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[TSL4] Ro32 Day 1 Preview

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July 28th, 2012 04:19 GMT
  • Major vs HyuN
  • Curious vs LaLush
  • VortiX vs BabyKnight
  • Ret vs Squirtle
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A few short hours away from opening, TSL4 looks to be the most impressive iteration of the this tournament yet. The first day contains eight of the strongest players in any tournament, from a rising Spanish star to a GSL silver-medalist. The day will kick off with TSL2 participant Major fighting his friend and seasoned BW vet TSL_HyuN, followed by ST_Curious vs Mill.LaLush and then K3.VortiX vs FXOBabyKnight. The day will end with ST_Squirtle vs Liquid`Ret, a rematch from Red Bull Battlegrounds just months ago.

Major vs TSL_Hyun


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The lone TvZ of the Ro32, MajOr vs HyuN is a battle of good friends, practice partners, and to some extent; a clash of elephants.

HyuN, a remarkably uninteresting BW pro, became the latest in a string of BW A-teamers who didn't immediately achieve stardom in SC2. But after the initial hype faded, it turned out that HyuN had been improving steadily and enters TSL4 as one of the most intriguing players. There's no doubt that HyuN is a 'scary' player; one whom you'd rather not be paired against. But in the same breath, it seems fair to say that HyuN isn't quite there yet. He feels like a player who is always able to upset a few favorites but never to be the favorite themselves. Known for his tremendous lair-tech play and aggression, HyuN has become notable for his poor hive transitions and control. His ZvP and ZvZ have seemed brilliant, his ZvT weak. Which HyuN will we see in the TSL? It's hard to tell.

Quite interestingly, HyuN's best successes — at least until this most recent GSL Code A — have come online in foreign tournaments. Along with his teammate RevivaL, HyuN is the terror of Playhem Dailies, having racked up at least $1700, in both Playhem NA and EU tournaments. This is definitely a point in HyuN's favor. That success online and overseas suggests that no player in the TSL is better prepared for the brand of international competition that is necessary for this type of tournament. Having shown strength in the TSL qualifiers against the might of the whole Korean scene, this could be HyuN's moment to reverse the disappointing results that he and the other non-KeSPA elephants have achieved so far, and to make the TSL his circus.

MajOr stands in his way. The young Mexican player is something of an elephant in the room for other reasons. Having left x6 — and his last in a string of awful ID's — a while ago, MajOr has trained in Korea and remained teamless. Before the TSL qualifiers began, almost nobody knew where MajOr's abilities were, and almost nobody thought to care. But in two qualifiers, MajOr stomped his way to the finals each time, losing the first but making no mistake of the second. With such a dominant show in his pocket, and as the only qualifier from the Americans, MajOr's stock has risen through the roof. There's no indication that this sudden appreciation of value is a mistake. MajOr did look untouchable in his qualifiers; seeming much more of a sure thing than players like Stephano or HuK who were supposed to qualify easily. As a foreign Terran, MajOr is a curiosity for another reason. With all the top foreign Terrans, including MajOr in TSL4, this is a crucial opportunity to redeem the label.

For this match, MajOr has often felt comfortable in TvZ, and even if he missed out on playing his preferred TvT here, a TvZ against a familiar opponent weak in the match-up is a good draw from him. MajOr's style is versatile; he can play both marine-tank, mech, and all kinds of early aggression. MajOr's mechanics are also superb, and will not be left behind by his Korean opponent in that department.

This match could truly go either way. HyuN is the default pick here, because he has that extra 'Koreaness' that mysteriously is often decisive. But MajOr proved beyond all doubt in the qualifiers that he is an elite foreign player. He has experience in Korea, and with his opponent. And most importantly, he has seemed more at ease in TvZ than his opponent, who has a more unwieldy style. This is one of the most high skilled matches in the Ro32, and I'm going to go with the foreigner.

MajOr 3 – 2 HyuN


ST_Curious vs MǂLaLush


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The second match of the night is between two players who might be more widely known for their personality traits than the content of their play. First we have Curious, an icon of stoicism who never, ever changes his blank expression when he's competing in the GSL booth. Curious has mentioned that this is intentional, as he actively seeks to stop emotions from affecting his play. As for LaLush, he's known for, well, being a little bit bad mannered.

