The PokerStrategy.com TSL seeks to bring our disparate community together in a single tournament to determine a true international champion. You've been enjoying the clash between the Europeans and the Americans every week during the TSL Qualifiers, and we've got eight of out thirty-two spots locked. You can catch up on the results of the TSL Qualifiers so far here. Now we turn our eyes to Asia as we begin to unveil our thirteen mystery invites.
We know you've been eagerly anticipating who we've invited into the TSL, but we're going to have to make you wait just a little bit longer to find out the complete list. Each week we will unveil the invites from one race. This week we are announcing the Protoss invites. Next week we will announce the Zerg invites and the following week we will announce the Terran invites. Before we get into the Protoss invites, you might like to enter our raffle by completing the quiz over at PokerStrategy.com - you never know, you might be the lucky person getting an all expenses paid trip to Korea!
After qualifying for GSL Season 2, NsPGenius said this in his interview:
Q. You’re being considered one of the top Protosses. A. People compare me a lot with sSKS, but since he didn’t qualify this time, I think I’m the top protoss (laughs).
It's comments like these which have gained him an anti-following in Korea. Some progamers have actively conspired to train together to beat him. Is it because they don't like his attitude? Possibly. But more likely it's because he's a damn scary opponent. He was the winner of the Blizzcon Korean Qualifier tournament over Maka and followed that up with a Blizzcon win over Loner. Despite the GSL title eluding him, he is still one of the most accomplished Protoss in the world. His early exits in GSL1 and 3 were due to some crazy Terran all-in play which is indicative of how other players perceive him. His tremendous skill intimidates his opponents and he is a worthy competitor in this season of the TSL.
You've watched his stream. You've seen him at MLG. You've seen him warp in the Hukership. Now you're going to watch him in the TSL. Hailing from Canada, TLAF-Liquid`Huk has been at the forefront of Starcraft II since the beta and boasts multiple tournament wins. Perhaps most impressive is his win was at MLG Raleigh over KiWiKaKi. Together with his performances at MLG D.C. and MLG Dallas, Huk was the #1 Ranked player for the 2010 MLG Procircuit. Since the conclusion of MLG D.C., Huk has been training in Korea in the Liquid-oGs house and will be participating in the upcoming GSL Code A matches as he was a recipient of one of the Code A seeds. Huk has temporarily left Korea to participate in some international events. You'll get to see him in action at the Assembly Winter in Helsinki next weekend as well as a number of smaller events during the week. Huk is a player to look out for as he currently holds the #7 place on the Korean Ladder meaning his play is solid, fearsome and consistently good.
There was a time when the world was wondering whether we'd have a Protoss make the Round of 8 of a GSL. Then oGsMC came along and took the scene by storm with his exhilarating aggressive style of play. One by one, he decimated his competitors in GSL S3 and was eventually crowned champion. In doing so he became a beacon of hope for all the struggling Protoss users out there. Despite poor results before GSLS3, MC was regarded as one of the strongest Protoss in Korea noted for his incredible mechanics. MC was also the first active SC1 Progamer to switch to SC2 and was on the MBCHeroes A-Team before his switch. While his official SC1 record was lacking, he was about to make waves on the scene as he playing exceptionally well in the KeSPA Dream League boasting a 10-3 record. We got to learn a lot about MC's personality through the show "Hyungjoon Becomes a Progamer". Despite his fun loving personality, MC means business. He epitomises the killer instinct and is going to be a competitor everyone looks to avoid in the TSL.
There are now ten invites remaining. The next invite announcement will take place at the same time next week - on air, just before the finals of the TSL Qualifier #6 on the official TeamLiquid stream. A news post will also be moved out to accompany the on air announcement, just in case you miss the cast! Don't forget, next week we will be announcing our Zerg invites - let the speculation run wild!
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zerg invites, IdrA for sure who else, Fruit and Nestea? would they participate? hmm if tester wasn't invited, or couldn't make it, then i doubt FD will come along
If MC and Genius are coming, there's no reason to assume anyone else would decline. They MIGHT, but I wouldn't expect it.
Zerg pretty much HAS to be Nestea, FD and Idra, and then probably one more? Probably just Ret imo. Picks like Moon or July would be interesting too, if less likely.
Terran invites are almost impossible to guess because there are so many, but if they're smart they'll do everything they can to get Boxer and Nada, and kick the hype into overdrive. Jinro's probably a lock. Other top candidates would be like MVP, Foxer, Top, and then there's always guys like Byun, sC and Rainbow that might make it in.
Christ this line up is gonna be sick no matter what I think
OMG! Im so pumped.. cant wait! I love the liquid-oGs companionship, and to have MC on TSL will be so epic. Gonna watch the tyler hype vid after this on highest volume to just make the goose bumps explode! :D AWESOME! Kill me now and I can die a happy man ♥
On February 06 2011 07:14 PartyBiscuit wrote: It would be insane if MVP would be accept a T invite and Nestea/FD for a Z invite - all the GSL champs vie for TSL.
Mvp/Nestea will for sure get an invite and will accept 100% sure, even if they are in GSL they are not going to say no to an online tournament with this much money.
FD havent done much since first GSL so not sure if he should get one imo.
Even though I would've liked Tester to get an invite, I know he hasn't been playing his best lately and having these three guys play in the TSL gives me chills all over!
Dam good choices. MC and Genius have been the most consistent protoss in korea (tester being up and down) and huk is the best foriegner there. I wonder if this means the zerg choices will be Idra/Nestea/FD and the terran MVP/Jinro and either MKP or Rainbow
On February 06 2011 07:41 Mattes wrote: Hmmm...3 Protoss out of 13 Invites..
We can asume that jinro/mkp/mvp as T and nestea/fruitdealer/idra as Z would be the logical choice for the other races.
Thats 9 out of 13...
