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[TSL] Ro32 Day 4 Recap and Interviews - Page 14

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purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
March 29 2011 08:19 GMT
#261
wow I love Cruncher, such a baller.

Tbh Idra need to cool it down. He played for CJ in bw and seem to think that it was enough to be the king of sc2. I mean he sat in a korean pro house and still got owned in TSL2 by a player that did not even work that hard. In Sc2 he started of in korea and then moved back but it has not changed the fact that he is getting owned most of the time anyway. And when he does, its always chees, lame use of op units or the map and faction he plays is so imb that it is impossible to win.

To have the bm style idra has, he need to show alot more result. Its starting to get embarassing how often he speaks out and then looks really lame when he lose or are just plain wrong in what he say. Like morrow not winning anything with zerg, or cruncher being a walkover etc etc etc.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10760 Posts
March 29 2011 08:24 GMT
#262
The real fun thing is the peoples attitude towards Torunaments/Games:

Tournament BO1:
"That means nothing, it's just 1 Game, you can't judge who is better from that".

Tournament BO3:
"Thats means nothing, it's just 3 Games, you can't judge wo is better from that".

Tournament BO5:
"That means nothing, it's just 5 Games, you can't really judge wo is better from that.


Might this comes shocking to some of you, but winning in a tournament is all that matters.... No one cares if your 10-0 in the Ladder against the Dude that just kicked you out.
In no other Sports people are all the time like "well it was just a BO3".... Tennis, Football, Track, Skiing........ Whatever you wan't, the tournaments are BO1 (well you could argue in Tennis for BO3/5 depending on Sets) and no one ever asks which player/team was better in Training...

Cruncher beat Idra, Cruncher is therefore better until Idra beats him in another tournament game. It does not matter if he is better due to imbalance or whatever, it just does not matter.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
March 29 2011 08:25 GMT
#263
Well played Cruncher.

Idra's been overrated since 2009. To think that there were people in the world who actually considered him to be the best SC2 player in the world around September/October last year is mind-blowing.
Scorpius
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden36 Posts
March 29 2011 08:27 GMT
#264
wow this TSL is the shit! how much is in the prize pool how much money do the winner and second place get?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 08:34:49
March 29 2011 08:28 GMT
#265
On March 29 2011 17:24 Velr wrote:
The real fun thing is the peoples attitude towards Torunaments/Games:

Tournament BO1:
"That means nothing, it's just 1 Game, you can't judge who is better from that".

Tournament BO3:
"Thats means nothing, it's just 3 Games, you can't judge wo is better from that".

Tournament BO5:
"That means nothing, it's just 5 Games, you can't really judge wo is better from that.


Might this comes shocking to some of you, but winning in a tournament is all that matters.... No one cares if your 10-0 in the Ladder against the Dude that just kicked you out.
In no other Sports people are all the time like "well it was just a BO3".... Tennis, Football, Track, Skiing........ Whatever you wan't, the tournaments are BO1 (well you could argue in Tennis for BO3/5 depending on Sets) and no one ever asks which player/team was better in Training...

Cruncher beat Idra, Cruncher is therefore better until Idra beats him in another tournament game. It does not matter if he is better due to imbalance or whatever, it just does not matter.

This is hilariously flawed logic, but just for entertainment, do you think if some no name defeats Federer and then doesn't play him again and shows no other good results, he is better than him?
OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
March 29 2011 08:31 GMT
#266
<3 Cruncher. Finally a player with the balls to respond to Idras bm. When the puppy misbehaves you gotta smack it on the nose or it will never learn.
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
March 29 2011 08:31 GMT
#267
Dayumn, Cruncher is vicious.
"I before E...*sunglasses*... except after C." - Jim Carrey
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 29 2011 08:33 GMT
#268
Man Kas seems so nice and humble. He is so skilled and makes a mistake but still says how Haypro played well to get into that position. Really dig that guy. Hope we see more of him.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 29 2011 08:35 GMT
#269
Good interviews from everyone but Cruncher. I'm glad I was rooting for Kas, he pretty awesome.

I hope Mondragon can continue to impress, and I hope Nada goes far! ^^
Razzah
Profile Joined March 2011
United States35 Posts
March 29 2011 08:35 GMT
#270
On March 29 2011 17:24 Velr wrote:
The real fun thing is the peoples attitude towards Torunaments/Games:

Tournament BO1:
"That means nothing, it's just 1 Game, you can't judge who is better from that".

Tournament BO3:
"Thats means nothing, it's just 3 Games, you can't judge wo is better from that".

Tournament BO5:
"That means nothing, it's just 5 Games, you can't really judge wo is better from that.


Might this comes shocking to some of you, but winning in a tournament is all that matters.... No one cares if your 10-0 in the Ladder against the Dude that just kicked you out.
In no other Sports people are all the time like "well it was just a BO3".... Tennis, Football, Track, Skiing........ Whatever you wan't, the tournaments are BO1 (well you could argue in Tennis for BO3/5 depending on Sets) and no one ever asks which player/team was better in Training...

Cruncher beat Idra, Cruncher is therefore better until Idra beats him in another tournament game. It does not matter if he is better due to imbalance or whatever, it just does not matter.


Hockey is a BO7 and that should be the staple of who is the better player. BO5 sometimes can work but BO3 and especially BO1 do not prove much.
MegaPerle
Profile Joined October 2010
France53 Posts
March 29 2011 08:37 GMT
#271
What's wrong with some of you guys? Do you prefer to be hypochrite or honest? Cruncher is honest in this interview. As stated before the match by Day[9] and DjWheat, these two players don't like each other. I see nothing wrong with Cruncher's interview, even if he's saying some inexact things, he stays honest and that's all that matters for me.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 08:41:49
March 29 2011 08:40 GMT
#272
On March 29 2011 17:13 Trowa127 wrote:
Haha, great interview from Cruncher. Obviously Idra isn't very good, its not like he has consistently performed in the top league in the entire World, taken out some of the best players in the World and is name dropped by pretty much every Korean along with Jinro when asked who the good foreign players are.



