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[TSL] Mid Way

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[TSL] Mid Way

Text byHeyoka
February 11th, 2011 16:55 GMT
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Last weekend, TSL qualifiers ploughed through the halfway point and began heading for the home stretch. While some things have been set in stone, much remains undecided. Expansions have been contested, matches fought, cheeses defended and timing attacks broken. Clawing their way through the ranks, some have fought tooth and nail to secure a spot within the TSL.

Right behind them, there are a number of top gamers making their presence known and looking for that break out performance. With 3 weeks left, it is far from over and still very much anyone's game. As the full roster takes shape there are interesting trends and points of interest, some details worth nothing when looking at the coming qualifiers.

Lets take a moment to look at who is winning, and what it all means in the big picture.

Brood Warcraft


White-Ra is the only player with primarily Brood War experience to have won an open. Kas, Naniwa, Cruncher, and Thorzain all hail from the land of heroes and upkeep, perhaps showing the transition from creeping to macroing less difficult than sometimes thought. However when we look to the TSL ladder, things are a little more balanced. The top 16 is largely Brood War veterans. 11 of the players can claim familiarity with Brood War, while Warcraft has 5 representatives (Ciara, Stephano, beastyqt, Kiwikaki, and Sjow).

Hidden amongst the ladder are the Brood War heroes of previous TSLs - Morrow, Mana, Cloud and Strelok to name a few. So while the Warcraft 3 guys are stealing all of the instant qualification places, the Brood War vets are saturating the ladder and all putting themselves in strong positions heading into the final three TSL qualifiers. Looking at our top 16 and qualified players in their entirety there is a heartening balance between the two RTSs.

With a American focused qualifier coming up this weekend, its likely there's going to be another non-Brood War player qualifying for the TSL. The heavy hitters heading into this weekend are obviously KiWiKaKi, Select and Fenix with TT1 (BW), mOoNan (BW), Nerchio and Axslav (WC3) looking to make their lives difficult. After their performances in last weeks TSL Qualifier, KiWi and Select are certainly favourites to secure their spot in the TSL with Fenix likely to go deep.

It looks as if some of the big heroes from both sides are going to miss out on this TSL. Grubby, despite giving it his best efforts, is still struggling to break into the points. We shouldn't be too harsh on him though, he has only recently started playing both SC2 and WC3 simultaneously and has improved dramatically since he first began. ToD has also struggled to make another point scoring run and is sitting very low on the table with 14 points. Brat_OK, the hero of TSL1, is also struggling to score points and sits on 14 as well. However, he has been hit with a bout of Gastric Ulcers (which prevented him from attending assembly) so unless he pulls out a superhuman effort it's unlikely he'll make the cut off either. DeMuslim also is going to be MIA this season due to breaking his arm meaning one of the brightest WC3-SC2 converts is going to be absent.


The Swarm?


No matter where you look, the Swarm are taking a beating. In Korea we've just gone through the GSTL where teams were hesitant to play Zergs. In Europe, Terrans and Protoss are stealing all the major tournament wins (barring Dimaga's monthly ESL win). In the US the story is pretty much the same. The TSL has been no exception. In the first 5 tournaments, Protoss players won 3 times with Terran taking the other 2. In fact, Ciara is the only zerg to have even made it to the finals. Only 6(ish) Zergs have made it to the final 8: Sheth, Junny, Stephano, Morrow, DarKFoRcE and Nerchio (he's more of a Zerg than anything else, let's face it).

So is there any hope at all for the Swarm at all? Actually, yeah the news isn't all bad! Morrow recently won a Go4SC2 ESL weekly tournament over DieStar. DarKFoRcE and Tefel squared off in a ZvZ final in last weeks Zotac cup. We've also seen some really strong play out of the unknown Zergs Junny and Stephano, both of whom look poised to make more deep runs in upcoming qualifiers. There are also a few Zergs who might turn up and win a qualifier - Slush comes to mind as Zerg capable of doing this.

But let's face it, the way things are going the majority of the Zerg qualifiers are going to come in off of the ladder. The standings are slightly more promising for the overmind. Ciara and Stephano are currently in good spots to qualify, potentially another 1/3 if we want to count TLO. Junny, Darkforce, and Morrow all have good a chance of shooting up the standings with some nice tournament runs as well.

Swarm fans can also look forward to a phenomenal lineup of Zerg invites from Korea, which of course will be announced right before the TSL Qualifier Finals are played (so don't miss it!)

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Assembly


This weekend is Assembly, one of several large LAN gatherings that also runs a major tournament. In addition to meaning this weekend will have more good SC2 action than normal, it also means that the open will have a European light field. Nobody has to worry about running into TLO in a best of 3.

