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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 26 2013 19:45 GMT
#181
That's what I'm saying. Why lynch someone, not for a lack of content but for not fucking posting. They'll be modkilled and we're wasting our time.
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 19:50 GMT
#182
I share the sentiment about stormtemplar
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 26 2013 19:51 GMT
#183
I'm not sure they will even get modkilled...

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled. BE ACTIVE OR FACE MY ETERNAL WRATH!


Everyone has fulfilled that. Can we get some clarification mods, will Blurry/xIvanJ be modkilled or not?
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#184
they have to vote, so they will be either replaced or modkilled
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 26 2013 19:54 GMT
#185
EBWOP: oh they aren't going to vote probably so they will get modkilled, my bad! In that case I will wait a little longer. I'm not feeling stormtemplar as scum still. Jonnylaw can you please elaborate on why you think he's scummy?
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 19:58 GMT
#186
back to stormtemplar, he makes a post about how he didn't kow what to say,
Secondly, I've been trying to contribute but I haven't had much in the way of reads previously. At the time I really wasn't feeling anyone as scum, and Zaragon pretty much summed up my views.


then he tries to get some profil by disagreeing on playerboy
However, as to your point about me just joining Zaragon on playerboy, no, not at all. As a matter of fact, I'm not really feeling zaragon's read on him. I'm not getting solid town vibes out of him at all. He's contributed rather minimally. (7 of his posts are 1-2 lines with maybe a quote.)


then later playboy makes a post about everyone with mediocre content, more summary then analysis and stormtemplar is
+ Show Spoiler +

Darn it playerboy, why did you have to go and post all that good analysis and make me look like an idiot for saying you don't post much useful information.


I found that suspicious right away so I asked him right away what he thought were the good parts, and no answere.

like wounderboy said, and playerboy agreed
+ Show Spoiler +
I appreciate it, and I really like that you don't trust me right of the bat just because I wrote a massive wall of text, I would have questioned you if you weren't being cautious.


should not same be said about stormtemplar, that's why I call it fake participation and scummy

##vote stormtemplar
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 26 2013 20:00 GMT
#187
Also, yeah, it's better to talk about something irrelevant right now than it is to just not talk about anything at all.

He said this on day one. Fine, good, we should be discussing something. But it seems like he's stuck with that logic throughout his entire posting history.

If he is not scum he's definitely not helping the town out in any of his posts. He reiterates what other people have said, and says vaguely I agree or disagree. He makes no opinions of his own and kind of rambles about inactive players.

I want to know what he really thinks or why I should feel otherwise.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
September 26 2013 20:14 GMT
#188
On September 27 2013 04:51 Balla24 wrote:Can we get some clarification mods, will Blurry/xIvanJ be modkilled or not?


No comment. Such decisions are made after the deadline, not beforehand.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
September 26 2013 20:17 GMT
#189
He also said this

Simply going inactive is a classic inexperienced mafia behavior, and at best he's an inactive townie, which is not good for us. Obviously he's done nothing scummy, but doing nothing is itself kinda scummy. He needs to show up and post so we can get some reads.


Which is exactly what he's done. Kind of interesting that he would say that and then 1 post later disappear. I'm starting to get convinced but not fully. I think I need to hear his defense to see how he reacts to this pressure. I'm with you guys though, and again I'll be here till voting deadline so I hope we get some posts. It's starting to get too late to call though tbh.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 26 2013 20:36 GMT
#190
As I said, I'm open to changing my vote to one of the missing players if stormtemplar redeems himself before the vote deadline.

Is it possible to move future voting deadlines ahead two hours? I think quite a few people are at work during this time. I'm not familiar with the specifics on policies such as this one. Thanks.
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 20:37 GMT
#191
Strong town read on:

Me, Bella24, Zaragon, onlywounderboy,

good:
Baja Blood, Jonny Law

Suspicious
Stormtemplar,Mluneth (100% of his posts are suspicious, but that's so over the top that it would be odd if he was mafia)

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a playerboy & stormtemplar mafia.


Afk: Bereft, Blurry, xIvan, Jayte

Actually I think Jaytes post 2nd and last post
The last point you made would only be true if all the scums are active and are not lurkers.

makes him even more suspicious, like he's claiming mafia.
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 20:39 GMT
#192
sorry for the theory crafting, I am a bit bored right now =P
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 26 2013 20:44 GMT
#193
On September 27 2013 04:05 JonnyLaw wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Blurry] +
His first post was good but not enough to give any read. I really hope he contributes something soon because his lack of participation is hurting the game and his chances of surviving the lynch.