While we'd love to learn more about LaLush's game, the above might be all you need to know before he drops out of this tournament. Curious has been Startale's ace Zerg for some time now, and he has a highly decorated GSL resume that includes five stints in Code S, as well as a famous undefeated run to win the Code A when it was still a full tournament. While LaLush performed admirably in the TLOpens and is a consistent presence in the small tournament scene, it's hard to think that will measure up to such a formidable Korean opponent.

You might think that the match-up would even things up. Zerg vs Zerg is more upset prone than the non-mirrors, even if it's no PvP. On top of that, LaLush's best match-up is Zerg vs Zerg by far, having over a 62% win rate over his career compared to the sub 50% win rates for his non-mirrors. Unfortunately his opponent can even one up him in this department. With a 68% win rate in Korean Zerg vs Zergs, he is only trumped by players named DongRaeGu or Nestea. If this were a best of three, you might say that with some luck, and the ability to bring his A-game every single time, LaLush would have a chance at making huge waves in the first round. However, TSL4 starts with best of five in the Ro32, and it's going to be even harder for the underdogs to score upsets.

Curious 3 – 1 LaLush



K3ǂVortiX vs FXO.BabyKnight


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There's a glass half empty and a glass half full way of looking at this match-up. One one hand, it's a shame that these two rapidly rising Europeans, who have both held one of the top two places on the EU ladder for the past week, will have to play each other in the opening round. On the positive side, the match-up guarantees that one will survive, and proceed on, presumably to cause some serious damage.

BabyKnight is the points qualifier here, achieving the second highest total with an impressive run of top finishes, including one in the finals. He formerly was a formidable DotA player, but switched to SC2 and struggled to distinguish himself for a while. Recently however, he has hit his stride in a huge way. There is a difference between players who can reach the top 30 of the ladder if they try, and players who can reach the top position at will. In the last few months, BabyKnight has made that transition, and his TSL4 qualification and pick-up by FXO are proof of his emerging skill.

Unfortunately for BabyKnight, PvZ is his most vulnerable match-up. You can bet that Dane would have enjoyed the match-up against MC that awaited his countryman, Ciara in TSL3. BabyKnight's blink PvP, with its never ending harassment is one of the finest things we saw in the qualifiers. But in PvZ, BabyKnight hasn't had as much success with his desire to harass and micro against overwhelming odds. He's favored gateway heavy timings and storm/blink play in the past, and the key in this series will be making sure his army doesn't die as he's pushing in the mid-game.

Meanwhile, VortiX has usually been known as LucifroN's brother. (Did you know he's LucifroN's brother?) But at this point, it's well past time we started referring to VortiX as his own person. In fact, it might not be so long until we refer to LucifroN as VortiX's brother. The Spaniard has, like his opponent, gone from being unknown internationally, to being one of the most feared up and comers in the foreign scene. His TLOpen win, 3-0 over Golden and his all-kill of Empire in the IPL TAC3 shortly thereafter made up one of the more impressive weeks we've seen recently. But just from a sentimental perspective, VortiX is exactly the kind of player on paper — actually, BK too — that everyone is looking for when they talk about the TSL and the 'next ThorZaIN'. Not well known outside of Spain before this tournament, he could use TSL4 to prove that he's ready for the world stage.

VortiX's ZvP is his strongest match-up statistically, and his 3-5 loss to Squirtle in the IPL Fight Club shows his abilities. His style has traditionally been heavy lair with very frequent mutalisk play, or else roach ling multi-pronged aggression. It's fast and mechanically demanding to execute and to defend. The key with VortiX and BabyKnight will be how the Protoss will deal with the Zerg aggression. Whether BK's micro and multi-task on defense will be enough to bring him to the late game and whether VortiX can keep BabyKnight's deadly timed attacks from killing him, to even allow the midgame to develop in the first place. It'll be a fascinating back and forth to watch.

I love both of these players, and both have bright futures. Unfortunately, only one can advance, and VortiX has the edge here in playing his top match-up.