Ret? Maybe. Haypro? Would be kinda unjustified. NaDa/Boxer? Would for sure be an immense hype-boost for TSL3.
Personally id like to see rainbow/clide/kyrix getting an invite.
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oh i forgot
AWESOME MC IN TSL3!! *nerdgasm*
also the way HuK kind of "dominates" the korean ladder with two accounts in the top 15...will be interesting to see how his play has evolved.
Agreed on the terren and zerg view. I feel kinda sad for haypro but he didn't really deserved it... but ret accomplished not that much more i guess but i feel he is just better. I must admit if they get boxer/nada into this.... it's gonna be ...the most orgasmic tournament of all times.
If teamliquid gets Boxer to play this tournament is going to be 10X more epic than it already is, which is 10 X more epic than anything we've seen so far.
Jesus, this is getting so fearsome.
my hopes: Terran invites: Jinro, MarineKing/MvP, Boxer, NaDa.. maybe even RainBow (I think he just fits in for some strange reason, being an old-oldschool SC1 player)
On February 06 2011 08:33 godemperor wrote: I feel bad for TLO he is the only one on TL who has to work to be in TSL. But i does seems hes going to be there.
I'm kinda hoping (and expecting) that TL leaves one or two spare invites for when all qualifiers are over, and then run a huge poll on who to 'save' and bring into TSL3 in the last second. That way they can count on TLO having another good chance of qualifying, as all other big names that would compete with him in the poll will already be qualified.
On February 06 2011 08:33 godemperor wrote: I feel bad for TLO he is the only one on TL who has to work to be in TSL. But i does seems hes going to be there.
I'm kinda hoping (and expecting) that TL leaves one or two spare invites for when all qualifiers are over, and then run a huge poll on who to 'save' and bring into TSL3 in the last second. That way they can count on TLO having another good chance of qualifying, as all other big names that would compete with him in the poll will already be qualified.
I don't think you have to worry about TLO not making it in. He's almost sure to get one of the spots from rank points at this point.
wow, wow, wow. I was getting a bit worried the TSL might not be as appealing with alot of unknown names getting far or winning the TL opens. B ut the more recent winners, and now MC... Wow, wow, wow, so looking forward to to TSL 3.
You know the more I think about it the less I like Genius as a pick. I think outside of his Blizzcon win he hasn't been that stellar. There were several better choices available imo.
But then again it's probably more about "invite the blizzcon champion" then anything else I guess.
On February 06 2011 08:57 Phayt wrote: You know the more I think about it the less I like Genius as a pick. I think outside of his Blizzcon win he hasn't been that stellar. There were several better choices available imo.
But then again it's probably more about "invite the blizzcon champion" then anything else I guess.
Anyone else feel the same?
The only one I can think of is tester, and he's not been so good as of late as well. You think HongUn, Choya, Anypro, or GuineaPig would be better invites? There's just not so many korean server truly good protosses. Genius is fine
On February 06 2011 08:57 Phayt wrote: You know the more I think about it the less I like Genius as a pick. I think outside of his Blizzcon win he hasn't been that stellar. There were several better choices available imo.
But then again it's probably more about "invite the blizzcon champion" then anything else I guess.
Anyone else feel the same?
The only one I can think of is tester, and he's not been so good as of late as well. You think HongUn, Choya, Anypro, or GuineaPig would be better invites? There's just not so many korean server truly good protosses. Genius is fine
Choya is a no no due to the scandal (rock paper scissor) and not so popular among foreigners Hong Un is cheesy so yeh not a good choice Anypro and Guinea haven't have much of a success to be invited
I think Tester would be a better choice then Genius, but mostly for publicity, not because I think he's any more impressive (they're about the same in my eyes).
I'd personally really like to see guys like Choya, Squirtle, HongUn, maybe SangHo or Inca.
I dunno I guess there aren't really that many great protoss players that kinda jump out as being ahead of the rest, but I just find Genius to be relatively mediocre(relative to other top players and not players in general, of course)
I can't help but think the 13 Korean invites kinda trivialise the hard work people are putting in week on week in the TLOpens (which only 15 people can do) but I guess if TL don't think its worth putting out an even playing field by hosting an open tournament on KR theres not much which can be done.
On February 06 2011 08:33 godemperor wrote: I feel bad for TLO he is the only one on TL who has to work to be in TSL. But i does seems hes going to be there.
I'm kinda hoping (and expecting) that TL leaves one or two spare invites for when all qualifiers are over, and then run a huge poll on who to 'save' and bring into TSL3 in the last second. That way they can count on TLO having another good chance of qualifying, as all other big names that would compete with him in the poll will already be qualified.
I think TLO has basically already qualified, considering the points he already has. It's impossible for 8 players to get over 151 points when there's only 3 qualifiers left.
I can't help but think the 13 Korean invites kinda trivialise the hard work people are putting in week on week in the TLOpens (which only 15 people can do) but I guess if TL don't think its worth putting out an even playing field by hosting an open tournament on KR theres not much which can be done.
No offense, but I kind of feel like the players who qualified through TSL so far are going to be crushed by the Korean players. In my opinion, there have been a lot of obscure qualifiers through TSL. And you have to keep in mind TSL is not a one-day tournament (if I recall correctly) and many foreigners just aren't used to the preparing for a specific match like for GSL.
On February 06 2011 09:10 bmml wrote: I can't help but think the 13 Korean invites kinda trivialise the hard work people are putting in week on week in the TLOpens (which only 15 people can do) but I guess if TL don't think its worth putting out an even playing field by hosting an open tournament on KR theres not much which can be done.
They have explained this a thousand times and maybe more. Due to technical and logistical issues it meant too much effort and too many difficulties to run TSL qualifier tournaments in the korean server, get over it.
On February 06 2011 09:10 bmml wrote: I can't help but think the 13 Korean invites kinda trivialise the hard work people are putting in week on week in the TLOpens (which only 15 people can do) but I guess if TL don't think its worth putting out an even playing field by hosting an open tournament on KR theres not much which can be done.