+ Show Spoiler [playerboy345] +
He's been active in trying to move discussion forward throughout the game. Feels okay to me for now.


+ Show Spoiler [heavenz] +
heavenz willingness to question people's reads puts him out there more than he may want at this point if he was scum. Again, seems all right to keep around for now. He's contributing and trying to force slips out of people.


+ Show Spoiler [onlywonderboy] +
owb I've read most of your LOL material. You can write and critically think. WHAT did you like about playerboy's analysis in particular? What are your opinions on the other twelve players in this game? I'm not liking the read I'm getting here.


+ Show Spoiler [stormtemplar] +
stormtemplar is looking scummy to me. He writes a lot and yet says nothing. He's basically said he agrees zaragon might be town, he doesn't know about playerboy and death to all lurkers while telling others to contribute more to the thread. He's trying to misdirect and confuse discussion rather than forwarding it which I do not care for.


+ Show Spoiler [Zaragon] +
Zaragon has been making similar reads to my own throughout the game and pushing for strong participation. He definitely feels more town than many others in the game. His willingness to focus on particular people could mean he's trying to get attention away from himself and the rest of the mafia but for now it's too early to say. I give him the benefit of the doubt.


+ Show Spoiler [Balla24] +
Balla24 reads fairly town. He's been agreeing with heavenz and Zaragon whom I also like for the town. I could be getting fooled here and there are two mafia in their threesome. For now, there's better options to lynch though.


+ Show Spoiler [xIvanJ is useless] +
One outta 13 aint too bad boys. Hopefully our replacement can play.


+ Show Spoiler [Jayte] +
Could be lurking as a mafia. I just can't read him from the level of content he's put out.


+ Show Spoiler [MLuneth] +
I want to call this guy scum from my gut. I really, really want to do it. But re-reading his posts just make me think he's a bit hasty and not scum at all. There are grammatical errors, shortened words and that half written post he managed to post. I dunno, he doesn't feel like mafia at this point in the game.


+ Show Spoiler [BajaBlood] +
Hasn't said a lot. Could be leaning mafia, but he's okay for now.


+ Show Spoiler [bereft] +
I know he said he'd be busy but why is no one mentioning his inactivity? Still, not the best candidate for a lynch.



Okay here's my summation. Blurry, bereft (who did say he would be busy), Jayte and xIvanJ are inactive. I still think we should look for a better lynch candidate for today.

I like zaragon, balla24 and heavenz contribution but I might be getting fooled because they seem to agree quite often. But hell, they're reasonable opinions. Time to see where people cast their votes.

I've read through stormtemplar's posts multiple times now. He literally says nothing in them.

Show nested quote +
Firstly, I hardly think the "Lurker topic" was irrelevant. It was the discussion starter and what was going on in the thread at the time. I hardly think you can throw that away as, rather undercutting your point about my lack of contribution.


Clogging conversation after being accused of being scum.

Show nested quote +
However, as to your point about me just joining Zaragon on playerboy, no, not at all. As a matter of fact, I'm not really feeling zaragon's read on him. I'm not getting solid town vibes out of him at all. He's contributed rather minimally. (7 of his posts are 1-2 lines with maybe a quote.)


I disagree and he's just trying to change the focus away from himself.

Until he puts up a better defense of himself #vote stormtemplar



I don't see where your Stormtemplar read comes from, nothing much was happening and he commented on my reads, adding his own. I do want to hear more from him, but people contributing well (and I think he is, relatively speaking, I don't mind thick paragraphs) are usually not good day 1 lynches. I want more to read him on, and he will give enough to see reasonably clearly whether he's scum when we have flips and roles to go on.

Hmm BajaBlood's vote is a cop-out I think, on none of the current targets. Hard to read busy people (since they could be busy deliberately as scum). Will look at him more as well.

I'll pattern read MLuneth again too; too comfortable to be scum was enough for me to explain the way he posts, at first, but then thinking about the structured post that basically just disagreed with pro-town play as a read, he's most scummy to me. I'll pattern read him again, but I still think he's a good lynch, up there with Blurry
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#194
I wouldn't like to vote on Bereft or Blurry day1, I am a bit biased towards them, because I think they can play decently, and I think if either of them was scum then even then they would play smarter.