VortiX 3 – 1 BabyKnight


Liquid`Ret vs ST_Squirtle


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No seeding system is perfect, and we kick off the first round of TSL4 with a blockbuster foreigner vs. Korean that one would normally expect to see far deeper in the tournament. In one corner we have Ret, a player who has long been considered to be among the best non-Korean players in the world, but has rarely-if-ever been in the running to be THE best. Squirtle has recently entered a similar situation on his side of the pond. His run from the open bracket to the silver medal at IPL4, alongside a near perfect GSL Season Two run before falling to Mvp in the finals, have confirmed him as a top Protoss player in most eyes. But without an actual championship, it has been hard for him to be mentioned in the same breath as names such as MarineKing, DongRaeGu, or MC. For Ret and Squirtle, every tournament is an opportunity to try and prove that there are none others above them.

Ret and Squirtle met once before at the Red Bull Battlegrounds in Austin. It was only a short, three game series, but it was a microcosm of each players' strengths and weaknesses in the Zerg vs Protoss match-up. Squirtle lived up to his reputation as a near textbook tournament player, mixing up semi all-in play and macro builds to stay unpredictable. In turn, Ret showed that he could play the lair phase as well as any Korean, never looking behind until the game entered the hive phase. There, his most notable weaknesses came to light, as his mismanagement of brood lord armies combined with his mortal enemy, the warp-prism, cost him the series.

Though some time has passed since that series, it doesn't seem like any player has significantly changed his game. In the most recent tournaments of note, Squirtle continued to look slightly featureless, but still very solid and strong in a very textbook way in the GSL, while Ret continued to stomp out two base all-ins and lose his greater spire to warp-ins at NASL.

This is a match-up where Ret will play his reactionary Zerg style, while it will be up to Squirtle to shape the series with his choice of strategies. Squirtle's dogged adherence to variety for its own sake might hurt him could hurt him here, as one of Ret's greatest strengths is his ability to deflect all but the most well-executed all-ins. Instead of risking defeat like Puzzle, who lost all three of his NASL games to Ret after a failed two base attack, the best approach for Squirtle would be to play long games where both players get high tech units.

Squirtle 3 – 1 Ret






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Serinox
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Germany5224 Posts
July 28 2012 04:22 GMT
#2
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
July 28 2012 04:23 GMT
#3
KARONT3ǂVORTIX VS TSL_HYUN mistake here. its babyknight :p
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 04:24 GMT
#4
WOOHOOOO
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 04:31:23
July 28 2012 04:29 GMT
#5
Not sure if Ret will even be able to take a game off of Squirtle but I certainly hope he can.

+ Show Spoiler [my predictions but nobody cares] +

Hyun 3-1 MajOr
Vortix 3-1 BabyKnight
Curious 3-0 LaLush
Squirtle 3-0 Ret
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 04:31:25
July 28 2012 04:30 GMT
#6
On July 28 2012 13:22 Serinox wrote:
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.

I think MajOr will win 3-1 vs HyuN, he is probably the best foreigner Terran there is.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 28 2012 04:32 GMT
#7
On July 28 2012 13:30 Wrecken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:22 Serinox wrote:
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.

I think MajOr will win 3-1 vs HyuN, he is probably the best foreigner Terran there is.

ThorZaIN >>> MajOr

2 tournament victories to 0
SirDolan
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia1 Post
July 28 2012 04:42 GMT
#8
come on hyun!
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Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
July 28 2012 04:49 GMT
#9
Nobody gives Ret any credit for NASL? I think that tournament proves that he is able to make a match out of ZvP with the Korean Toss
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 28 2012 04:54 GMT
#10
On July 28 2012 13:49 Icekommander wrote:
Nobody gives Ret any credit for NASL? I think that tournament proves that he is able to make a match out of ZvP with the Korean Toss

ret got beaten 8 games in a row against aforementioned korean toss
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
July 28 2012 04:55 GMT
#11
On July 28 2012 13:32 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:30 Wrecken wrote:
On July 28 2012 13:22 Serinox wrote:
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.

I think MajOr will win 3-1 vs HyuN, he is probably the best foreigner Terran there is.

ThorZaIN >>> MajOr

2 tournament victories to 0


tournament victory mean jack when comparing current form.