They have explained this a thousand times and maybe more. Due to technical and logistical issues it meant too much effort and too many difficulties to run TSL qualifier tournaments in the korean server, get over it.
Just because thats how they justify it doesn't mean I have to think its right.
Nice opening invites, 2 top Korean toss and everyones favourite Huk.
I'm thinking there'll be quite a few zerg on the roster, I'd be very surprised if they don't invite Idra, Ret, and Haypro given team/foreigner interest. Then I'm going to presume one of Fruit/NesTea and a Zerg from OGS, which given recent form would probably be Zenio.
On February 06 2011 08:33 godemperor wrote: I feel bad for TLO he is the only one on TL who has to work to be in TSL. But i does seems hes going to be there.
I'm kinda hoping (and expecting) that TL leaves one or two spare invites for when all qualifiers are over, and then run a huge poll on who to 'save' and bring into TSL3 in the last second. That way they can count on TLO having another good chance of qualifying, as all other big names that would compete with him in the poll will already be qualified.
I think TLO has basically already qualified, considering the points he already has. It's impossible for 8 players to get over 151 points when there's only 3 qualifiers left.
It's still POSSIBLE actually, but it would require a near perfect distribution of the remaining points to specific players to propel 8 guys about 151 points, and that's assuming TLO doesn't get any more points himself.
Like Mana, Strelok and Kiwikaki have to take the remaining second place finishes, Ciara needs to get a Ro16, Adelscott needs a Ro8, Goody and Fenix both need to take Ro4 finishes and then a little extra in another tournament, and then somone like Stephano needs to get 2 Ro4s himself, or something close.
On February 06 2011 09:10 bmml wrote: I can't help but think the 13 Korean invites kinda trivialise the hard work people are putting in week on week in the TLOpens (which only 15 people can do) but I guess if TL don't think its worth putting out an even playing field by hosting an open tournament on KR theres not much which can be done.
They have explained this a thousand times and maybe more. Due to technical and logistical issues it meant too much effort and too many difficulties to run TSL qualifier tournaments in the korean server, get over it.
Just because thats how they justify it doesn't mean I have to think its right.
Then don't think it's right, just get over it and don't complain since it won't change anything and doesn't make any sense at all. It becomes pure trolling.
On February 06 2011 08:33 godemperor wrote: I feel bad for TLO he is the only one on TL who has to work to be in TSL. But i does seems hes going to be there.
I'm kinda hoping (and expecting) that TL leaves one or two spare invites for when all qualifiers are over, and then run a huge poll on who to 'save' and bring into TSL3 in the last second. That way they can count on TLO having another good chance of qualifying, as all other big names that would compete with him in the poll will already be qualified.
I don't think you have to worry about TLO not making it in. He's almost sure to get one of the spots from rank points at this point.
I would expect 4 or 5 zerg invites just because of all of the foreign zergs in Korea (Ret, Haypro, Moonglade) in addition to the 1 or 2 Korean zergs that will be invited.
"Don't forget, next week we will be announcing our Zerg invites - let the speculation run wild! " So, lets speculate with 10 invites left, lets assume 5 zergs, i´d hope for Idra, Haypro, Ret, Fruitdealer and NesTea. That would so make my day
On February 06 2011 09:54 Baerinho wrote: "Don't forget, next week we will be announcing our Zerg invites - let the speculation run wild! " So, lets speculate with 10 invites left, lets assume 5 zergs, i´d hope for Idra, Haypro, Ret, Fruitdealer and NesTea. That would so make my day
This is actually a very valid assumption, and probable as well. I'm assuming they are only doing the invites for the Korean zergs, so this list is a no brainer.
On February 06 2011 09:54 Baerinho wrote: "Don't forget, next week we will be announcing our Zerg invites - let the speculation run wild! " So, lets speculate with 10 invites left, lets assume 5 zergs, i´d hope for Idra, Haypro, Ret, Fruitdealer and NesTea. That would so make my day
This is actually a very valid assumption, and probable as well. I'm assuming they are only doing the invites for the Korean zergs, so this list is a no brainer.
Just when i hit send on that post i thought of maybe moonglade? Not sure where he falls into this. But he might be a logical 6th
Huk? lol. MC and Genius should be exciting, great invites. I really hope haypro and ret aren't zerg invitees. They can and should earn it on their own.
On February 06 2011 09:59 cYaN wrote: Huk? lol. MC and Genius should be exciting, great invites. I really hope haypro and ret aren't zerg invitees. They can and should earn it on their own.
They're in Korea too, if they're supposed to qualify through "normal" means then why shouldn't all the Koreans?
Jos is a great guy and all. Little less can be said about my feelings towards Hayder. Still two solid players, but there are plenty of other zergs I would invite ahead of them. GJ we already had that argument and it led nowhere. Either way, I'm pretty sure they're going to invite more than 3 zergs from Asia to participate.
On February 06 2011 10:16 StarStruck wrote: Jos is a great guy and all. Little less can be said about my feelings towards Hayder. Still two solid players, but there are plenty of other zergs I would invite ahead of them. GJ we already had that argument and it led nowhere. Either way, I'm pretty sure they're going to invite more than 3 zergs from Asia to participate.
Liek someone said earlier, I'm pretty sure they'll both get invited. It is the TeamLiquid Starleague, after all.
So I looked around and havn't really been able to find this, but uh... The Korean players: How are they supposed to play? Do they just have to deal with the latency issues or...?
On February 06 2011 09:10 bmml wrote: I can't help but think the 13 Korean invites kinda trivialise the hard work people are putting in week on week in the TLOpens (which only 15 people can do) but I guess if TL don't think its worth putting out an even playing field by hosting an open tournament on KR theres not much which can be done.
