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On May 31 2011 05:35 Palmar wrote:
GM speaks truth about Mataza, this aint got nothing to do with alignment, Mataza just likes weird plans.
Don't lynch a bro for a bad plan though.
Also, I think you need to chill a bit with claiming who wrote each role. I dunnoh how that'd be good for town, cause if someone is lying he can be called out on it anyway.
Let's just chill a bit, and see where this takes us.
Can I get a brofist!
#Fistpound: GMarshal
I sense something strange going on here.
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On May 31 2011 05:35 Palmar wrote:
#Fistpound: GMarshal
Sure thing bro
#Fistpound: Palmar
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On May 31 2011 05:33 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Gm isn't so bad as to instant rush to defend his mafia pal this fast into a game. At least, I would hope not. But BC is bad enough to instant rush to defend his mafia pal GM.
Pff, i'd sell him out to the highest bidder.
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also, you gonna leave me hangin' GM?
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oh cool, sorry, thread moves fast
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are there any good reasons why roles should be claimed / say who we designed roles for / who designed for us which exist in this game which doesnt exist in other games? and why would your make yourself target if you are to say to someone you made their role :-p
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yo node bro, feelin' left out?
cause I got love for everyone, don't worry 'bout man.
#Fistpound: Node
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I'm sorry but could someone explain how all of town saying who they gave their role to helps us in any way?
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On May 31 2011 05:36 sandroba wrote:
Can you guys read??????? I'm not saying to claim the fucking role, just let us know what player you designed the role for, not the actual role!!!!
How does this help mafia?
Let's say, player A designed a role for player B. There's also player C.
Player A is town, Player B is mafia.
Mafia shoots Player A, Player B may now claim whatever he wants (Literally, in this set-up).
Player A is town, Player B is town, Player C is mafia.
Mafia shoots Player A, Player B can claim, but it is not verifiable. Also, WIFOM for being the first situation, as in, more confusion for town.
Or is this wrong?
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On May 31 2011 05:39 stefftastiq wrote:
are there any good reasons why roles should be claimed / say who we designed roles for / who designed for us which exist in this game which doesnt exist in other games? and why would your make yourself target if you are to say to someone you made their role :-p
There honestly isn't a good reason at this point. All it would do is clutter the thread with discussion over things that you can't easily pin a mafia out of.
I said this in pyp3 and I shall say it again here. Knowing someones role doesn't determine if they are town or not. Their alignment does. We hunt for scum with analysis and whatever means people gave to players that flipped town. Past that arguing otherwise is wasteful. Lets catch scum, not ghosts.
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On May 31 2011 05:41 redFF wrote:
I'm sorry but could someone explain how all of town saying who they gave their role to helps us in any way?
I don't think anyone except sandroba is alright with that plan at this point.
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My plan could get fucked up bigtime by scum fake claiming, just like any other. I think that it's a better alternative to sandroba's plan, which I don't like.
Why don't we ditch them both? Neither is very good, I think. Later on, they could be more useful. Until crazy shit starts happening, i'm going to treat this like we're all vanilla, like Palmar suggested.
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Actually by saying who you made a role for makes you a target, if you made a role for mafia.
That´s the easiest way they can lie about their role.
And guys, last game was last game. Just because I died on a risky plan no one liked doesn´t mean I do it all the time.
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On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.
I have forseen this, so I have assigned boy wonder to deal with this problem. I will give him the cue so we can sort things out. Your identity is precious, and your most important tool.
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On May 31 2011 05:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:39 stefftastiq wrote:
are there any good reasons why roles should be claimed / say who we designed roles for / who designed for us which exist in this game which doesnt exist in other games? and why would your make yourself target if you are to say to someone you made their role :-p
There honestly isn't a good reason at this point. All it would do is clutter the thread with discussion over things that you can't easily pin a mafia out of. I said this in pyp3 and I shall say it again here. Knowing someones role doesn't determine if they are town or not. Their alignment does. We hunt for scum with analysis and whatever means people gave to players that flipped town. Past that arguing otherwise is wasteful. Lets catch scum, not ghosts.
*sniff sniff*
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On May 31 2011 05:37 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:34 sandroba wrote:
Not claim, just to say who we designed the role for, not what the role is. Still only day 2? Yep, wait until day 2. You are not allowed reveal anything about what role you gave or who you gave it to until then.
well that settles that. lets move on to some relevant discussion:
as anyone in SNMMII will tell you, Mataza's Acts much more like the joker, despite his wishing he was batman. you wont get much to analyze off it...
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On May 31 2011 05:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Yes, knowing the pick order doesn't do much to help town, but does a lot to help scum. If town sees that the person they picked for is fake-claiming, they need to use their discretion on what to do. They can call them out on it right away, or maybe the role they gave is very useful for town, and shouldn't be claimed, or the fake claim will draw something the real role would want, like a hit. It's entirely situational, and up to the person who gave the role to know what to do, in what situation. A list of who gave something to who, just lets mafia set up even more confusion, and makes it easier to fake-claim.
That's simple to solve. Town should NOT fake role claim. Period. You either not claim or claim your role right.
For how this plan helps town: After a couple kills/lynches we won't be able to keep track of who knows which players role. If we have a day1 list there's no room for people fake confirming / lying about someone else's role after some time has passed in the thread an no one claimed to know it.
We can also take role claims that cannot be confirmed (perso is dead) with a grain of salt.
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Varp your plan is horrrrrrible. The reason is it makes it super easy for the mafia to pick out targets. They will hit the people who say they have information roles and avoid the ones who have survival. Come on common sense here.
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On May 31 2011 05:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 31 2011 05:39 stefftastiq wrote:
are there any good reasons why roles should be claimed / say who we designed roles for / who designed for us which exist in this game which doesnt exist in other games? and why would your make yourself target if you are to say to someone you made their role :-p
There honestly isn't a good reason at this point. All it would do is clutter the thread with discussion over things that you can't easily pin a mafia out of. I said this in pyp3 and I shall say it again here. Knowing someones role doesn't determine if they are town or not. Their alignment does. We hunt for scum with analysis and whatever means people gave to players that flipped town. Past that arguing otherwise is wasteful. Lets catch scum, not ghosts. *sniff sniff*
Hello scooby *opens a box of scooby snacks*
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On May 31 2011 05:41 Palmar wrote:
yo node bro, feelin' left out?
cause I got love for everyone, don't worry 'bout man.
#Fistpound: Node
I hear ya bro.
#Fistpound: Palmar
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