EPTOn February 21 2011 02:17 ReaperX wrote:
AWESOME, but where's MKP???
AWESOME, but where's MKP???
read the OP.....
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mitthrawn
Germany443 Posts
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kommunalka
United States550 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
BOXER NADA CAN'T GET BETTER! | ||
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Slardar
Canada7595 Posts
On February 20 2011 16:33 Plexa wrote: By the same reasoning we should have invited Rainbow since he placed 2nd in S1 and made the semifinals in S2. Further, Rainbow had more consistent results than MKP over the first season three seasons of GSL so we should have invited Rainbow over MKP and loner  . You don't hear people calling for Rainbow to be invited now do you? The primary reason MKP has so much support is because he made a second final - something we could never have anticipated. He's pretty much the Terran revolutionist. I wasn't sold on MarineKing but... bit by bit he showed some remarkable macro talent. Incredibly offensive, all over the map, very skillful and elegant like a soccer player. Especially those macro games he played vs Jinro with the hyper-aggressive bio. To be fair, MVP came out of nowhere as well. Just a BW pro that I've never heard of switched over and is dominating(considering I've followed BW for ages, and still do now.) On February 20 2011 17:14 Plexa wrote: What non-GSL tournaments are these? Gainward where he got stomped by MVP? Gisado where he didn't shine either? Ygosu invite? (i don't even know where he placed in this). He placed 3rd in the Gainward, behind MVP & Nestea. In his defense, everyone is getting stomped by MVP. Now I'm actually surprised with all this higher-up hate of MKP. Jinro called the hit out on him, when he beat him in GSL? Mafiarolled ^^ *edit* Maybe I just don't watch Woongjin stars | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
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Vantastic
United States112 Posts
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tSaR
United States22 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On February 21 2011 02:54 Slardar wrote: He's pretty much the Terran revolutionist. I wasn't sold on MarineKing but... bit by bit he showed some remarkable macro talent. Incredibly offensive, all over the map, very skillful and elegant like a soccer player. Especially those macro games he played vs Jinro with the hyper-aggressive bio. To be fair, MVP came out of nowhere as well. Just a BW pro that I've never heard of switched over and is dominating(considering I've followed BW for ages, and still do now.) He placed 3rd in the Gainward, behind MVP & Nestea. In his defense, everyone is getting stomped by MVP. Now I'm actually surprised with all this higher-up hate of MKP. Jinro called the hit out on him, when he beat him in GSL? Mafiarolled ^^ There's no higher up hate of MKP. Simply that when we were sending out invites there was no reason to invite him, unless he ended up winning GSLS4 (which he didn't). | ||
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
For the offline events he came in second to Kyrix in the all stars event and in the Gainward tournament made it to the semis and lost to MVP. Stomped by MVP, who hasnt been lately? Alsom he did manage to take a game?. Again, great results. Not to mention his revolutionary and exciting style that he added even before season 4 had started. Great micro and unique strategies. He wasn't afraid to cheese, win with a timing attack, or turtle to win a long game. He defeated Rainbow 4-1 head to head and showed better results than him in every GSL and offline event after GSL 1. Even a blind man could tell he was a far superior player at the time of the selctions and the selection of not choosing rainbow showed this. And the last thing I wanted to mention were his contributions to the foreign community specifically this site are probably overlooked by many. If anyone is or was familar with the iccup who is who thread you know who Clare is. Clare was a progamer who played on the MBC Hero B team. He would go into the iccup thread and post replays to be analyzed. From this the replay sleuths could find match the hotkeys with the smurfs of many different pro players. He provided hundreds of replays that entertained me and many others. He played games against Bisu, Idra other pros. Many people enjoyed watching the progamers he played against as well as watching his replays for entertainment value. Clare went on to become MarineKingPrime. I don't think any Korean pros provided replays like him and if they did surely not as many and this service was something that I don't think should be forgotten. Did teamliquid make the wrong call not picking MarineKing? Maybe yes maybe no. In my opinion they made a mistake. If I had to pick a person to replace it would be Loner and if not him Genius. The Blizzcon results just dont weigh too heavily in my mind. I obviously understand the Liquid players can't be sent to Korea and then not invited to TSL even if some of their results don't even remotely compare to MarineKing's. This is still going to be a great tournament and I am still going to watch and tell my friends to watch. Though when the announcement was made I have to say the tournament got a little less exciting for me. | ||
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Jonas :)
United States511 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Sure MKP is a really great player, but guys, we have Loner, Nada, Boxer, MVP, and JINRO!. I see no reason to complain. | ||
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Tygaa
United States40 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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yScale
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but NaDa and Boxer is kinda orgasmic too | ||
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
Team Liquid Staff Hwaiting! | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
I would've liked to see TheStC invited, but that's because I'm a huge fanboy. I know he hasn't done much to be notable recently, but I think he's just a beastly player. :p | ||
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UFO
582 Posts
I understand that there are reasons why he isn`t invited but I don`t like this reason. I respect your decision, since its your tournament and you certainly chose what you thought was best. However, I will point out that Loner has no fucking right to be there if we are taking raw skill into account and nothing else. Loner`s invitation has little to do with his skill. Almost all of the Code S terrans are better than him, as well as many Code A terrans. Basicly the only way to explain this invitation is to realize that Loner is from China. . Loner was one of two Chinese invites to Blizzcon 2010 and finished in second place behind Genius. Loner also qualified for Code A in the GSL and was able to retain Code A status for this upcoming season. Based on this, we felt that Loner was the strongest representative from China and thus received an invite. This is not bad of an achievement but in comparision to a player like MarineKingPrime its pitiful, pathetic, to the degree of not even being worth mentioning. I said that I respect your choice but I will repeat - I don`t like it. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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samboi
England69 Posts
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Poocs
94 Posts
On February 21 2011 04:29 Zorgaz wrote: You guys should focus on all the great invites instead of the ''Oh no i want MKP''. Sure MKP is a really great player, but guys, we have Loner, Nada, Boxer, MVP, and JINRO!. I see no reason to complain. I don't think it's about wanting MKP in particular. The same argument can be made for Rainbow that he deserves to be invited more than the other Koreans. But just reading this thread tells you that Boxer and Nada are what most want to see. I guess Loner is for the handful of Chinese spectators....? Strictly business baby, strictly business. | ||
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3 out of 5 of these terrans can be replaced..