Would you rather have entire Korean proteams compete in the TSL qualifiers (seeing as currently they're not doing much other than practice until GSL starts up again)?
I mean, if Korean pros decided to compete en masse, western pros wouldn't even have a chance. We have plenty of players capable of taking out top Koreans (WhiteRa, Sjow, Kiwikaki, etc.), but how many of them could take out 2-3 in a row to qualify?
I think Idra and Nestea are locks to get invited, with Ret and FruitDealer near locks (like >90%) and Moonglade and Haypro probably competing for the 5th spot (assuming it is an even 5 T, 5 Z split), I'd probably give the nod to Moonglade for more SEA representation. Leenock would be a good dark horse pick though.
For Terran, mvp, MKP, and Jinro should be locks, with Boxer and Nada near locks. Loner and TOP are pretty good picks as well, though I feel like they're almost certainly alternates to the above in case one or more doesn't accept for whatever reason.
Sick Toss lineup too. Kind of interesting to see Tester snubbed, but not necessarily surprising given performance.
This is such a badass tournament. I'd say they should've grabbed another Toss but it probably would've had to be a relative unknown since hongun and tester and such straight up haven't earned it in terms of quality of play. Maybe Puzzle, Ace, Alicia, and other lesser knowns are actually sick gosus who could've easily deserved it though? Who knows?
I'm so hyped up for this. I want Fruit Dealer, NesTea, and MVP invited so we can really see who out here in the west can throw down with GSL champs.
10 invites left... Assuming all the TL guys are locks for invites, my guess is something along the lines of:
Zerg: Fruitdealer Nestea Ret Haypro Idra
Terran: Jinro Nada MarineKing MVP Ensnare Boxer
Random: TLO
That adds up to 12 people though, so I'm going to assume that 2 of Boxer/Fruitdealer/Nestea/MKP/Nada/MVP declined. I guess people like Top or Zenio are also longshots if lots of people declined.
On February 06 2011 11:11 psychopat wrote: 10 invites left... Assuming all the TL guys are locks for invites, my guess is something along the lines of:
Zerg: Fruitdealer Nestea Ret Haypro Idra
Terran: Jinro Nada MarineKing MVP Ensnare
Random: TLO
That adds up to 11 people though, so I'm going to assume that 1 of Fruitdealer/Nestea/MKP/Nada/MVP declined.
TLO has to play the qualifiers...I think he is in the top 8 of the point qualifiers(hes number 1 lol).
Only three Protoss invites but I guess there aren't to many other deserving Protoss players out ther. Plus Theres a bunch of tsl qualifier winners that are protoss so it seems like they willl be wel repped
This is so awesome! Really looking foward to the other invites. On a side note, I can't believe all the people talking down on Ret and that an invite would be unjustified. I really can understand why Ret is thinking about coming back. His foreign fanbase is obviously smaller than he deserves. I'm extremely positive, that Ret would win a lot of foreign tournaments and destroy most of the foreign heroes.
I was wondering tho... Those 3 players are actually gonna play or are they 'invited' and they may decline if it will conflict with their GSL schedule or something?
On February 06 2011 11:59 Jakkerr wrote: I was wondering tho... Those 3 players are actually gonna play or are they 'invited' and they may decline if it will conflict with their GSL schedule or something?
It's not a wishlist, all players who are announced have already confirmed they will attend TSL 3. I'm sure Team Liquid staff knows to not make TSL 3 schedule conflict with GSL 3.
Have you guys suggesting Tester seen him play very well lately? Personally, I felt he was pretty lucky to get the ro8 in this past GSL, and without that pylon block trick which no longer works that well he may not have even done it. He had a cool moment here and there but still... eh. Not feelin it. Maybe I missed some non-GSL games where he played sick good, though.
Zerg Invites should probably be: Nestea, FD, Idra, and prolly OGSZenio. Though Haypro, Ret, and Moonglade probably will get invited which is cool but the 4 above are the best.
wow .. Genius, HuK and MC .. that is pretty incredible! These are some amazings names.. wouldn't be surprised if one of these took the whole competition :O
Great invites, really the best 3 that could've been chosen.
For Zerg I believe Idra and Nestea will 100% be there. Then its between Fruitdealer/Zenio/July/Ret and possibly Moonglade (if they want more representation) for the next 2-3 spots. Haypro shouldn't be invited, he's nowhere near the top players in Korea.
For Terrans it's pretty obvious if everyone would accept: MVP, Foxer, Jinro, Boxer and Nada. There's really no argument here ;] If there is a 6th place for a Terran, it should be either Rainbow or oGsTOP in my opinion.
If I had to chose: Idra Nestea Fruitdealer Ret / MVP Foxer Jinro Boxer Nada Rainbow
On February 06 2011 07:17 SmokeNAPancake wrote: Kinda surprised TesteR isn't there but I guess his performance after GSL1 wasn't up to par with the others. My guess for the rest
My zerg predictions IdrA, Nestea, FruitDealer- the best and most famous zergs. Altough Fruitdealer has been underpreforming, he is a must have for an epic tournament
Ret- a liquid zerg, and he was good enough to qualify for code A season one.
MoonGlade- Representing SEA, won his region's IEM qualifier and beat LoserA in doing so.
On February 06 2011 13:53 LSB wrote: My zerg predictions IdrA, Nestea, FruitDealer- the best and most famous zergs. Altough Fruitdealer has been underpreforming, he is a must have for an epic tournament
Ret- a liquid zerg, and he was good enough to qualify for code A season one.
MoonGlade- Representing SEA, won his region's IEM qualifier and beat LoserA in doing so.
On February 06 2011 08:57 Phayt wrote: You know the more I think about it the less I like Genius as a pick. I think outside of his Blizzcon win he hasn't been that stellar. There were several better choices available imo.
But then again it's probably more about "invite the blizzcon champion" then anything else I guess.
