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On May 31 2011 17:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
IdrA needs to be careful not to become a parody of himself. So many enablers in this and other threads are going to make it easy for him to keep it up though. People except drama and BM and IdrA has no problem delivering, but at some point (some have reached it) it will actually start to be a turnoff.
Wishing somebody to die just because he owned you in a computer game..thats like textbook parody of idra himself.
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On May 31 2011 17:18 Sephy69 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
IdrA needs to be careful not to become a parody of himself. So many enablers in this and other threads are going to make it easy for him to keep it up though. People except drama and BM and IdrA has no problem delivering, but at some point (some have reached it) it will actually start to be a turnoff. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and have been wondering, when it does happen, can he really not hold back or just doesn't care about his image at all? I'm talking about real BM none of that "oh he didn't gg how rude where is the sportsmanship?" That is not BM to me and people emphasize too much on that and it's really retarded. Instead of just analyzing something so trivial why don't you just move on and disregard? I feel like people just like to build up all this BM and make him look worse as a player/person.
No he can't its just nerd rage. A lot of people on ladder who rage like "your fucking terrible" or stuff like that its just rage. I know I have that problem after losing a few games in a row I go on heavy tilt and yeah... When you play something competitive you get mad when you lose. I mean people over react to it because he's one of the best zergs and therefore isn't allowed to rage. Idk just stupid and I would ignore people like that who get all offended by it ^^
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On May 31 2011 17:18 Sephy69 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
IdrA needs to be careful not to become a parody of himself. So many enablers in this and other threads are going to make it easy for him to keep it up though. People except drama and BM and IdrA has no problem delivering, but at some point (some have reached it) it will actually start to be a turnoff. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and have been wondering, when it does happen, can he really not hold back or just doesn't care about his image at all? I'm talking about real BM none of that "oh he didn't gg how rude where is the sportsmanship?" That is not BM to me and people emphasize too much on that and it's really retarded. Instead of just analyzing something so trivial why don't you just move on and disregard? I feel like people just like to build up all this BM and make him look worse as a player/person.
If people expect you to act a certain way, it gets easier and easier to do so. The danger is that it'll get to a point where he basically can't stop himself because it becomes almost a ritual. I'm not saying he's there, or that he'll even get there, but it's a possibility. Obviously streaming and getting upset or typing random bm isn't the biggest deal. But it just means he has to be careful not to get so used to it that it actually effects his play in tournaments or preparation for them.
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On May 31 2011 17:22 SundeR. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Please stop being so naive. They have been stream sniping him constantly all day and it's not too much of a leap to consider that they might just leave that stream open during the game!
I saw this cop confiscating some cocaine, it's not too much of a leap to consider he just took it home.
/logic
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On May 31 2011 17:22 SundeR. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Please stop being so naive. They have been stream sniping him constantly all day and it's not too much of a leap to consider that they might just leave that stream open during the game!
yeah, Mr. OneOther who has been here since 2004. Can't you see that these guys who joined TL.net with sc2 have ironclad proof that root is stream cheating? really, don't be so naive.
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haha destiny calls hax 
good zvz's tonight!
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On May 31 2011 17:26 Monta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:22 SundeR. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Please stop being so naive. They have been stream sniping him constantly all day and it's not too much of a leap to consider that they might just leave that stream open during the game! I saw this cop confiscating some cocaine, it's not too much of a leap to consider he just took it home. /logic
How is that analogy relevant at all.
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On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning
Exactly. You have no proof. So Destiny was watching IdrA's stream while IdrA played Minigun...
How does that mean they cheated? Having the ability to cheat doesn't mean you cheated. Imagine if any time you took a test and the person beside you had their answers out in the open your teacher jumped straight too "ZOMG YOU CHEATED! ZEWRO FOR YOUZ!!!!!!"
If they were cheating, wouldn't Destiny have been prepared for his Roach allin? Wouldn't CatZ know that IdrA was prepared for his roach allin?
Being a fan of all parties involved, I just can't see how you can come out and say they are cheating. There is absolutely no proof.
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On May 31 2011 17:28 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Exactly. You have no proof. So Destiny was watching IdrA's stream while IdrA played Minigun... How does that mean they cheated? Having the ability to cheat doesn't mean you cheated. Imagine if any time you took a test and the person beside you had their answers out in the open your teacher jumped straight too "ZOMG YOU CHEATED! ZEWRO FOR YOUZ!!!!!!" If they were cheating, wouldn't Destiny have been prepared for his Roach allin? Wouldn't CatZ know that IdrA was prepared for his roach allin? Being a fan of all parties involved, I just can't see how you can come out and say they are cheating. There is absolutely no proof.
