulling the strings here. What if Johnny is newbie scum, and VE is also scum? VE pushes a little too hard, gets some of the rest of us to defend, and never really intends Johnny's lynch at all? He gets a lot of time spent, and if Johnny isn't lynched the town gains nothing, whereas if Johnny is lynched, VE gets a lot of credit for the success of his "random" accusation. It seems like a clever win-win he might have built.
That seems like an awful lot of paranoia on my part, though. It's much simpler to just assume that scum is hiding amongst the lurkers rather than the scum actually controlling conversation from the start.
In short, I find VE scummiest of the active posters so far, but a lot of my suspicion remains on the lurkers.
You're looking to bandwagon on a (hopefully) scum target, and you hope it will improve your towniness.
Also, it's halfway through the day, not almost end of day. Yup, which is why I haven't voted yet.
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On March 19 2012 07:19 sandroba wrote:
Hey. Let's lynch jackal just for kicks. Jonnywup I'm pretty sure is town. I kinda think VE is town too and I'm expecting him to carry me this game if his reads are half as good as they were in storm mafia. I'm confirmed town masoned with jcarl. Sup.
Vote: Jackal
Oooh you're finally here. jcarl, want to confirm that claim?
And isn't that kind of contradictory? You say that Jonnywup is town and you expect VE to carry you through the game even though he thought jonnywup is scum?
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@tobon,
you think VE is scum because hes dictating the conversation?
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