It doesn't stop there. Darkforce (currently 15th place), Tarson (31st), QXC (23rd), Strelok (10th), Lalush (31st), Sjow (16th), Morrow (16th), Adelscott (3rd), elfi (23rd), Brat_OK (31st), Hasuobs (23rd), and ToD (31st) are all participating. That's just the names of people currently on the standings board too, its always possible that someone like Socke or Grubby wakes up one morning and decides to win a tournament.

With that said, there is a small possibility that some of the assembly players will turn up to the TSL Qualifiers. The latest word from Assembly is that there are plenty of PCs available for the gamers to use outside of the LAN. If the players lose before 6pm tomorrow (DarKFoRcE for instance, who has gone out in the group stage) then they should be able to turn up the TSL Qualifiers - if they can resist the other temptations that LANs have to offer!

The end result of this is that this weekend will likely have a strong North American field and that means it's more likely that we'll have a North American winner this weekend. Further, expect the North Americans on the Ladder to gain a lot of ground back on the Europeans this weekend. With only three qualifiers left, this week is extremely important for everyone vying for a spot in the TSL.


Being a big name in Starcraft 2 means a lot. It means that you are going to be receiving many invites to top level tournaments with nice prize pools. It also means that you are going to have a large fan base. It also means that you can secure some nice sponsorships for yourself and get signed to a good team. The TSL Qualifiers have had a surprisingly lack of big names making it. Curious as to why this is, the TSL coverage team sent out tree.hugger to do some investigative journalism to get to the bottom of why the big names of Starcraft 2 weren't qualifying for the TSL.

What's In a Name?
By tree.hugger

Well, it depends, of course.

But for the TSL qualifiers and leading point getters, name value has been surprisingly useless. Half of the MLG finalists, and the winners of Dreamhack and all four major IEM events have not secured their qualification, and only one (Fenix) is within the points range. Powerhouse teams like Dignitas, EG, ROOT, and mousesports have a only one qualifier (d.NaNiwa) between them, and he initially qualified as a member of Empire. Meanwhile, lesser known players and teams have completely stolen the spotlight. Names like coL.CrunCher, PraeThorZaIN, ieS.Ciara, Mill.Adelscott, Mill.Stephano, Empire.Beastyqt, and FXOAllAboutYou adorn the leaderboard, each players who boasted a significantly smaller following before their TLOpen performances. The most recent winner; Thorzain even admitted that he had avoided going to Dreamhack because he didn't think he could compete at that time.

So what gives?

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Who??


1. It's the Bo1 format! Big names are getting cheesed out early!


Not so, in fact. While every TLOpen does bring the speedy elimination of several players in the Bo1 rounds—and occasionally creates matches like #5's third round battle between KiWiKaKi and merz—the vast majority of big name players make it to the round of 32, which is where the Bo3 format begins, and where the big name players typically coalesce. Further, there has been no player who has been tremendously victimized by the Bo1 format in multiple tournaments. One of the most notable non-qualified players; the IEM Europe Champion Sjow has made the Round of 32's each time he's entered, and hasn't advanced past the Ro8. And who can forget the luck of iNcontroL who hasn't been able to overcome the Ro32.

2. It's just a run of luck for the winners!

Winning or placing high in such a difficult tournament undoubtedly requires some luck. But luck alone is a poor explanation for how CrunCher swept two big names in Fenix and KiWiKaki, while also taking out a bushel of lesser known players in Beastyqt, Ciara, and Stephano. Or how ThorZaIN swept ClouD in his winning run and Hasuobs in his semi-final placement. And the testament of the thousands on streams can testify that these players succeeded without the help of gimmicks or cheese. Instead, they dominated their opponents with solid and tenacious play as Plexa has highlighted each week in his battle reports. They outlasted players they had to outlast, and broke players who stretched themselves too thin. It's hard to find a single undeserving player who made a deep run. It's nearly impossible.

3. These players wouldn't be poorly known if people were paying attention!


I'm sympathetic to this argument, in part because Warcraft III fans know half or more of these guys. But even this explanation doesn't cover the multitude of major tournaments in which these players weren't a presence. It can't simply be the case that all of these players have been completely ignored by the community for some reason. That kind of collusion is fantasy. The fact is that the IEM winners, the MLG runner-ups, and the Dreamhack finalists are all sitting outside of the loop.

So... could it be...?