Because Koreans in general have excellent knowledge of the international scene? There's a reason why they name Jinro and Idra, it's more or less the only foreigners they know of or at least have seen play. For instance Nestea had never heard of Goody and Genius only recognized qxc's name, didn't know anything about his game.
Razzah
Profile Joined March 2011
United States35 Posts
March 29 2011 08:42 GMT
#273
Really bad part on the people who do the interviews to let them badmouth others for no reason. This goes for both Cruncher and Idra but mainly cruncher since he bm'ed idra in every question.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 08:43:48
March 29 2011 08:42 GMT
#274
On March 29 2011 17:35 Razzah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 17:24 Velr wrote:
The real fun thing is the peoples attitude towards Torunaments/Games:

Tournament BO1:
"That means nothing, it's just 1 Game, you can't judge who is better from that".

Tournament BO3:
"Thats means nothing, it's just 3 Games, you can't judge wo is better from that".

Tournament BO5:
"That means nothing, it's just 5 Games, you can't really judge wo is better from that.


Might this comes shocking to some of you, but winning in a tournament is all that matters.... No one cares if your 10-0 in the Ladder against the Dude that just kicked you out.
In no other Sports people are all the time like "well it was just a BO3".... Tennis, Football, Track, Skiing........ Whatever you wan't, the tournaments are BO1 (well you could argue in Tennis for BO3/5 depending on Sets) and no one ever asks which player/team was better in Training...

Cruncher beat Idra, Cruncher is therefore better until Idra beats him in another tournament game. It does not matter if he is better due to imbalance or whatever, it just does not matter.


Hockey is a BO7 and that should be the staple of who is the better player. BO5 sometimes can work but BO3 and especially BO1 do not prove much.


A BO1 proves about as much as a BO7 that ends 4-3.

A 4-0 "rape" would probably prove something, but in the end it doesn't matter.

If you got the "Winner"-Tag your better.


I'm just kinda annoyed by the constant complaining of some people that BO1/3/whatever do not show who is better... Well... As long as people actually have to play the game these things are all that matters and all that define whos better.



Or we could just start with having each player fill out a SC2 trivia and multply the answers with their average apm divided by 3...
kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
March 29 2011 08:44 GMT
#275
On March 29 2011 17:24 Velr wrote:
The real fun thing is the peoples attitude towards Torunaments/Games:

Tournament BO1:
"That means nothing, it's just 1 Game, you can't judge who is better from that".

Tournament BO3:
"Thats means nothing, it's just 3 Games, you can't judge wo is better from that".

Tournament BO5:
"That means nothing, it's just 5 Games, you can't really judge wo is better from that.


Might this comes shocking to some of you, but winning in a tournament is all that matters.... No one cares if your 10-0 in the Ladder against the Dude that just kicked you out.
In no other Sports people are all the time like "well it was just a BO3".... Tennis, Football, Track, Skiing........ Whatever you wan't, the tournaments are BO1 (well you could argue in Tennis for BO3/5 depending on Sets) and no one ever asks which player/team was better in Training...

Cruncher beat Idra, Cruncher is therefore better until Idra beats him in another tournament game. It does not matter if he is better due to imbalance or whatever, it just does not matter.


true. in other words: it's NEVER about "who's better" in general, but ALWAYS about winning right here and then. no one is arguing something like "cruncher won so he's a better player than idra".
he just won and that's all that matters. idra will never get this. i remember rekruls post when idra lost against i think it was f91 and his response was something like "well he played horribly, it's stupid to play the way he did and my strategy was good vs a good strategy so he's just stupid"... stupid and WINNING man.... jesus.

btw idra fans there's a BIG difference between being BM in general towards anyone and just BMing the one person on earth that SO deserved it. seriously, grow up.
desu
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 29 2011 08:45 GMT
#276
On March 29 2011 17:27 Scorpius wrote:
wow this TSL is the shit! how much is in the prize pool how much money do the winner and second place get?


1place: 15.000$

2place: 7500$
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Duprix
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands17 Posts
March 29 2011 08:46 GMT
#277
Cruncher is no better than idra imo. He says he is cheesing in ladder games against idra to make him rage. that is what the bully in the schoolyard does as well. picking on some one else for their own ammusement. Idra should try to rage less and practice more. all that negative energy could be used in other ways.

cruncher over did it with the smileyface imo and ik hope he will get crushed by his next opponent.

greetz
Respect all, Fear none!
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
March 29 2011 08:47 GMT
#278
lol, the Cruncher's fans are as ridiculous as IdrA's.
Keep talking guys, there's so much bad faith in your posts that it becomes painfull to read.


btw, gg to all the players for these nice games.
Nada fighting !
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 29 2011 08:48 GMT
#279
I practiced a bunch on the maps beforehand of course.

I expected it. But I didn't get to practice too much in the last few days, so I went over some builds and strategies that would stop it.

???


Typical Mondragon interview too, we'll see him in the finals...

Kas unhappy with his own play, but I think he did rather well. But if he thinks he can play better against NaDa, I'll take it :D
A backwards poet writes inverse.
done
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany70 Posts
March 29 2011 08:49 GMT
#280
gotta love Mondragon. Ive always been a big fan and seeing him own again in sc2 makes me so happy

also he is trolling in his interviews its actually hilarious
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