Anyone else feel the same?
The only one I can think of is tester, and he's not been so good as of late as well. You think HongUn, Choya, Anypro, or GuineaPig would be better invites? There's just not so many korean server truly good protosses. Genius is fine
Choya is a no no due to the scandal (rock paper scissor) and not so popular among foreigners Hong Un is cheesy so yeh not a good choice Anypro and Guinea haven't have much of a success to be invited
Seeing as how great players like MC,HuK,and Ki-Soo have been getting the most attention out of the Protoss fans it is nice chance for Genius to show that he is on par with those guys. As he is one of the most solid all around players. Also he is one of the three players that have been considered the best of the Protoss race (the others being Ki-Soo and MC) being the only Protoss player to make it to the Round of 8 in GSL Season 2.
On February 06 2011 07:04 Stamper wrote: Nestea, Fruitdealer and IdrA. Pleeeeease Edit: Ret or Haypro instead of IdrA would be fine as well, but Nestea and Fruitdealer please :X
There will be more then 3 zerg invites considering they are inviting 13 korean players I think it was? I wouldn't be surprised if they invited 4-5 zergs instead of terrans (I sure hope so as none have qualified through the TL opens yet T_T)
Im really wonder if HuK uses some new awesome strategy. cant wait ! Genius + MC + HuK + White-ra = heaven. I dont know who gets Zerg invitations but this Protoss setup will dominate everything !
Zergs: IdrA and Ret are basically guaranteed, Haypro is most likely in also.
Terran: Jinro obviously, but also Top and NaDa seeing as oGs has already shown they''re participating. Hopefully MVP and MKP will play because of the prizepool, but neither are lockins because their teams might not set time aside.
I have a feeling they arent going to get every top player we are hoping. id LOVEEE MVP, foxer, jinro, nada, boxer, ret, idra, FD, nestea, and either another T or Z. But I just dont see that happening...thats like taking the top 16 from GSL and putting them in TSL. (which as INCREDIBLY SUPER AWESOME AMAZING that would be, i just have a feeling it wont happen.
On February 06 2011 12:33 eviltomahawk wrote: Epic, epic invites. Shall we see an epic MC vs White-Ra game? Or a Tyler vs HuK game? The possibilities are endless!
PVP won't show their skills MC vs T MC vs jinro rematch White vs Z White vs Nestea Huk vs T Huk vs Mvp
On February 06 2011 18:24 Piledriver wrote: wtf, no IncA and tester? T_T. Genius' play is so unreliable, I would rather have tester or inca in his place.
dude, last time Inca was among the top players was like 6 months ago..
and tester, well, would like to see him there too so it would be 4 tosses but genius has been playing much better lately..
as for Z: does Haypro play TLOs or is there a "korean" seed for him?
On February 06 2011 19:05 Geo.Rion wrote: oh, God, MC, that means we probably gonna see Nestea and MVP too, and here i thought foreigners have good chance at taking it. Well not anymore
we gotta believe baby!
Also, why is slayers_boxer not that voted? I mean yeah, he isn't as awesome as MKP or MVP but still I love the guy
Predictions: Zerg: IdrA Nestea FruitDealer Ret HayprO
On February 06 2011 19:22 Art_of_Kill wrote: excat the 3 tosses i thought after seeing this news!
for Zerg: Nestea, Cool, Ret, Idra, Hayder for Terran: MVP, MKP, Jinro, Boxer, Nada
I expected MC,Tester and Huk but I also expected the first two to refuse to be honest. I am curious about the terrans where the big names are, Nada or Boxer in TSL would dreamy,but still I doubt they will play -.-
Also,what about the lag in this case,how are things going to work out?did you see what happened to jinro vs select games?
@coulthard why u think that? its a high pricepool and TL will make sure this event will not be at the same time as GSL (i mean the finals, rest of the games are online)
On February 06 2011 19:30 Art_of_Kill wrote: @coulthard why u think that? its a high pricepool and TL will make sure this event will not be at the same time as GSL (i mean the finals, rest of the games are online)
Most of the koreans pros know shit about the foreign scene especially the older players and the pricepool might look huge to us but for Nada and Boxer it might not.
On February 06 2011 19:38 cutler wrote: so Huk is invited an TLO has to qualify? Interessting...seems like some players are more special than others...
I think tlo would get invited for the tsl3 but he did it himself anyways, and why not,if you are training like 24/7 its not that hard to find a few hours every weekend to play the TLopen -)
On February 06 2011 19:38 cutler wrote: so Huk is invited an TLO has to qualify? Interessting...seems like some players are more special than others...
Huk's living in Korea, TLO is not. As there probably were no real doubts TLO could qualify, it's not a bad choice, especially since there will be one more slot for a korean player.
Would like to see: Zerg: Idra, Haypro, Ret, NesTea, Artosis Terran: Jinro, MVP, MKP, Nada, Boxer
On February 06 2011 09:59 cYaN wrote: Huk? lol. MC and Genius should be exciting, great invites. I really hope haypro and ret aren't zerg invitees. They can and should earn it on their own.
They're in Korea too, if they're supposed to qualify through "normal" means then why shouldn't all the Koreans?
ret said on sotg that he was going home in 4 days... so he's home now afaik. And haypro's going to that lan in finland, can't imagine he won't stop by home.
Each week we will unveil the invites from one race. This week we are announcing the Protoss invites. Next week we will announce the Zerg invites and the following week we will announce the Terran invites.
Hmm, no invite for the best random player in Korea? GuMiho
On February 06 2011 21:01 ChaosArcher wrote: OMG! awesome, awesome, awesome! Need to watch this, now But please invite TLO if he doesnt make it into with normal qualifier. he derserves it so bad!
Don't worry, it's almost impossible that TLO does not qualify. After a brief look at the standings I'm quite convinced it actually is impossible.