IdrA was not prepared for CatZ' roach all-in. He threw spines down at the very last second and they weren't even ready until CatZ did the scrubby mistake of running past them into his main.
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On May 31 2011 17:27 SundeR. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:26 Monta wrote:On May 31 2011 17:22 SundeR. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Please stop being so naive. They have been stream sniping him constantly all day and it's not too much of a leap to consider that they might just leave that stream open during the game! I saw this cop confiscating some cocaine, it's not too much of a leap to consider he just took it home. /logic How is that analogy relevant at all.
?<---That's a question mark, learn to love it.
Just because someone can do something doesn't mean they will.
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So can someone tell me which members of ROOT IdrA has faced during this session, and also write which one of them he lost to.
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On May 31 2011 17:29 SundeR. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:28 iCanada wrote:On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Exactly. You have no proof. So Destiny was watching IdrA's stream while IdrA played Minigun... How does that mean they cheated? Having the ability to cheat doesn't mean you cheated. Imagine if any time you took a test and the person beside you had their answers out in the open your teacher jumped straight too "ZOMG YOU CHEATED! ZEWRO FOR YOUZ!!!!!!" If they were cheating, wouldn't Destiny have been prepared for his Roach allin? Wouldn't CatZ know that IdrA was prepared for his roach allin? Being a fan of all parties involved, I just can't see how you can come out and say they are cheating. There is absolutely no proof. IdrA was not prepared for CatZ' roach all-in. He threw spines down at the very last second and they weren't even ready until CatZ did the scrubby mistake of running past them into his main.
Then why did Minigun lose his Nexus in the first game to Roaches/Zerglings when he could have just added two cannons? Please stop being ridiculous. It's mind-boggling how you can just jump to a conclusion that these guys were cheating when there is absolutely no evidence of it during their games, or some substantial evidence outside of it. (No, you assuming that they watched the streams while playing does not count).
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On May 31 2011 17:30 Monta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:27 SundeR. wrote:On May 31 2011 17:26 Monta wrote:On May 31 2011 17:22 SundeR. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Please stop being so naive. They have been stream sniping him constantly all day and it's not too much of a leap to consider that they might just leave that stream open during the game! I saw this cop confiscating some cocaine, it's not too much of a leap to consider he just took it home. /logic How is that analogy relevant at all. ?<---That's a question mark, learn to love it. Just because someone can do something doesn't mean they will.
Just to clarify, the amount of cops that would take home that cocaine is staggering, so...
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On May 31 2011 17:32 SundeR. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:30 Monta wrote:On May 31 2011 17:27 SundeR. wrote:On May 31 2011 17:26 Monta wrote:On May 31 2011 17:22 SundeR. wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Please stop being so naive. They have been stream sniping him constantly all day and it's not too much of a leap to consider that they might just leave that stream open during the game! I saw this cop confiscating some cocaine, it's not too much of a leap to consider he just took it home. /logic How is that analogy relevant at all. ?<---That's a question mark, learn to love it. Just because someone can do something doesn't mean they will. Just to clarify, the amount of cops that would take home that cocaine is staggering, so... ?
I'm glad you have legitimate numbers to back this up, rather than basing it off of movie cliches...
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Is it impossible to just assume that IdrA sometimes loses because he tends to be overconfident and makes mistakes because of that instead of saying that the opponents must have cheated because "IdrA is perfect and can't be beaten without cheating"?
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On May 31 2011 17:36 Morfildur wrote:
Is it impossible to just assume that IdrA sometimes loses because he tends to be overconfident and makes mistakes because of that instead of saying that the opponents must have cheated because "IdrA is perfect and can't be beaten without cheating"?
Or is laddering and just doesn't give a shit?
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On May 31 2011 17:31 KvltMan wrote:
So can someone tell me which members of ROOT IdrA has faced during this session, and also write which one of them he lost to.
