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[TSL] Tyler, Strelok, FruitD, Thorzain Interviews - Page 4

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double1185
Profile Joined May 2010
Vietnam211 Posts
March 16 2011 06:53 GMT
#61
I cant see the reason why Strelok complains about the invited guess, to make TSL a world-class tournament this is really what the organizer boards should do, what he complain is just like we Asia complain about the number of Europe or SA team can join the World Cup. Also many Korean great player has been left out as well (talking July or Lyn, or even Ace (IEM winner)). Im glad to see the lvl of the tournament reaching this high, been counting down the days for this ^^. Gogo FD
Starcraft FTW
dennistoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore155 Posts
March 16 2011 06:55 GMT
#62
In short, the whites are afraid of taking on the koreans. Enough said.

If you want it, prove it. SLACKERSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
MC to Idra: 2-0? You Dream. I 4-0, you cry.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
March 16 2011 07:00 GMT
#63
thanks for the great interviews! Hoping for some exciting games
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
navy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada197 Posts
March 16 2011 07:07 GMT
#64
Fruit Dealer hero zerg of the world
I'm pretty excited.
NonSenSeWins
Profile Joined August 2010
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 07:10:10
March 16 2011 07:07 GMT
#65
i think people are being way too harsh on strelok.. i thought he was just expressing his frustration with the fact that they hand out 16 invites to players while the 16 qualifiers have to play their hearts out weekend after weekend to get in and then players like socke mana etc dont make it in because tl is going out of its way to invite korean players instead. also i'm pretty sure his explanation of wanting to see the foreigners duke it out is because tsl is team liquid star league and has always been a competition between the members of the tl community to see who was the best, not the best in the world.

these mob cries of racism seem unwarranted to me.. seems like he worded it poorly but it hardly seems like it has something to do with not liking koreans or fearing them..

also we all know that tl invited the people they did specifically because they couldn't participate in the tl opens but the fact remains that the tl opens were very difficult to win, took up a lot of time, and had a lot of variance due to the format of so many bo1s and then having so many players in each tournament. both sides are of the argument are reasonable but nowhere does strelok say anything about not wanting the koreans because 4/4 of the semifinalists will be korean or anything.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
March 16 2011 07:10 GMT
#66
On March 16 2011 16:07 NonSenSeWins wrote:
i think people are being way too harsh on strelok.. i thought he was just expressing his frustration with the fact that they hand out 16 invites to players while the 16 qualifiers have to play their hearts out weekend after weekend to get in and then players like socke mana etc dont make it in because tl is going out of its way to invite korean players instead. also i'm pretty sure his explanation of wanting to see the foreigners duke it out is because tsl is team liquid star league and has always been a competition between the members of the tl community to see who was the best, not the best in the world.

these mob cries of racism seem unwarranted to me.. seems like he worded it poorly but it hardly seems like it has something to do with not liking koreans or fearing them..


absolutely agree, especially with the bit about members of the tl community. clearly TL wants to expand the TSL beyond this scope, which is absolutely fine, but i think strelok's frustration (and, to some degree, mine) are completely justified and not xenophobic
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
March 16 2011 07:18 GMT
#67
ok, nony's interview got me hype, hopefully his play will deliver
ALang
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
March 16 2011 07:22 GMT
#68
Well I guess we know FruitDealer is hoping to give us good games. I would like to see Koreans show some personality in their interviews instead of being so modest and giving the exact same answers as every other Korean.


NOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYY
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 16 2011 07:24 GMT
#69
On March 16 2011 15:48 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 15:38 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 16 2011 15:18 SeraKuDA wrote:
I don't know how true it is but I get the feeling that the general thought amongst a lot of European players is that Koreans are overrated. Like they're almost jealous of the spotlight put on them... I dunno... Just a thought...


Yeah, they seem to have their superiority complex crushed by cold hard facts. Strelok is being a B@¢¤@

``The foreigners aren`t so far away, we`re on par``

''They should have this a non-asian community tournament''

Man, first and foremost, that`s a contradicting statement, and also, what does that mean, a non asian tournament?? If SelecT or KawaiiRice or Sjow whose half asian qualify,what happen? They`re not from Asia but they`re asian? A bigotted statement, that`s all it is. The community is based on the Korea SC culture. All the slangs are from Korean reference, you want to take them all as well to replace them with whiter terms maybe?

When you read Fruit`s interview, you see the difference: A guy who`s hard on himself, and not a slacker with talent. It`s always the same thing. Guillaume Patry, he was the most talented guy in the begining of SC:BW, he made me think of Tyler in fact (Well, it;s the opposite but whatever), both werent practicing enough, and when the hardworking AND talented guy started to appear, he faded away after a year or so.