On February 06 2011 09:59 cYaN wrote: Huk? lol. MC and Genius should be exciting, great invites. I really hope haypro and ret aren't zerg invitees. They can and should earn it on their own.
They're in Korea too, if they're supposed to qualify through "normal" means then why shouldn't all the Koreans?
ret said on sotg that he was going home in 4 days... so he's home now afaik. And haypro's going to that lan in finland, can't imagine he won't stop by home.
Yeah, but they won't be able to participate in the majority of the TLOpens. At least not lag-free.
I don't think that should lead to automatic qualification tbh. Maybe they can do 1 or 2 lag free. Or maybe it's just too bad. I really like ret and am very interested to see how haypro is doing but this just isn't the way imo.
On February 06 2011 07:42 Aim 4 My Head wrote: Tyler, HuK, MC (!) and White-Ra all in the same tournament? Oh god... as a protoss player TSL3 is going to be so orgasmic
With you all the way here My Head, plus don't forget Naniwa, if they get some of the people that are being speculated then this could well be the defining tournament of SC2 so far in terms of getting the best there is to face off, cant wait!!!!
I just hope that some of the following (Sjow, DeMuslim, Kiwikaki, Catz, Select, TLO and Dimaga) can qualify from the remaining TSL qualifiers then literally you couldnt get better - on current form, and maybe to represent SEA one of the zerg invites will go to Moonglade or Loner then it really would be the best international tournament to date.
On February 06 2011 07:42 Aim 4 My Head wrote: Tyler, HuK, MC (!) and White-Ra all in the same tournament? Oh god... as a protoss player TSL3 is going to be so orgasmic
With you all the way here My Head, plus don't forget Naniwa, if they get some of the people that are being speculated then this could well be the defining tournament of SC2 so far in terms of getting the best there is to face off, cant wait!!!!
I just hope that some of the following (Sjow, DeMuslim, Kiwikaki, Catz, Select, TLO and Dimaga) can qualify from the remaining TSL qualifiers then literally you couldnt get better - on current form, and maybe to represent SEA one of the zerg invites will go to Moonglade or Loner then it really would be the best international tournament to date.
bring it on.......
Demuslim probably won't as he is inured and would have to win the last TLO to qualify. Sjow, Select might with some luck. Kiwikaki just probably needs to keep the results to qualify. TLO is basically in. I have no idea if CatZ even tries. And Dimaga is banned from this TSL.
This tournament will determine, much more so than the GSL, who the best player worldwide is at the moment!
I think the remaining invites are mostly all obvious choices too :
Nestea FruitDealer Idra Ret Haypro MVP Jinro MarineKing Loner (not sure but would be a good choice, rallying the chinese community) TOP (not sure but would be the next best terran imho. he won code A and raped MC in the Kaspersky's tournament finals during christmas break)
Now if only we could see players such as SjoW, Kiwikaki, TLO and Select make it through the qualifiers, this would be the most perfect tournament ever! Seriously, they should have reserved like 4 additional spots for foreign players who don't qualify for whatever reason. It would be totally retarded to see SjoW excluded from the tournament, considering some others that get in (won't name anyone, but it seems obvious to me).
All I can say is wow. We have seen some really high lvl invitationals before, but never at this lvl. MC and Genious? I cant wait to see what Z and T palyer will be invited from Korea!
Now for 5 zerg i would choose: haypro -> liquid ofc ret -> liquid ofc idra-> one of the best foreigners Nestea -> the best zerg Fruitdealer -> he sells fruit and he won GSL
the terrans: Jinro-> arguably the best foreigner and liquid's best player (by results) marineking -> he wins so much.. MVP -> the best player nada/slayersboxer (or even both) - for fan service and more viewers(they are very good also) top/ensnare/loner(chinese) - very good terrans
i would be happy with these choices but i'm sure they will be something like this!
On February 06 2011 19:38 cutler wrote: so Huk is invited an TLO has to qualify? Interessting...seems like some players are more special than others...
I think tlo would get invited for the tsl3 but he did it himself anyways, and why not,if you are training like 24/7 its not that hard to find a few hours every weekend to play the TLopen -)
No, its based on the fact TLO is playing in Germany once again. You can practice all you want, but unless you get 'good practice' your results may vary. :[
The only reason I can see Hayder getting an invite is because he's a TL player. That is the only reason. We have seen next to shit from him. Naz can argue this all he wants, but there is nothing public to warrant an invitation. The guy has next to 0 results.
I lol at all the guys that think TL shouldn't invite their own players...
they organize the biggest online tournament ever with so much interest because of their community and they wouldn't invite their own players? that's absurd..
TLO had to qualify because he can participate in the US and EU qualifiers.. the guys in korea would have lots of problems because of lag and timezones.. with would be very hard for them.. TLO will qualify because he can compete in those qualifiers and the others can't..
haypro, ret and Jinro should be invited to TSL imo
On February 06 2011 19:22 Art_of_Kill wrote: excat the 3 tosses i thought after seeing this news!
for Zerg: Nestea, Cool, Ret, Idra, Hayder for Terran: MVP, MKP, Jinro, Boxer, Nada
I expected MC,Tester and Huk but I also expected the first two to refuse to be honest. I am curious about the terrans where the big names are, Nada or Boxer in TSL would dreamy,but still I doubt they will play -.-
Also,what about the lag in this case,how are things going to work out?did you see what happened to jinro vs select games?
Ofcause Nada and Boxer would play if the get invite. Also why would you think MC/tester would refuse an invite? ofcause anyone from korea will 100% accept an invite even if they are in the GSL since this is a big online tournament cast of replays.
On February 06 2011 19:22 Art_of_Kill wrote: excat the 3 tosses i thought after seeing this news!
for Zerg: Nestea, Cool, Ret, Idra, Hayder for Terran: MVP, MKP, Jinro, Boxer, Nada
I expected MC,Tester and Huk but I also expected the first two to refuse to be honest. I am curious about the terrans where the big names are, Nada or Boxer in TSL would dreamy,but still I doubt they will play -.-
Also,what about the lag in this case,how are things going to work out?did you see what happened to jinro vs select games?