4. It's the TSL. These guys are good.

It's a big world out there. As much as it might be painful that some of the biggest names in Sc2 might be left out of this TSL, that's the way it is. And moreover, that's the way it always is. Perhaps the lack of presence of the qualifiers in other major tournaments is a reflection of how invite-only focused the community has become. If the TSL's have a legacy of doing anything, it's introducing players to the community in a way that no invite-driven LAN or weekly cup can do. Players who otherwise would be ignored because they lack the cult following that other players have have an opportunity to shine and surprise us all thanks to the open nature of the TSL. Sc2 is a game with broad shoulders, and what this TSL ought to teach us is that there are a whole lot more brilliant players out there then the ones we already know. In fact, they're the best of the best. And after this TSL, some will go on to become just as well known as anyone else. For many, the TSL will be the defining moment in their career - the moment when the scene stopped and took notice of them. This certainly was the case for Brat_OK and IefNaij in TSL Season 1.

So while I'd love to see _____ against MC, and ______ against Genius, I'm equally proud to cheer for any player who runs through the TLOpen gauntlet, because I know they'll throw down harder than a player who couldn't make it through.


Three qualifiers remain, which means eleven spots have yet to be filled (three winners as well as the top eight players in points). This weekend we will fill another slot, as well as continue laying the mortar that will become the final point standings. Time marches on, and with every qualifier we become one step closer to the main event. Join us in the coming weeks to figure out who is deserving and who will fall short. Many hope to earn their place, only a few will be fortunate enough to make it.

Happy watching.


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Sea.3PO
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada77 Posts
February 11 2011 16:59 GMT
#2
What was Moonan's id when he played broodwar?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 17:03:11
February 11 2011 17:02 GMT
#3
On February 12 2011 01:59 Sea.3PO wrote:
What was Moonan's id when he played broodwar?

Good question! I wish I knew ^^ all I know is that he was trying out for KT. There's quite a bit of information on his Liquidpedia page, that'd be a good place to start.

Nice writeup guys!
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meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
February 11 2011 17:04 GMT
#4
The poor zergs
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bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
February 11 2011 17:07 GMT
#5
I'll be so sad if the Koreans sweep the TSL, so very, very sad.
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
February 11 2011 17:07 GMT
#6
Awesome writeup, I'm getting really hyped for TSL now.

Some big names are always going to be knocked out, I just hope that in the end we will get to watch exciting games!
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
February 11 2011 17:08 GMT
#7
This is great! i am really glad to be able to see some new names of people. I like not having an invite-only tournament!
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
February 11 2011 17:14 GMT
#8
Only 2 zerg and 1 toss on ladder

Toss won 3 qualifier though
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FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
February 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#9
Great Im rooting for fellow BW brethren to make it into the TSL, WC3 crowd is stealing our thunder. It saddens me to kno that two of the players i really want to make it in are from 'that' group. So is Select WC3 as well?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#10
On February 12 2011 02:30 FlashIsHigh wrote:
Great Im rooting for fellow BW brethren to make it into the TSL, WC3 crowd is stealing our thunder. It saddens me to kno that two of the players i really want to make it in are from 'that' group. So is Select WC3 as well?

Select I consider to be a Dawn of War player since that's where he achieved his biggest successes.
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Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
February 11 2011 17:35 GMT
#11
I was somewhat disconcerned as so many big names will it miss out but this wouldnt be TSL if there wouldnt be a rising star in it, so go Thorzain!
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hiyo_bye
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States737 Posts
February 11 2011 17:41 GMT
#12
Good luck to the War3 players; prove that macro is overrated
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Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
February 11 2011 17:43 GMT
#13
Awesome write up indeed. Looking forward to new players making a name for themselves.

... but I'm rooting for Kiwikaki to qualify!
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
February 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#14
I agree that there have been too much invite tournaments around. I also think that IM.Jonghwa or ST.Squirtle are better protoss players than Genius. It's just that they didn't have the chance to gain fame.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 11 2011 17:47 GMT
#15
Awesome write up, Imo people really dont pay enough attention to the weekly tournaments, its quite easy to see these upcoming underraated players from paying attention to craftcups/go4sc2/viking cups/zotac.

I really hope mym's new zerg xlord is playing in this tournament as hes definitely on the rise, him and moonan i think will place well
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FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
February 11 2011 17:50 GMT
#16
On February 12 2011 01:59 Sea.3PO wrote:
What was Moonan's id when he played broodwar?


Isn't moonan = allaboutyou?
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
February 11 2011 18:04 GMT
#17
Thank you for the excellent write up. Looking forward to TSL3!
Brood War forever!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 11 2011 18:10 GMT
#18
On February 12 2011 02:47 shaunnn wrote:
Awesome write up, Imo people really dont pay enough attention to the weekly tournaments, its quite easy to see these upcoming underraated players from paying attention to craftcups/go4sc2/viking cups/zotac.


There are so many its hard to keep up -- luckily Plexa somehow knows every player in all of them.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 18:17:13
February 11 2011 18:17 GMT
#19
This is a sick article. Great job, guys.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
February 11 2011 18:29 GMT
#20
On February 12 2011 02:50 FortuneSyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:59 Sea.3PO wrote:
What was Moonan's id when he played broodwar?


