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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 16 2011 12:48 GMT
#181
Yeah, this is too discriminating. Either gender at any age can drive recklessly.
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Skrammen
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway195 Posts
November 16 2011 13:08 GMT
#182
Well, I nearly lost a friend of mine when a drunk driver (He was somthing like 24) hit her in a front collision, so perhaps a alco-lock isnt a terrible idea.

But there are a lot of problems regarding the other measures they want to take, and I dont see them implementing them as they are now. I'd venture a guess that somthing like half of Norway's population live outside of the cities, were public transit is practically non-existant. Trains are expensive, because most people dont use it, and most people dont use trains because they are expensive. And if you do live on the countryside, you kinda need to get home after whatever you've been doing.

I live in a small community, and if I want to get home after a night of drinking, I need to get a lift from a buddy to get home. My parents have been kind enough to give me a lift more than once, but they cant always be there. And before they want to restrict things like this, they need to improve things like busses and trains on the countryside, which would probably be massivly expensive. Norway is quite big compared to how few live here, and there are so many villages hidden in some forest or whatever.

Another thing to consider is that during winter time, there is like 2 hours of sunlight in the northern parts of norway.

And lastly, as a young driver, you need lots of experience to be a good driver. I dont for a second believe that when your judgement center is fully evolved that you will be as good a driver as someone who has driven since they were 18. The roads of Norway for the most part are poor and narrow and lots of turns, crests and the likes, not to mention the ice. The driving education can be improved, sure, but I dont think the element of experience can at all be restricted nor avoided.
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Teoman
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway382 Posts
November 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#183
On November 16 2011 18:56 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 17:46 Teoman wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think one important experience that at least i have is that men in GENERAL drive more than women, therefore in theori should be better drivers, but should also be more prone to causing accidents.

From the experience that i have, women who drive alot do so without really caring about actually learning more or maintaining skill. They just drive to avoid walking/cycling/public transport.


Can we at least try not to be discriminating? Use statistics all you want, but don't add in "women only use their cars as a means to get to A to B, while men try to maintain their skills". The only non-discriminating thing in that post is that men generally drive more than women, which is a fact.


I only meant my own experience, Never meant to be discriminating
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NKsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden133 Posts
November 16 2011 16:02 GMT
#184
On November 16 2011 21:28 theBALLS wrote:
Norwegia why so lame? No point discussing, this ain't gonna work

"Norwegia" lol. Norway*
pzu
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden287 Posts
November 16 2011 16:09 GMT
#185
Alco lock should be demanded in all vehicles, all other points are a bit ridiculous imo!
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 16 2011 16:15 GMT
#186
I can't believe people are actually saying that mandatory breathalyzers on all cars sounds like a good idea. I'm just honestly at a loss for what to type here. We've come a long way from the Magna Carta.
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xCenasfu
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland143 Posts
November 16 2011 16:15 GMT
#187
Women shouldn't be allowed to park or drive backwards then..
HerroPreaseTN
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway71 Posts
November 16 2011 16:27 GMT
#188
On November 17 2011 01:15 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I can't believe people are actually saying that mandatory breathalyzers on all cars sounds like a good idea. I'm just honestly at a loss for what to type here. We've come a long way from the Magna Carta.


Elaborating why it would be such a bad idea, would be a nice start. Frankly, the only downside I see is that I can't wash my teeth with Listerine in the morning. And I never do that
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 16 2011 16:33 GMT
#189
On November 17 2011 01:27 HerroPreaseTN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 01:15 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I can't believe people are actually saying that mandatory breathalyzers on all cars sounds like a good idea. I'm just honestly at a loss for what to type here. We've come a long way from the Magna Carta.


Elaborating why it would be such a bad idea, would be a nice start. Frankly, the only downside I see is that I can't wash my teeth with Listerine in the morning. And I never do that


My mistake. More state control over the citizens' daily lives is probably always for the best. The ministry of transportation must ensure safer driving for us somehow. They should also install cameras into the vehicles to make sure that people aren't doing anything else dangerous, like texting, putting on make-up, eating. Or perhaps a mechanism to restrain the drivers hands to the wheel to prevent unsafe driving practices, that would be doubleplusgood. Of course, ideally there would be no privately owned vehicles, the ministry of transportation should eventually outlaw them. Mandatory public transportation for all citizens would be even safer, and the increased walking distances would be better for public health too! We are making progress, comrade.


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"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Moragon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States355 Posts
November 16 2011 16:43 GMT
#190
On November 17 2011 01:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 01:27 HerroPreaseTN wrote:
On November 17 2011 01:15 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I can't believe people are actually saying that mandatory breathalyzers on all cars sounds like a good idea. I'm just honestly at a loss for what to type here. We've come a long way from the Magna Carta.


Elaborating why it would be such a bad idea, would be a nice start. Frankly, the only downside I see is that I can't wash my teeth with Listerine in the morning. And I never do that


My mistake. More state control over the citizens' daily lives is probably always for the best. The ministry of transportation must ensure safer driving for us somehow. They should also install cameras into the vehicles to make sure that people aren't doing anything else dangerous, like texting, putting on make-up, eating. Or perhaps a mechanism to restrain the drivers hands to the wheel to prevent unsafe driving practices, that would be doubleplusgood. Of course, ideally there would be no privately owned vehicles, the ministry of transportation should eventually outlaw them. Mandatory public transportation for all citizens would be even safer, and the increased walking distances would be better for public health too! We are making progress, comrade.


