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Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
March 18 2011 00:03 GMT
#341
On March 17 2011 04:03 rafaliusz wrote:
I'm suprised how many people are bashing Strelok here, he's totally right. But when I think about it most of these people are very new to Starcraft, e-sport and competitive gaming. You guys don't even know how it was before SC2, koreans didn't give a shit to foreign scene for 10 years, why would we start inviting them to our events? To be politically correct and avoid those ridiculous "stop being racist" comments? That is insane.
Moreover there is another obvious reason. All these top korean pros will just own foreigners, before IEM nobody really knew how big the skill gap between these two scenes is. Now we know that we can't match with them in skill and the foreigner-v-korean games will be completely one-sided. I guess TL didn't know that before invites and even I thought that the gap is not that huge. If there are smart people in TL staff I'm sure they regret their decision and are scared of the upcoming games. I suspect that TSL4 will be foreign-only again.


i dont mind watching koreans crush NA/euro players. it's quite entertaining.
VonDarkmore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
March 18 2011 01:54 GMT
#342
Great job TL, really good to see the players thoughts on other people and themselves excellent question list.
The best of luck to them all specially Tyler who has a tough bracket and fruit dealer who is being a bit hard on himself
One who understands much displays a greater simplicity of character than one who understands little
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
March 18 2011 04:48 GMT
#343
On March 18 2011 07:53 Blueblister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2011 07:09 maybenexttime wrote:
On March 17 2011 06:30 MorroW wrote:
i think strelok said that its silly to invite foreigners who are living in korea as 'korean invites'. he thinks jinro and idra etc would have to qualify just like the rest of us, which i think wouldnt be too unfair. again im not sure if strelok meant this or not but this is what i got from it :p

on a sidenote, nice interviews but cant help to think ive been trolled by FD bashing on my zvz xD


The reason why they invited some of the foreigners living in Korea is because Asia as a whole was excluded from the qualifies - based on location, not country of origin, and due to logisticl reasons.

Had they allowed Jinro, HuK, etc. qualify, they would've had to allow other people currently residing in Asian countries participate in some kind of a qualifier. They had stated they are currently incapable of handling something of this magnitude.

I think the system was fine with all that in mind.

No they wouldn't, they could just have allowed foreigners living in Korea to participate and thereby making them ineligible from being invites.

Strelok has a valid point. As the invites was obviously based on (1) promoting players on Team Liquid (2) popularity and only lastly results it undermines the "logistical argument". An invite system put in place to replace a qualification system would only be based on results.


The "logistical argument" is also language barrier. Yes, there's Korean/English speaking people involved who invited the Korean players currently in TSL3, but if there were opens, that's a considerably larger number of players to coordinate, and instead of simply a bracket and a schedule, there has to be explanations for how the qualifiers work, and so on. It's not impossible by any means, but TL only has so much resources since it's volunteer work, generally.

I can see how it feels unfair to work so hard solely to get into TSL and have others simply invited, but I'd rather see us welcoming Koreans as potential friends and guests into the foreign community, which is at least one reason why FD's interview was a bit generic (guests should be manner too). His interview already referenced, in which he jokes about the Infested Terran against Nada on Arkanoid, was fantastic and anything but the "typical" some are complaining about.
Dasdude
Profile Joined November 2010
United States45 Posts
March 18 2011 05:01 GMT
#344
Fruitdealer has such a badass pic. It's all white guys in weird poses (still love you Tyler!) and then this beastly Korean with a smirk, looking down upon the camera... I still think he's going to roll Thorzain, no matter what he thinks himself.
"The sun's either going to rise tomorrow, or turn into a tomato..." -iNcontroL on Fruitdealer vs Thorzain
Quote?
ct2299
Profile Joined February 2011
380 Posts
March 20 2011 03:36 GMT
#345
BL Strelok, you lost.
Not wanting Koreans in the tournament is only because you don't think you can win against them, but I guess we'll never see. :X
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
March 20 2011 04:52 GMT
#346
Looks like Strelok doesn't need to worry about Korean domination; North America was more than he could handle.

Tyler Fighting!
curlfry
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia103 Posts
March 20 2011 10:30 GMT
#347
thorzain gunna win the tsl, he just owned fruit dealer without trying
the French are effectively gypsies with a steady income
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