Strelok`s gonna get crushed, utterly. I read Fruit`s word and man, you got to like a guy like that. Props to Thorzain for being humble in his skills as well.

Fruitdealer fighting!! And Tyler,crush that Chobo.

Uh what? Strelok didn't say anything about non-Koreans being on par with Koreans. You just made up a quote and then claimed that it contradicts his wish for a non-Asian tournament.


Opps my bad, he got me so pissed, i think it was Thorzain who said something of this nature. But the Asian portion of the statement was bigotted regardless. You can be an asian foreigner.
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 07:25:11
March 16 2011 07:24 GMT
#70
Really didn't like Strelok's interview, he comes off as a complete ass. Won't bother to list all that bothered me but one bit:

I, as spectator, really prefer to watch very nicely prepared non-Koreans against each rather than watching the usual games of Koreans, many who don't care about this tournament. If I want to watch Koreans play, I'd go to GomTV.net.


It isn't "usual games of Koreans," it's just a few Koreans playing against mostly foreigners. Practically everyone wants to see how the top foreigners can do against the best in the world, and this TSL will finally set the stage for it.

As for those who he felt deserved to be there -
Socke, Mana, Sjow, Tarson just to mention few

These guys are good, but none would draw a crowd anywhere near the likes of FruitDealer, NesTea, MC, Mvp, Boxer etc would. In fact, I wouldn't be very excited at all were it not for all the Korean invites (including IdrA, Jinro etc), would not have even have bothered to watch most of it.

If he or anyone wants to watch non-Koreans play exclusively, there are more than enough tournaments out there for him.
DamianDante
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden8 Posts
March 16 2011 07:25 GMT
#71
really appreciate these interviews.
gives a whole new awareness to the matchup
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 07:28:17
March 16 2011 07:27 GMT
#72
I've to say I sympathize with Strelok's point about the invitees, but only because some of them definitely did not deserve to be invited based on results. This would have been less significant if the qualifying players didn't have to play their hearts out to qualify.
kenkaze291
Profile Joined March 2011
United States92 Posts
March 16 2011 07:28 GMT
#73
Excited for TSL because of all the big names coming together. Strelok seemed really angry, although its slightly understandable but the Koreans are those who have placed extremely well in past GSLs, although not going through the TL qualifiers I think that doing well in the GSL should qualify them to be in this tournament. Hope to see Koreans do well just to show him.
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 16 2011 07:30 GMT
#74
I thought Strelok's interview was cocky sounding and I didn't appreciate it. I appreciated all the invites to the tournament and I thought the qualifiers were extremely open. I was neutral on him until now, but I now look forward to Tyler Demolishing him.

Hoping for some Korean upsets as well. I think some of our foreigners (read: Idra, TLO, Jinro, Huk, Ret and maybe a few others... look for a possible QXC v. Genius upset as Genius hasn't been playing well lately) have legitimate potential to knock out Korean players.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
March 16 2011 07:39 GMT
#75
On March 16 2011 14:52 SiguR wrote:
Great interviews.

I can't wait to get all the other korean's perspective. It's rare that we get to hear them talk about events outside of korea that are important to us.


what this man said^

i'd also like to reiterate the statement about great interviews. keep em comin!
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
obviouslywow
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada12 Posts
March 16 2011 07:40 GMT
#76
Streloks comments weren't bigotted, they were more to the point that the Asian community has its own scene and hasnt really shown much interest in the western scene, so he feels they should do their thing and we can do ours, instead it feels to him like we're rolling out the red carpet for these guys while euros grind it out in the coal mines that were the TSL quals.

Understandable... but GUESS WHAT Strelok? These are the players that everybody wants to see, these are the matches everybody wants to see, and this is the tournament the fans have been waiting for for a long time! CANT WAIT!
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 07:48:07
March 16 2011 07:47 GMT
#77
Great read, I wish fruitdealer all the best :D. I hope lag wont be an issue.
Also very much agree that getting to know how the koreans feel about western tournaments is very valuable ^^. TL fighting~
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 07:50:15
March 16 2011 07:47 GMT
#78
Gogo fruitdealer

Just went back to read Strelok's interview, will not be rooting for this guy.

Don't know why he would comment about others' matches, especially Boxer. I hope he realizes that him being a pro is very much thanks to Boxer's popularity helping Esport grows in the past and even now with his Intel Razor Sponsors.

Show some respect.
kenkaze291
Profile Joined March 2011
United States92 Posts
March 16 2011 07:47 GMT
#79
I'm not exactly sure if Strelok understands how much work it is to be in the Korean seen, code A and code S. The qualifiers for code A are extremely difficult, showing that those in code S really are some of the top players from Korea that I think are more than qualified to participate in the TSL.
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
March 16 2011 07:50 GMT
#80
Clearly Strelok is afraid of the Korean players.
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