Ofcause Nada and Boxer would play if the get invite. Also why would you think MC/tester would refuse an invite? ofcause anyone from korea will 100% accept an invite even if they are in the GSL since this is a big online tournament cast of replays.
Exactly, didn't players still competed in the Gainward Tournament even though the GSL was going on? Anyways the players I expect to get invites:
Zergs 1. ret - Team Liquid 2. Haypro - Team Liquid 3. Nestea - Best Zerg 4. Fruitdealer - Season 1 Winner 5. Idra - Best foreign zerg 6. Zenio - Top 5 zerg
Terran 1. Jinro - Team Liquid 2. MVP - Best player 3. Marineking - 2 GSL final appearances 4. Nada - Legend/2 Top 8 GSL appearances
HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
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On February 06 2011 07:42 Aim 4 My Head wrote: Tyler, HuK, MC (!) and White-Ra all in the same tournament? Oh god... as a protoss player TSL3 is going to be so orgasmic
With you all the way here My Head, plus don't forget Naniwa, if they get some of the people that are being speculated then this could well be the defining tournament of SC2 so far in terms of getting the best there is to face off, cant wait!!!!
I just hope that some of the following (Sjow, DeMuslim, Kiwikaki, Catz, Select, TLO and Dimaga) can qualify from the remaining TSL qualifiers then literally you couldnt get better - on current form, and maybe to represent SEA one of the zerg invites will go to Moonglade or Loner then it really would be the best international tournament to date.
bring it on.......
Demuslim probably won't as he is inured and would have to win the last TLO to qualify. Sjow, Select might with some luck. Kiwikaki just probably needs to keep the results to qualify. TLO is basically in. I have no idea if CatZ even tries. And Dimaga is banned from this TSL.
I had no idea about Dimaga! opps! im just being optimistic about demuslim though i sure youre right the odds are against him
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
I dont know what games of his you're watching but for me he's right up there with the best, who would you have instead?
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Hmm maybe a less obvious suggestion, isn't TheSTC coming back from the army around that time? I think it'd be interesting to see him again, I've always enjoyed his playstyle.
i can't believe you got these 3 guys for the tsl, waiting for nestea fd idra and zenio for zerg and mvp mkp jinro nada boxer for terran and this is gonna be the single most awesome tourney in sc2 thus far
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Well, to be fair, it's highly unlikely he's the only person using them.
On February 06 2011 19:38 cutler wrote: so Huk is invited an TLO has to qualify? Interessting...seems like some players are more special than others...
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
On February 07 2011 04:36 Forgottenfrog wrote: Glad to see NsP.Genius, Huk and MC in the tournament. Wonder why sSks wasn't invited? Great protoss lineup nevertheless.
Boxer will be invited, I can just feel it. Boxer has such innovative plays which makes it exciting to watch. Hail the emperor!
Why do people still talk about Tester like he's relevant compared to the other top protoss players? This is kinda an honest question because am I missing some big achievement hes had recently? I thought he was just hyped up like no other in the beginning and hasn't really lived up to expectations.
On February 07 2011 04:36 Forgottenfrog wrote: Glad to see NsP.Genius, Huk and MC in the tournament. Wonder why sSks wasn't invited? Great protoss lineup nevertheless.
Boxer will be invited, I can just feel it. Boxer has such innovative plays which makes it exciting to watch. Hail the emperor!
Why do people still talk about Tester like he's relevant compared to the other top protoss players? This is kinda an honest question because am I missing some big achievement hes had recently? I thought he was just hyped up like no other in the beginning and hasn't really lived up to expectations.
Well, he made it farther than either Genius or MC in the January GSL (Ro8, while the others made Ro16). I still don't believe he matches either of them in skill or total achievements, but clearly he's capable of getting good results.
I think tester might have been a better choice over genius, at least for me. Tester late game toss is really fun to watch. Other then that it is still a sick lineup of protoss. TSL3 shaping up to be real nice.
I'm a huge Genius fan and love watching Huk. oGsMC is just baller. I'm happy for the lineup. Go protoss users. Anyone predicting Idra for the zerg?...lol
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
I think it is an excellent selection of players. Huk is a player that everyone knows about. He has shown improved play after being in Korea for so long. This looks like Huks big chance to throw down with the big names again and to prove himself.
I'm ecstatic that they got MC, his play is so entertaining to watch. He will be one of the strongest players of the entire tournament.
Genius is a strong player with some major tournament wins behind him, but his play in the GSL was a bit lacking. I'm hoping he can impress me with he part in this tournament.
Many people are doubting that the other big Korean teams will allow their players to participate in the TSL but imo why wouldnt the want the foreign exposure? Many teams are getting a "token Foreigner" on their team , why wouldnt they want to participate in the biggest tournament outside Korea (single tourny, not including MLG) Winning this tournament would be a very prestigious reward for the team involved
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
Yeah HuK! Why you so bad? But really. No. Just No. Just NOOOO. Tester has successfully done jack in GSL 2-5 he has very little chance at succeeding here. Huk actually takes up 3 of the spots on a global top 100. 2 of those spots are from korea. And he's in code A. Good enough for me.
Because he earned Code A right?(don't get me wrong I'm a fan...) That aside I think HuK's a perfectly good choice for TSL 3, Tester is the only toss not on here that I was expecting to be invited. That being said I'm super excited about TSL 3!
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
Yeah HuK! Why you so bad? But really. No. Just No. Just NOOOO. Tester has successfully done jack in GSL 2-5 he has very little chance at succeeding here. Huk actually takes up 3 of the spots on a global top 100. 2 of those spots are from korea. And he's in code A. Good enough for me.
