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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 10:10:09
June 12 2011 10:09 GMT
#2201
On June 12 2011 19:08 SEANSYE wrote:
Wow desperation hidden expansion



How is it desperation nothing has happened in this game so far ?
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
June 12 2011 10:10 GMT
#2202
On June 12 2011 19:09 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:03 Juliette wrote:
g2/3

Game 4
(P)MC <Metalopolis> lovecd

MC 9 as red, lcd as blue at 12
...close position!

5:00
lovecd goes 4 gate
MC has 3 gates (2 making), has a sentry making, doesnt know that hes being 4 gated

6:00
MC has 4th gate making instead of a council O-o. hes ahead in econ, MC remakes his coincil

7:00
lcd takes the 6:00 third as his hidden expo as both go blink


9:00

MC blinks out of his base, kills a lot of lcds stalkers
MC breaks out and puts a cannon

10:00

MC blinks up the ramp, a cannon was up but is down now, lcd ggs
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 12 2011 10:11 GMT
#2203
Another game for MC what a beast, hes not going to have any of that hidden nexus shenanigans.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 10:11:33
June 12 2011 10:11 GMT
#2204
LoveCD throwing it away by staying at the front of MC's base without blink ...
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
June 12 2011 10:11 GMT
#2205
On June 12 2011 19:09 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:08 SEANSYE wrote:
Wow desperation hidden expansion



How is it desperation nothing has happened in this game so far ?


Because he knows MC is better than him.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
June 12 2011 10:11 GMT
#2206
Lovecd is playing so risky, I guess he feels he can't beat MC without taking these risky expansions.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 10:11 GMT
#2207
holy shit they still havent turned off the wagering on stars war

maybe they wont notice and my 300 euro bet goes through lmfao
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 12 2011 10:12 GMT
#2208
On June 12 2011 19:11 Hierarch wrote:
Lovecd is playing so risky, I guess he feels he can't beat MC without taking these risky expansions.

Might have worked if he dint show his low stalker count to MC
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
June 12 2011 10:12 GMT
#2209
How old is lovecd?
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
June 12 2011 10:12 GMT
#2210
Now he has truly taken the title of best pvp'er, after beating the top european and chinese protoss'.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
June 12 2011 10:12 GMT
#2211
On June 12 2011 19:11 ChickenLips wrote:
holy shit they still havent turned off the wagering on stars war

maybe they wont notice and my 300 euro bet goes through lmfao

lol let me know that would be hilarious!
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#2212
On June 12 2011 19:12 Nocteo wrote:
Now he has truly taken the title of best pvp'er, after beating the top european and chinese protoss'.


when did anyone say that MC wasn't the best PvPer in the world?
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#2213
On June 12 2011 19:09 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:05 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:57 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote:
MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins.

That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making.


no it was micro, from the initial defense, to the 4gate defense, to the 2 base defense with the FFs, and the final engagement at the watch tower it was ALL micro.

MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP

I didn't watch the entire game but the final battles weren't about micro whatsoever, MC had a better concave, better upgrades and better army organization and that was it, period.

....... you do realize that top level players don't just 1 a and just use a few abilities right? there's a lot of target firing, blinking, and obviously positioning like you said and that IS micro; both these guys are going at 300 apm legitimate apm in those fights

there were so many times that game where MC outmicro'd lovecd REALLY hard when he had a worse army

I don't doubt that, all I said is that from the point I started watching (when lovecd got his third up) the battles weren't really won because of micro at all and how is it that guys like White-Ra win against the so called god of protoss micro if PVP is all about micro?And please don't lie to yourselves, white-ra doesn't even have enough time to train his micro up to the korean level.

what does this have to do with ANYTHING


MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP
Ehhhhhhh, nothing at all, dude.

so you're just completely contradicting yourself? ok, do whatever you want then
BaLoO-
Profile Joined January 2011
France318 Posts
June 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#2214
On June 12 2011 19:05 starcraft911 wrote:
sc2 has the weirdest way of creating these scenarios where X race appears op. GSL has 4 T's in the final 4, this has 4 P's in the final 4... Kind of interesting showing how chaotic the scene is right now... pretty cool.