In this order
vs destiny (won)
vs minigun (lost 3x)
vs destiny (won)
vs catz (won)
/e vs destiny (won)
vs destiny (won)
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On May 31 2011 17:24 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:18 Sephy69 wrote:On May 31 2011 17:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
IdrA needs to be careful not to become a parody of himself. So many enablers in this and other threads are going to make it easy for him to keep it up though. People except drama and BM and IdrA has no problem delivering, but at some point (some have reached it) it will actually start to be a turnoff. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and have been wondering, when it does happen, can he really not hold back or just doesn't care about his image at all? I'm talking about real BM none of that "oh he didn't gg how rude where is the sportsmanship?" That is not BM to me and people emphasize too much on that and it's really retarded. Instead of just analyzing something so trivial why don't you just move on and disregard? I feel like people just like to build up all this BM and make him look worse as a player/person. + Show Spoiler +
No he can't its just nerd rage. A lot of people on ladder who rage like "your fucking terrible" or stuff like that its just rage. I know I have that problem after losing a few games in a row I go on heavy tilt and yeah... When you play something competitive you get mad when you lose. I mean people over react to it because he's one of the best zergs and therefore isn't allowed to rage. Idk just stupid and I would ignore people like that who get all offended by it ^^
Yeah people really do overreact to it so hardcore, and just automatically make him the bad guy to the community and really it is not necessary to do and it's just maybe because the people that make ridiculously bad comments on him are ragers themselves. Oh well T_T
On May 31 2011 17:26 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:18 Sephy69 wrote:On May 31 2011 17:02 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
IdrA needs to be careful not to become a parody of himself. So many enablers in this and other threads are going to make it easy for him to keep it up though. People except drama and BM and IdrA has no problem delivering, but at some point (some have reached it) it will actually start to be a turnoff. I've been thinking about this a lot lately and have been wondering, when it does happen, can he really not hold back or just doesn't care about his image at all? I'm talking about real BM none of that "oh he didn't gg how rude where is the sportsmanship?" That is not BM to me and people emphasize too much on that and it's really retarded. Instead of just analyzing something so trivial why don't you just move on and disregard? I feel like people just like to build up all this BM and make him look worse as a player/person. + Show Spoiler +
If people expect you to act a certain way, it gets easier and easier to do so. The danger is that it'll get to a point where he basically can't stop himself because it becomes almost a ritual. I'm not saying he's there, or that he'll even get there, but it's a possibility. Obviously streaming and getting upset or typing random bm isn't the biggest deal. But it just means he has to be careful not to get so used to it that it actually effects his play in tournaments or preparation for them.
I might be too naive when I say this but overall I don't think he's THAT bad except for the whole thing which got him a 90day ban. As I said before, certain people just make his image worse and I understand that he does do/say certain things but you're really not helping the situation are you?
Really you two, thanks for replying it's too see some civil conversation in here. <3
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I think IdrA just gets it into his head sometimes that he DESERVES to win a particular game, because his opponent is someone he "knows" is worse than him, or because they're doing X strat.
So he just does something that has an obvious counter, loses and starts raging.
Rather than accepting that you deserve to win and trying to ride that to victory, do something that actually has a chance of winning.
For example.... rather than charging into a sentry heavy P w/ Roach/Hydra, how about some baneling drops? How about burrowed roaches? And that's just Lair tech, not even getting into Hive (which would be risky).
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On May 31 2011 17:29 SundeR. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:28 iCanada wrote:On May 31 2011 17:18 OneOther wrote:On May 31 2011 17:14 hunts wrote:
Well for one by turning on destinys stream you could hear idras msuic in the background, and hear commercials in the background at the same time idra gets out of a game and starts a commercial, it's the same commercial. Is that enough proof for you? Wait so how does Destiny (possibly) watching IdrA's stream mean that Minigun's cheating while actually playing IdrA? I think you guys should be more careful before you accuse people of cheating because that's always a serious thing no matter the circumstance - and a lot of people would lose their respect for these guys if that were the case. You shouldn't throw out accusations based on unsubstantial reasoning Exactly. You have no proof. So Destiny was watching IdrA's stream while IdrA played Minigun... How does that mean they cheated? Having the ability to cheat doesn't mean you cheated. Imagine if any time you took a test and the person beside you had their answers out in the open your teacher jumped straight too "ZOMG YOU CHEATED! ZEWRO FOR YOUZ!!!!!!" If they were cheating, wouldn't Destiny have been prepared for his Roach allin? Wouldn't CatZ know that IdrA was prepared for his roach allin? Being a fan of all parties involved, I just can't see how you can come out and say they are cheating. There is absolutely no proof. IdrA was not prepared for CatZ' roach all-in. He threw spines down at the very last second and they weren't even ready until CatZ did the scrubby mistake of running past them into his main.
How was he not prepared? He had two spines up by the time CatZ roaches got their, and just about as many roaches. I dunno about you, but I'd call that being prepared. IdrA crushed the push, it wasn't close.
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