I think major is better atm.
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
July 28 2012 05:00 GMT
#12
hyun is probably a code S level zerg, not sure if major can even take a game off him..
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Galaxy1again
Profile Joined June 2012
United States34 Posts
July 28 2012 05:51 GMT
#13
I'm rooting for MajOr!
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s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
July 28 2012 06:03 GMT
#14
Why would TL writers bet against TL players? Didn't they see Taeja vs Startale?
cmcaneff5502
Profile Joined February 2012
United States116 Posts
July 28 2012 06:05 GMT
#15
On July 28 2012 13:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:32 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 28 2012 13:30 Wrecken wrote:
On July 28 2012 13:22 Serinox wrote:
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.

I think MajOr will win 3-1 vs HyuN, he is probably the best foreigner Terran there is.

ThorZaIN >>> MajOr

2 tournament victories to 0


tournament victory mean jack when comparing current form.

I think major is better atm.


^^ this, I'm a big tzain fan but maj0r is really in form right now, i hope he plays to his potential!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 28 2012 06:24 GMT
#16
I'm ok with the possibility of a Major upset.

Otherwise the other 3 seem more straightforward. But its TSL so who's our breakout player? =D?
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 28 2012 06:25 GMT
#17
Cool preview!
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 28 2012 06:50 GMT
#18
lololololol IT SAYS VORTIX VS HYUN!!!!!
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
July 28 2012 06:56 GMT
#19
On July 28 2012 13:30 Wrecken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:22 Serinox wrote:
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.

I think MajOr will win 3-1 vs HyuN, he is probably the best foreigner Terran there is.

doesn't mean much lol but hey i could be wrong.. granted people have been saying princess has been good forever.. still no results really.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 28 2012 07:07 GMT
#20
Squirtle and Curious should advance. It breaks my heart to cheer against Ret, but Startale fighting!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 28 2012 07:23 GMT
#21
Major looked impressive in his qualifiers vZ but I think Hyun might be too much for him. It should be interesting because Major said he practices a lot with the TSL players so they should know each others' style pretty well. Major also said that he believes HyuN is the best zerg on TSL's roster so that may be signs that MajOr has a lot of trouble defeating HyuN in practice. For that reason I think HyuN will take the match, but it definitely has the potential to be close.

I know Lalush's best matchup is supposed to be ZvZ but Curious seems to be on quite a tear recently so I will have to give this one to him. Not sure how the lag situation will be for either player but I feel that by now, unlike in TSL3, people will be used to playing in online tournament lag conditions. Curious will be too strong for Lalush.

Vortix has looked really strong lately and managed to take a couple of games off squirtle's strong ZvP in the IPL Fight Club so I went with him here.

ret has the potential to pull off an upset here if he is really on his game but I think Squirtle is just one of the best protoss in the world and I'm not sure ret will be able to handle that if squirtle is also on his game. I went with squirtle
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 28 2012 07:25 GMT
#22
You know, you say Hyun has the advantage of "Korean-ness" but you forgot one CRITICAL thing. This is the TSL. It is also known as the Korean Graveyard. Being Korean is a DISADVANTAGE in the TSL. Major has yet another advantage.
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ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
July 28 2012 07:32 GMT
#23
Great write-up! I am so hyped for tonight!

Two minor things; Lalush should be Swedish and there is the wrong name in the header of the Karont3ǂVortiX vs. FXO.EU.BabyKnight series.
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RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
July 28 2012 07:55 GMT
#24
ERROR :p
title vortix vs hyun instade of vortix vs babyknight
and french flag is the best but lalush is swedish
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
July 28 2012 08:33 GMT
#25
Last paragraph ret vs squirtle: "Squirtle's dogged adherence to variety for its own sake might hurt him could hurt him here"
i think there is a could/might hurt him too much ^^
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Shartugal
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark134 Posts
July 28 2012 10:28 GMT
#26
BabyKnight fightning! Hoping to see MajOr do well aswell, I think he'll take Hyun hands down.
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Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 28 2012 13:27 GMT
#27
Holy fuck, this is today? I got an exam on tuesday, why is SC2 doing this to me?
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
July 28 2012 13:30 GMT
#28
On July 28 2012 22:27 Lorizean wrote:
Holy fuck, this is today? I got an exam on tuesday, why is SC2 doing this to me?