Well the thing is that a large part of this tournament has been played something like 2 months ago, and protoss players are now doing way worse. Pretty interesting however, you're right :p
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
June 12 2011 10:13 GMT
#2215
On June 12 2011 19:13 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:12 Nocteo wrote:
Now he has truly taken the title of best pvp'er, after beating the top european and chinese protoss'.


when did anyone say that MC wasn't the best PvPer in the world?


Noone has but now he has legit proof.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
June 12 2011 10:14 GMT
#2216
On June 12 2011 19:07 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:04 Dommk wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:02 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:00 Dommk wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:56 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote:
MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins.

That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making.

Yeah, failing a cannon rush, letting him getting up an expansion and get like 30 supply ahead... great decision making.

You act like it is easy. PvP is the one match up where both sides have the least information on each other. The map is quite literally dark, your only source of information is whatever unit you can sneak and having amazing game sense and knowledge. Making the right decision in PvP is one of the hardest things to do.

You list off dot points and act as if any other Protoss could have done better, its hilarious.

That's not what I was saying. I only meant that it wasn't MC's decision making that won him the game.

Then you are being incredibly blunt. There are a lot of things that won MC that game, but saying his decision making didn't make a large part of it is being ignorant. Blink helped him win battles, but it takes a lot more than that to win the game in mid/late game PvP

MC's decision making that game is what gave LoveCD the advantage, and his micro is what saved him. He was down like 30 supply, so how can you claim his decision making is what won him the game?

Because decision making extends much further than just the fights. i.e MC delayed LoveCD's attack when he tried to engage in the mid game, how many Protoss would have pulled that off? That isn't micro, you need a good idea when and where your opponent will engage and what you will need to hold it, MC delayed the attack for around 2mins but it involved much more than just meeting LoveCD's army at either side.

PvP favors the defender in the midgame, supply leads can be somewhat misleading in figuring the winner, especially when your opponent has a Zealot heavy force and you have forcefields.

To be able to come back from a deficit requires much more than micro, you need to make the right decisions along side it. Putting him in the position for his micro to capitalize is a difficult thing to do, choosing when to engage, where to position, what to get, knowing your timings...that is 80% of the fight in PvP as it can end so quickly.
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
June 12 2011 10:14 GMT
#2217
On June 12 2011 19:12 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:11 ChickenLips wrote:
holy shit they still havent turned off the wagering on stars war

maybe they wont notice and my 300 euro bet goes through lmfao

lol let me know that would be hilarious!


they probably will notice some abnormalities when typing in the results, so i'll just get refunded my wagers,

but maybe not haha
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Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 10:16:07
June 12 2011 10:15 GMT
#2218
game 5:

MC <shattered temple> lcd

MC is blue spawning at 3, lcd red at 6
close positions once more!
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
pirates
Profile Joined October 2010
United States701 Posts
June 12 2011 10:15 GMT
#2219
So much close by ground zzzz
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
June 12 2011 10:16 GMT
#2220
On June 12 2011 19:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 19:09 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:07 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:05 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 19:00 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:57 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:55 ChickenLips wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote:
MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins.

That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making.


no it was micro, from the initial defense, to the 4gate defense, to the 2 base defense with the FFs, and the final engagement at the watch tower it was ALL micro.

MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP

I didn't watch the entire game but the final battles weren't about micro whatsoever, MC had a better concave, better upgrades and better army organization and that was it, period.

....... you do realize that top level players don't just 1 a and just use a few abilities right? there's a lot of target firing, blinking, and obviously positioning like you said and that IS micro; both these guys are going at 300 apm legitimate apm in those fights

there were so many times that game where MC outmicro'd lovecd REALLY hard when he had a worse army

I don't doubt that, all I said is that from the point I started watching (when lovecd got his third up) the battles weren't really won because of micro at all and how is it that guys like White-Ra win against the so called god of protoss micro if PVP is all about micro?And please don't lie to yourselves, white-ra doesn't even have enough time to train his micro up to the korean level.

what does this have to do with ANYTHING


MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP
Ehhhhhhh, nothing at all, dude.

so you're just completely contradicting yourself? ok, do whatever you want then

The bold part was a quote from Chickenlips that you seem to have missed, dude, and apparently you missed it again, ironic how you manage to misread stuff and still have the balls to keep calling people retarded, because that's what you're doing.
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