I don't have the same impression of Jayt and ivan.

Anyway 4 afk's is just crazy.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 26 2013 20:57 GMT
#195
--- Nuked ---
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
September 26 2013 21:01 GMT
#196
I'll unvote Jayte for now, incase he gets modkilled in which case I don't want to waste my day 1 vote on him. I originally voted him to pressure him and get him to talk but it seems like he doesn't care or can't participate for whatever reason.

##Unvote Jayte


On September 27 2013 05:37 heavenz wrote:
Strong town read on:

Me, Bella24, Zaragon, onlywounderboy,

good:
Baja Blood, Jonny Law

Suspicious
Stormtemplar,Mluneth (100% of his posts are suspicious, but that's so over the top that it would be odd if he was mafia)

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a playerboy & stormtemplar mafia.


Afk: Bereft, Blurry, xIvan, Jayte

Actually I think Jaytes post 2nd and last post
Show nested quote +
The last point you made would only be true if all the scums are active and are not lurkers.

makes him even more suspicious, like he's claiming mafia.


Please do explain your town read on onlywonderboy,

On September 27 2013 04:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
Unfortunately I have to be getting to work, so I'll miss any last minute deliberations. I'm going to have to ##Vote: Blurry. He's had plenty of time to defend himself so I'm not sure a least minute appeal would change my mind. He sorta flew under the radar for me, but people have pointed out his lack of contribution I agree it seems problematic.

@JonnyLaw I'll respond to your inquiry when I have more time. Short version is I liked that he was putting the time into profile everyone, not that I really agreed with all the analysis. "Great" might have been too strong of a word I suppose.


He does a pretty last minute vote on Blurry, why? Because he hasn't defended himself yet. Guess who hasn't defended themselves yet other then Blurry: Jayte and xIvanJ, why not vote for them but for Blurry?Seems like he doesn't really care about who is lynched, as long as SOMEONE gets lynched. He really hasn't contributed alot to this thread so I disagree on your "strong" town read on him.


MLuneth... eh, could it be that he is just a dumb townie?(no offense) Sure he is suspicous but I don't see anything that SCREAMS scum to me. I'm willing to wait a little longer with him to see how his posting behaviour develops.


I also found it funny how you think I'm suspicious just because stormtemplar agrees with me lol. Honestly I would like to hear more on the stormremplar case because I feel like I'm missing something here, would greatly appreciate it if someone could point me to some of the scummy things he has done so far.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 26 2013 21:01 GMT
#197
Yeah the amount of AFKs in this game is quite discouraging. I'm sticking with storm as he's the only person I got a real read on but his last post makes me question if it's the right move with how much inactivity we have right now.

Myrzeth...I dunno he just plays oddly.
heavenz
Profile Joined August 2013
Austria301 Posts
September 26 2013 21:06 GMT
#198
myrzeth??? you're giving me nightmares
playerboy345
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands194 Posts
September 26 2013 21:15 GMT
#199
After rereading this:

On September 27 2013 04:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
Unfortunately I have to be getting to work, so I'll miss any last minute deliberations. I'm going to have to ##Vote: Blurry. He's had plenty of time to defend himself so I'm not sure a least minute appeal would change my mind. He sorta flew under the radar for me, but people have pointed out his lack of contribution I agree it seems problematic.

@JonnyLaw I'll respond to your inquiry when I have more time. Short version is I liked that he was putting the time into profile everyone, not that I really agreed with all the analysis. "Great" might have been too strong of a word I suppose.



I feel onlywonderboy is the person I'm getting highest scum read from.
He likes that I put time into a post but he says that he didn't agree with all the analysis, then why not elaborate on what you didn't agree with?

He leaves with a vote on Blurry and says he'll post when he has more time, it's been two hours and he hasn't posted anything yet so my vote is on him.

##Vote onlywonderboy
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
September 26 2013 21:19 GMT
#200
On September 27 2013 06:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
Yeah the amount of AFKs in this game is quite discouraging. I'm sticking with storm as he's the only person I got a real read on but his last post makes me question if it's the right move with how much inactivity we have right now.

Myrzeth...I dunno he just plays oddly.

myrzeth?? what game are you playing?? also sorry guys, I promise I will catch up on the thread and post once home tonight. has blurry posted anything since his day 1 post?
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