The HuK fanboyism on this site is really absurd. I get that people like to root for the home team and foreigners and everything, but HuK has been lackluster in every big tournament outside of MLG Raleigh, the weakest of the MLG (itself a 2nd tier event) tournies last year. His ladder score doesn't really make up for that.
Tester made 2 GSL Ro8's, HuK hasn't qualified once.
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
Rofl :D
Great lineup, should be fun to watch. Huk has earned every bit of it. Topping the European ladder in less than 4 days? Oh, okay.
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
sarcasm, from huk? Pshhhhh.
Huk, if you don't win this tournament, I will never play sc2 again.
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
Yeah HuK! Why you so bad? But really. No. Just No. Just NOOOO. Tester has successfully done jack in GSL 2-5 he has very little chance at succeeding here. Huk actually takes up 3 of the spots on a global top 100. 2 of those spots are from korea. And he's in code A. Good enough for me.
The HuK fanboyism on this site is really absurd. I get that people like to root for the home team and foreigners and everything, but HuK has been lackluster in every big tournament outside of MLG Raleigh, the weakest of the MLG (itself a 2nd tier event) tournies last year. His ladder score doesn't really make up for that.
Tester made 2 GSL Ro8's, HuK hasn't qualified once.
Agreed. HuK is an amazing player, but for one to say that tester has little chance of succeeding in the GSL, and saying that he has done jack in GSL 2-5 even though he got to the RO8 in the last GSL, losing to the eventual victor is kind of silly.
We all know HuK is a sick sick player, but too many are on the HuK bandwagon in my opinion, to automatically and blindly assume that HuK has more of a chance succeeding in a place where he hasn't shown himself really in tournaments (Korea), than a person who has proved time and time again that he is among the top tier of players in the world by both competing and getting very high up in korean tournaments is absurd
erm what is this elgren guy on about? please tell us about some games where huk has played 'terribly' imo huk is probs one of the bbest protoss players in the world right now, living in the ogs house in korea, practicing like crazy. its very evident in the games he streams and all his ladder rankings.
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
Yeah HuK! Why you so bad? But really. No. Just No. Just NOOOO. Tester has successfully done jack in GSL 2-5 he has very little chance at succeeding here. Huk actually takes up 3 of the spots on a global top 100. 2 of those spots are from korea. And he's in code A. Good enough for me.
The HuK fanboyism on this site is really absurd. I get that people like to root for the home team and foreigners and everything, but HuK has been lackluster in every big tournament outside of MLG Raleigh, the weakest of the MLG (itself a 2nd tier event) tournies last year. His ladder score doesn't really make up for that.
Tester made 2 GSL Ro8's, HuK hasn't qualified once.
You could look it like this: HuK has failed to quailfy for GSL twice, so has Tester. Hehe.
huk deserves to be tsl invitee, no question. I think they could have opened up another spot for tester tho imo. and maybe squirtle. not to mention whitera as well
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
this guy knows what hes talking about. quite obvious i will never b on the same lvl as these other forgeignors
Clearly xd... so many noobs try and flame you lol. to bad you're going to win code a
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
How can you make a post on what others have said, unless you have been fallowing his recent tournys then i am sorry you are wrong. Huk holds world leading ladder, he went farther than sjow diamaga white ra and maybe tarson in assembly only losing because pvp is retarded. As extra Have you watched his stream he plays vs mvp and all the other players that make eu players look like pawns and guess what? he beats them on a regular basis.. So maybe you should watch a little bit more before you post on TL saying he has bad decision making when that is probolly his best aspect in his play... Not to mention his control. he is easily top 5 protoss in the world beating out any of these EU protoss... so yea.... I mean when was the last time you watched him play.. he plays ALOT..... So yea before you cry about why a great player got seeded in TSL i would do some research BRO.
On February 15 2011 02:44 dkim wrote: huk deserves to be tsl invitee, no question. I think they could have opened up another spot for tester tho imo. and maybe squirtle. not to mention whitera as well
Whitera already qualified by winning a TL Open last week. Plus because he was eligible to play in the qualifiers, he was not eligible to be invited. Invites are only for those currently residing in Korea.
On February 07 2011 01:28 Elgren wrote: HuK??? What's he doing in TSL? I feel like he's only invited because he happens to be on Liquid.
This player should have to take his chances to qualify with the other players, however I doubt he would be able to considering the quality of players in those qualifiers.
I am PUMPED to see some games between the koreans and the euro/americans tho. This will be so cool!
huk having 2 accounts in the korean ladder ranked 5th and 6th respectively is quite a good achievement
Considering he didnt have a chance to qualify im not going to complain and sure TL is right to invite players on their team to give them exposure.
However it is my personal opinion based on what i've seen in HuKs games that he has a far far way to go before I could consider him to even be a able to compete with the best european and american based players.
That's why I reacted when I saw he was invited. As I dont think he would have a good chance to qualify if he was forced to go through qualifiers.
Which games have you seen? If you haven't been watching his stream very recently, you probably should, or you can't speak in an informed way about Huk. He's extremely good.
Well people have been saying that here on team liquid for a long time even tho HuK's games has show a enormous lack of planning and fundamentals. His mechanics seems to be very strong tho and thats why he was able to bash through alot of players in the beginning with a style that was obviously just going to be good at killing people who didnt know what they were doing exactly, or had not spent enough time and practice to actually figure out smart ways to play yet...
Now that you actually have to play well to get anywhere and people dont die from colossus just attacking on random timings HuK cant get ANYWHERE!? All ive seen is very poor planning, very poor decision making and fundamental errors from HuK.
In my opinion he is uncompareable to players like DIMAGA, SjoW, White-Ra, Tarson etc... those guys are many levels above HuK in my eyes.
21 posts and bronze league? Sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about. "many levels above" There is no single level above. Maybe MVP and Nestea...
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