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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 16 2011 16:47 GMT
#191
On November 17 2011 01:43 Moragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 01:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2011 01:27 HerroPreaseTN wrote:
On November 17 2011 01:15 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I can't believe people are actually saying that mandatory breathalyzers on all cars sounds like a good idea. I'm just honestly at a loss for what to type here. We've come a long way from the Magna Carta.


Elaborating why it would be such a bad idea, would be a nice start. Frankly, the only downside I see is that I can't wash my teeth with Listerine in the morning. And I never do that


My mistake. More state control over the citizens' daily lives is probably always for the best. The ministry of transportation must ensure safer driving for us somehow. They should also install cameras into the vehicles to make sure that people aren't doing anything else dangerous, like texting, putting on make-up, eating. Or perhaps a mechanism to restrain the drivers hands to the wheel to prevent unsafe driving practices, that would be doubleplusgood. Of course, ideally there would be no privately owned vehicles, the ministry of transportation should eventually outlaw them. Mandatory public transportation for all citizens would be even safer, and the increased walking distances would be better for public health too! We are making progress, comrade.


Sign me up!

You don't have to sign up for anything. All you have to do is not protest when they take another liberty away. Look on the bright side of things. "I don't even use listerine! No loss there."
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
November 16 2011 17:19 GMT
#192
On November 17 2011 01:47 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 01:43 Moragon wrote:
On November 17 2011 01:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2011 01:27 HerroPreaseTN wrote:
On November 17 2011 01:15 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I can't believe people are actually saying that mandatory breathalyzers on all cars sounds like a good idea. I'm just honestly at a loss for what to type here. We've come a long way from the Magna Carta.


Elaborating why it would be such a bad idea, would be a nice start. Frankly, the only downside I see is that I can't wash my teeth with Listerine in the morning. And I never do that


My mistake. More state control over the citizens' daily lives is probably always for the best. The ministry of transportation must ensure safer driving for us somehow. They should also install cameras into the vehicles to make sure that people aren't doing anything else dangerous, like texting, putting on make-up, eating. Or perhaps a mechanism to restrain the drivers hands to the wheel to prevent unsafe driving practices, that would be doubleplusgood. Of course, ideally there would be no privately owned vehicles, the ministry of transportation should eventually outlaw them. Mandatory public transportation for all citizens would be even safer, and the increased walking distances would be better for public health too! We are making progress, comrade.


Sign me up!

You don't have to sign up for anything. All you have to do is not protest when they take another liberty away. Look on the bright side of things. "I don't even use listerine! No loss there."


Did you protest when they made safety belts mandatory? That's where it all started going downhill. Car insurance? speed radars? A gigantic loss of freedom! Today they enforce drunk driving laws, tomorrow.... tomorrow... there will be, uh, less drivers around. I guess, uh, that's completely unacceptable. Because after all, if one chooses to drive while drunk, it should be his right to do so.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 16 2011 17:39 GMT
#193
I kinda like this thing. I don't like to drive that much and this way (If I would be that age, but I am older) I could say this to girl: "Drive me home + Show Spoiler +
Biatch!
".

Good thing is that you can always refuse drunk drivers at evenings/night referring to law. Use it to get girls to invite to your place.

But really does police have that much manpower to obey this law? Stopping almost every car at dark and check their age. If this is passed I guess that party who supported this law would lose a lot of votes from younger audience.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 16 2011 17:46 GMT
#194
lol sick idea. im in favor of a fat tax as well. I also think that pregnant women should have to pay more for gas because the extra weight of the baby reduces the gas mileage of the car.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
November 16 2011 17:47 GMT
#195
On November 15 2011 18:24 Elegy wrote:
hell I'd be down with alcohol locks (breathalyzer I'm assuming) on all cars as standard features, but yeah this is pretty ridiculous and over the top.

crazy people are crazy people and politicians are no exception!

First post, and a great one.

The only problem I'd ever have with that is regarding car-sharing, and how that'd work.

Everything else sounds ridiculous. It's fairly "wtf" to think me and my brother couldn't drive home on holidays with that, because neither of us could drive the other. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And no driving after dark? I already avoid that as much as possible, but sometimes it's necessary. >.>
pesshaulol
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway53 Posts
November 16 2011 17:51 GMT
#196
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/11/16/nyheter/bil/bil_og_trafikk/trafikksikkerhet/19030625/ for you norwegians that didnt see it
Norway
storm8ring3r
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany227 Posts
November 16 2011 17:58 GMT
#197
Wow this is blatant sexism. How about women aren't allowed to operate heavy machinery until they're 24?
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zeizei
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland36 Posts
November 16 2011 18:10 GMT
#198
hilariuous shit D:
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
November 16 2011 18:14 GMT
#199
how about we just stop giving out driver's licenses to every idiot on the planet?

it doesn't matter if they are male or female, there are just too many drivers on both sides that don't know how to drive properly because they are afraid to drive in the dark or are just not comfortable while driving, yet they still do it... same criteria is true for drunk drivers.

but then we could sell less cars to dumb people and it would hinder their "freedom".
and unfortunately it's the majority of the people so it will never happen.


[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#200
Still discrimination. Hypothetically if I owned a store here in the US and wanted to make a law that said that all black people have to pay extra for purchases to compensate for the fact that black people are more likely to rob stores than any other race (IDK if they actually are, it's just for the example) I would have been burned in effigy and maybe arrested within a week.

Politicians these days are retarded and should focus more on solving real issues than this make-work bullshit.
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