TSL 4 >>>>> exams.
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Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
July 28 2012 13:31 GMT
#29
Ret vs Squirtle ... oh yeahh
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Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 28 2012 13:33 GMT
#30
On July 28 2012 22:30 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:27 Lorizean wrote:
Holy fuck, this is today? I got an exam on tuesday, why is SC2 doing this to me?


TSL 4 >>>>> exams.

Well, it's my last try and I didn't go to any lectures so I really kinda have to revise...
Ah w/e, I'll probably still watch TSL
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
July 28 2012 14:03 GMT
#31
BO5 from the beginning, nice. BO3s just aren't proper matches
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 28 2012 14:21 GMT
#32
will this be live or casted from replays?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 28 2012 14:24 GMT
#33
On July 28 2012 13:29 The Final Boss wrote:
Not sure if Ret will even be able to take a game off of Squirtle but I certainly hope he can.

+ Show Spoiler [my predictions but nobody cares] +

Hyun 3-1 MajOr
Vortix 3-1 BabyKnight
Curious 3-0 LaLush
Squirtle 3-0 Ret

I'm gonna quote this as my predictions would be identical
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
July 28 2012 14:27 GMT
#34
You all underestimate HyuN. A lot. He just aced for TSL. He just got to the finals of the WCS qualifiers.

He will 3-0 Major ezpz.
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cactusjack914
Profile Joined March 2011
United States183 Posts
July 28 2012 14:29 GMT
#35
3-2 Hyun in a come from behind win, 3-2 BabyKnight, 3-2 squirtle
"starcraft isn't a hobby, its a lifestyle."
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#36
Plz win babyknight. I want some Danish succes
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Xylocaine
Profile Joined November 2010
France56 Posts
July 28 2012 14:48 GMT
#37
On July 28 2012 13:19 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

mx [image loading] MajOr < Ohana > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Metropolis > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Antiga Shipyard > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Daybreak > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Ohana > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN



Ohana twice on first matchup?
Corak
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany187 Posts
July 28 2012 15:15 GMT
#38
Ret has got this. gogogogogogog!!!
-shArk-
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
July 28 2012 15:20 GMT
#39
Can somebody tell me whos casting this evening? cant find it
sOs - Rain - PartinG
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
July 28 2012 15:26 GMT
#40
On July 29 2012 00:20 -shArk- wrote:
Can somebody tell me whos casting this evening? cant find it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355755
http://www.teamliquidstarleague.com/schedule
LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
July 28 2012 15:38 GMT
#41
So pumped!

Predictions:

Major > Hyun
Curios < Lalush
Vortix > BabyKnight
Ret > Squirtle

Lalush will, hopefully, upset and Ret and Major will crush the koreans! I hope.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russel
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#42
On July 28 2012 23:24 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:29 The Final Boss wrote:
Not sure if Ret will even be able to take a game off of Squirtle but I certainly hope he can.

+ Show Spoiler [my predictions but nobody cares] +

Hyun 3-1 MajOr
Vortix 3-1 BabyKnight
Curious 3-0 LaLush
Squirtle 3-0 Ret

I'm gonna quote this as my predictions would be identical


I will quote this quote as I agree here also. Except even though I like Ret a lot I hope he doesn't take a game. =P

Also doubt I'll be awake for any of these games, though if there are enough long games then I should awaken from my slumber on time to catch 1 or 2 games I think.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 15:41:43
July 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#43
On July 29 2012 00:38 LawnMower wrote:
Lalush will, hopefully, upset and Ret and Major will crush the koreans! I hope.


neither of those three are likely in any way whatsoever to happen
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
July 28 2012 15:43 GMT
#44
pretty awesome preview, i disagree with Major beating Hyun, but the rest looked like what i'd have guessed, cant WAIT to see the games!
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 28 2012 15:52 GMT
#45
Princess winning ? I'll take any odds against that
LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
July 28 2012 15:53 GMT
#46
On July 29 2012 00:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 00:38 LawnMower wrote:
Lalush will, hopefully, upset and Ret and Major will crush the koreans! I hope.


neither of those three are likely in any way whatsoever to happen


No they are not, which will make it so much sweeter if it happens.
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russel
Copenap
Profile Joined October 2010
723 Posts
July 28 2012 16:04 GMT
#47
Don't know if I missed it but do we know the casters yet?
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 28 2012 16:06 GMT
#48
On July 28 2012 23:48 Xylocaine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:19 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

mx [image loading] MajOr < Ohana > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Metropolis > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Antiga Shipyard > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Daybreak > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN

mx [image loading] MajOr < Ohana > kr
[image loading]
TSL_HyuN



Ohana twice on first matchup?

