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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#241
sup town, let's hunt some scum.
Computer says mafia
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#242
On May 31 2011 05:25 Kurumi wrote:
Cmon,the Joker was never on the "bad guys side" he did what he pleased to. 3rd Party Role imo.


You may be right robin, but to understand the Joker we must first understand his past deeds. We can make a educated guess from there exactly what his goal will be.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#243
On May 31 2011 05:30 sandroba wrote:
Decon, is it alright if we say who we designed the role for in the thread?


Not until Day 2, and even then its a bad idea to do a massclaim.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
May 30 2011 20:31 GMT
#244
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.


1. This will not help us clear up confusion
2. Even role claims will not prove alignment. Roles were picked before alignments were known. This game will have to be won on analysis alone.
3. Do not mass roleclaim.
4. Do not fucking mass roleclaim.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
May 30 2011 20:32 GMT
#245
@Sandroba

I do not fully agree with the first idea. I don't think we should discuss the type of roles we gave out or who we gave out the role to as it allows scum to narrow out who gave them the role. This is bad for the town as as long as the scum do not know who gave them the role, they are not in a position to fake claim.

Once scum knows who gave them the role, they can wait till that person dies or take that person out and fake claim after that.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 30 2011 20:32 GMT
#246
Day post contains no information relating to roles or alignments present in the game.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
May 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#247
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.


Oh yes, genius idea, let's tell mafia who they should shoot so they can get away with fake-claiming ANYTHING THEY CAN IMAGINE.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 30 2011 20:33 GMT
#248
On May 31 2011 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Gm isn't so bad as to instant rush to defend his mafia pal this fast into a game. At least, I would hope not.


But BC is bad enough to instant rush to defend his mafia pal GM.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 30 2011 20:34 GMT
#249
Not claim, just to say who we designed the role for, not what the role is. Still only day 2?
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
May 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#250
I find it funny how people get upset about 1 little comment.
"He hinted that he indeed has a role. LYNCH HIM"

Ah and now that the game begun it´s time to stop posting nonsense. Not being excited about my role shouldn´t proof anything really. I mean we are 33 people who each gave someone else a role. Is it that hard to believe that I got a role that I do not find exciting?

Also this thread moves on pretty fast
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#251
GM speaks truth about Mataza, this aint got nothing to do with alignment, Mataza just likes weird plans.

Don't lynch a bro for a bad plan though.

Also, I think you need to chill a bit with claiming who wrote each role. I dunnoh how that'd be good for town, cause if someone is lying he can be called out on it anyway.

Let's just chill a bit, and see where this takes us.

Can I get a brofist!

#Fistpound: GMarshal
Computer says mafia
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#252
I think that we should claim not who we designed the role for, but what purpose the role has. This doesn't put the person with the role in any danger, and gives us a rough idea of what we have to work with. It could be as simple as

[ ] KP
[ ] Information
[ ] survivability (extra lives)
[ ] unlisted

check all that apply.

That's vague enough that nobody should be able to tell that they got the role that you're pointing out, but specific enough to be useful. I for one would like to know how many roles with DTesque powers there are.

thoughts?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#253
Can you guys read??????? I'm not saying to claim the fucking role, just let us know what player you designed the role for, not the actual role!!!!

How does this help mafia?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#254
Yes, knowing the pick order doesn't do much to help town, but does a lot to help scum. If town sees that the person they picked for is fake-claiming, they need to use their discretion on what to do. They can call them out on it right away, or maybe the role they gave is very useful for town, and shouldn't be claimed, or the fake claim will draw something the real role would want, like a hit. It's entirely situational, and up to the person who gave the role to know what to do, in what situation. A list of who gave something to who, just lets mafia set up even more confusion, and makes it easier to fake-claim.
you gotta dance
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
May 30 2011 20:37 GMT
#255
On May 31 2011 05:34 sandroba wrote:
Not claim, just to say who we designed the role for, not what the role is. Still only day 2?


Yep, wait until day 2. You are not allowed reveal anything about what role you gave or who you gave it to until then.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 30 2011 20:38 GMT
#256
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.



Knowing someones role says nothing of their alignment. For instance, all of the mafia theoretically could have made roles for each other and claim they gave the role to so and so. Knowing this does not mean we would know they are part of the clowns gang. I say this because no one knows where their role was placed in terms of town or mafia. You could suspect possibly, but never knwo for sure. Without hunting down the criminals we will get no where.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 30 2011 20:38 GMT
#257
On May 31 2011 05:36 sandroba wrote:
Can you guys read??????? I'm not saying to claim the fucking role, just let us know what player you designed the role for, not the actual role!!!!

How does this help mafia?

Because there is a strong meta sand, it can hint at who has the best roles.

Let me ask it this way. How does this plan of yours help the town, exactly?
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 30 2011 20:38 GMT
#258
@varpulis I dissagree completely, and you should know better.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 30 2011 20:38 GMT
#259
I dunnoh Varp bro...

For now I think we oughta just treat this like a full game of vanillas v vanillas, and base our shit on analysis. I know I'd be screwing my guy over royally if I disclosed the nature of the role I designed for him, but only if he's fellow town.

So yeah man... guess we just gotta roll with analysis.
Computer says mafia
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 30 2011 20:38 GMT
#260
sand, why would your plan be at all useful? I really don't know why we'd want to do it, because I don't see it accompishing anything. Yes, I understand that you don't want to claim the roles we gave, just who we made the role for.

Could you please explain?
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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