Isn't moonan = allaboutyou?


Yea on sc2 but I don't think that was his broodwar name
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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
February 11 2011 19:02 GMT
#21
This was a great read, thank you TSL has so much hype I feel it can't get started sooner!
really?
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 19:45:30
February 11 2011 19:30 GMT
#22
This is a really well written article. I really enjoyed it (moreso than the usual team liquid article).
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 20:12:23
February 11 2011 20:08 GMT
#23
Whatttttt? I am from the CS scene? That can't be! I played SCBW but not at competetive level only C+/B- on icc. Counter Strike was just for fun to play with friends
Before Starcraft 2 i played alot of games like MMORPGs, FPSs etc ^^ but it's hard to say that i was from CS scene
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 11 2011 20:37 GMT
#24
917 people just signed up for this Open. I wouldn't be surprised if around 200 fail to check-in on time. >.>
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
February 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#25
U put Darkforce in the BW section, but he actually played warcraft before sc2.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 11 2011 22:07 GMT
#26
The "What's In a Name?" by tree.hugger was such a necessity for me. Even though I'm not ignorant of the TSL's past, I found myself still a little upset and disappointed at the current unfolding of the brand new installment of this TSL.

Thanks for setting me back on track. This tourney is going to be great.

Here's to the underdogs!
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Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 11 2011 22:13 GMT
#27
Very informative write up. Nice ;D
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
February 11 2011 23:33 GMT
#28
Good read. Makes me look forward to TSL even more!
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
February 12 2011 00:59 GMT
#29
great article and I really liked the conclusion that the players qualifying are doing so because they are good and how they arent really the big names because there are just too many big tournaments who do invites only. It had to be said. gj!
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UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
February 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#30
Great article.

Btw paragraphy 3: With a American focused qualifier

should be "an American"
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leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
February 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#31
good read.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 12 2011 02:03 GMT
#32
On February 12 2011 05:08 Nerchio wrote:
Whatttttt? I am from the CS scene? That can't be! I played SCBW but not at competetive level only C+/B- on icc. Counter Strike was just for fun to play with friends
Before Starcraft 2 i played alot of games like MMORPGs, FPSs etc ^^ but it's hard to say that i was from CS scene

Let's just say that you're awesome and leave it at that then xD
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thesmoosh
Profile Joined September 2010
113 Posts
February 12 2011 02:42 GMT
#33
What good would big name players be if they weren't in their top form and if they are in their top form then they'll qualify (see TLO). I don't want to see a bunch of famous EU/US players get rolled by the Korea invites.

I think perhaps for the next TSL giving points (however minor) to the top 32 would be better than the top 16, as there should be a difference between someone like inControl and someone who gets knocked out in the first round every time.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
February 12 2011 03:15 GMT
#34
On February 12 2011 02:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:59 Sea.3PO wrote:
What was Moonan's id when he played broodwar?

Good question! I wish I knew ^^ all I know is that he was trying out for KT. There's quite a bit of information on his Liquidpedia page, that'd be a good place to start.

Nice writeup guys!

I believe mOoNan was his BW id, and he changed to allaboutyou for SC2. He said he hated the ID allaboutyou (I kinda liked it :o) so changed back to his old BW name when he joined FXOpen e-Sports. If it was not his ID that he applied to KTF with, then it might have been an ID he used on battle.net or something.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 12 2011 03:15 GMT
#35
They aren't going to change policy within the middle of the ongoing tournament qualifiers. Seriously. I assure you, everyone who makes it will practice their asses off to win the entire thing.
staxringold
Profile Joined October 2010
United States173 Posts
February 12 2011 04:15 GMT
#36
Fantastic read, thanks for this!
Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
February 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#37
nice read, I'm getting hyped for TSL!
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 12 2011 09:32 GMT
#38
nice article, i'm looking forward for the Zerg lineup announcement
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 10:07:01
February 12 2011 09:54 GMT
#39
On February 12 2011 02:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:59 Sea.3PO wrote:
What was Moonan's id when he played broodwar?

Good question! I wish I knew ^^ all I know is that he was trying out for KT. There's quite a bit of information on his Liquidpedia page, that'd be a good place to start.

Nice writeup guys!


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Katowice25012 Posts
February 12 2011 12:49 GMT
#40
thanks GTR, I've been wondering that. sick that you dug up the source.
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February 13 2011 18:33 GMT
#41
great writeup, will be interesting to see who qualifies next tour
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Sweden3804 Posts
February 14 2011 04:03 GMT
#42
Awesome writeup. I hope sjow can get into the TSL, but as his points havn't really moved for quite a while, I'm wondering if he's even trying.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
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