Yeah that's how the TSL4 map pool works. Each player can veto one of six maps leaving four maps left for a Bo5 series. Then one of the maps is randomly selected to be played twice.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
July 28 2012 16:07 GMT
#49
--- Nuked ---
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 28 2012 16:16 GMT
#50
Honestly i think all 3 koreans are favored here, the major vs Hyun might be the most close on paper.

But i am hoping for the TSL upsets ofc !
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
July 28 2012 16:18 GMT
#51
VAMOS JUAN ! foreign terrans fighting!
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Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 28 2012 16:22 GMT
#52
They better play some Gangnam Style during breaks.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
July 28 2012 16:28 GMT
#53
On July 29 2012 01:22 Lorizean wrote:
They better play some Gangnam Style during breaks.

I will insTant buy a ticket if they do. Actually, i probably will just for the poster.

Gogo vortix and ret!
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
July 28 2012 16:33 GMT
#54
hyun > major 3-1
curious > lalush 3-0
vortix > babyknight 3-2
squirtle > ret 3-1
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
July 28 2012 16:34 GMT
#55
Anyone know how the bracket winner(s) are determined? Is it most correct? Is it most correct with a correct winner prediction? And are ties (since only 5 winners, could be more with same bracket) broken by who made theirs first?
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 28 2012 17:11 GMT
#56
On July 28 2012 13:32 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 13:30 Wrecken wrote:
On July 28 2012 13:22 Serinox wrote:
Awesome preview (although I disagree with the MajOr-HyuN prediction)

Little correction: LaLush is swedish and not french.

I think MajOr will win 3-1 vs HyuN, he is probably the best foreigner Terran there is.

ThorZaIN >>> MajOr

2 tournament victories to 0


Cén't say MajOr is as stable as Thorzain tho. :p
Thorzain can only dream to get the same mechanics as MajOr sadly.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TKK
Profile Joined March 2011
41 Posts
July 28 2012 17:40 GMT
#57
i would never underestimate major but hyun is definitly on another level.
the foreign community dont care because he has no real gsl achievement but major should know hyun is one of the best.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
July 28 2012 18:26 GMT
#58
GOGO TSL
Proxan
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden16 Posts
July 28 2012 19:44 GMT
#59
Uhm, I might be misinformed or even flat out wrong, but isn't Major a maphacker?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
July 28 2012 19:59 GMT
#60
On July 29 2012 04:44 Proxan wrote:
Uhm, I might be misinformed or even flat out wrong, but isn't Major a maphacker?

And your source for that claim is?
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savagedwolf
Profile Joined July 2012
4 Posts
July 28 2012 20:47 GMT
#61
Really looking forward to Squirtle's matches.

By chance, does any one know what the strobe remix is they keep playing in the adds? its quite catchy.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 28 2012 22:00 GMT
#62
Oh dope, both my predictions were right!!!
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
July 28 2012 23:13 GMT
#63
On July 29 2012 07:00 tree.hugger wrote:
Oh dope, both my predictions were right!!!

+1
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babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
July 29 2012 01:37 GMT
#64
predictions were pretty spot on... mostly surprised how the 3-2 major win panned out the way it was predicted
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 29 2012 01:56 GMT
#65
Seriously thanks to all of the TL staff and assosicated people that work on TSL, its an amazing production, TSL3 is what made me fall in love with starcraft, so hyped for TSL4. Best starcraft tournament hands down. Production/casting/players/graphics/music selection and whatever else im forgetting (i dont know what goes into producing a starleague) is flawless. 10/10.
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Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
July 29 2012 16:17 GMT
#66
I GUESS WE CAN SAY THIS WAS THE FIRST MAJOR UPSET
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
July 29 2012 16:17 GMT
#67
BADUM TSHH
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