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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 24 2010 10:55 GMT
#41
On February 24 2010 17:37 Fatmatt2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 13:54 Insane wrote:
On February 24 2010 04:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On February 23 2010 17:21 OhThatDang wrote:
i dont think jf was unfortunate but rather fortunate enough to get to the semifinals as he did. This is totally not the same JF that won the last TSL =p so the games were more one sided as i viewed them. I knew nony would take the series anyways hehehe =D


I was honestly very disappointed that TL seeded so many players into the money. Look at Draco, he was guaranteed Ro16+250$ and didn't even practice for his matches then got rolled 3-0 by SEn in horrendous games.

Draco got 2nd in the last TSL, to not have seeded to some extent would've been silly

Look at how the other two seeded players did:

JF - Top 4 (possible 3rd), defeated GosI[Terran] and White-Ra on the way (both very good players, and White-Ra is like the perennial top non-Korean Protoss)
Brat_OK - Knocked out by Mondragon, who either wins TSL or gets 2nd place.

Brat_OK got a bit unlucky on who he played (like Xiaozi got unlucky running into IdrA right away), but one can hardly claim that JF's run was bad or that he didn't show that he still can compete with the best.

Additionally, the other player who had some level of seeding from the last TSL is NonY, who is now top 2 and has a chance to win the whole TSL.



But at the same time Draco should hardly have been seeded in a position where he is making money because he did well in a tournament years ago.


Whats your IQ ? ( no offense )
hatred outlives the hateful
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 24 2010 16:46 GMT
#42
Last time he was 1 game from being the first... he just retired for good this time, too bad that during TSL not some time after. Shit happens.
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Mumblee
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada256 Posts
February 24 2010 19:16 GMT
#43
On February 24 2010 17:13 Foucault wrote:
The PvT vs Idra was mad cheesy though


You say this like it was a bad thing.

Go Nony!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 24 2010 20:56 GMT
#44
awesome, thanks a lot, good luck in the finals, i'm hoping for some good games
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
radiumz0rz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States253 Posts
February 24 2010 23:24 GMT
#45
interesting read.
Berkeley '10
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
February 26 2010 00:26 GMT
#46
u da best nony. good luck in the finals!
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
February 26 2010 01:40 GMT
#47
On February 24 2010 19:45 7mk wrote:
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On February 24 2010 19:33 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On February 23 2010 12:58 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
How come you can't pronounce your own ID?


He might think Noony sounds better


Well what does nony even mean?
Oh look what I found
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nony
Nony is like quarter polish or something right?
so it seems that Nony is the 9th day of a month before full moon.... hmm...

He said a while back in an interview it was a childhood nick-name iirc.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
etch
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada176 Posts
February 26 2010 22:31 GMT
#48
i hope im not too late to this party. i noticed you went 2 gate before robo on the destination game which got me wondering. what decides whether you add the second gate or the robo first? as i understand it, 1 gate robo is more common but i suppose 2 gate would be a bit safer vs early aggression. That being said, i thought destination wasnt very conducive to rushes and the difference in the timings also doesnt seem to be that big. are there other factors to consider?

More importantly though, good luck in the finals!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 26 2010 23:12 GMT
#49
On February 27 2010 07:31 etch wrote:
i hope im not too late to this party. i noticed you went 2 gate before robo on the destination game which got me wondering. what decides whether you add the second gate or the robo first? as i understand it, 1 gate robo is more common but i suppose 2 gate would be a bit safer vs early aggression. That being said, i thought destination wasnt very conducive to rushes and the difference in the timings also doesnt seem to be that big. are there other factors to consider?

More importantly though, good luck in the finals!

destination was one of my courage maps and this 2gate build is one that i practiced a lot with great success. like i said in the OP, it counters 1gate expansion builds. it's like this: when i have 1 zealot and 4 goons outside his bridges, i try to cross. if he has 3 goons, he's going DT and i attack, if he has 4 goons, he's on 1gate and probably expanding, i wait to have 6 goons and attack (he'll only have 5), if he has 5 goons he's on 2gate or more, i retreat behind my bridges or up my ramp.

the micro when crossing the bridges is a bit of a unique technique that i dont think people knew before desti and people havent used after desti. i happened to practice it a lot and know how it works so that having a 1 goon advantage is enough for me to bust someone even while im crossing.

doing 2gate robo with the order of gateway robo gateway is not a rush build. it's kinda a nothing build. it has tricky uses and most people dont bother with it. going 2gate robo with gate gate robo is really just a safe goon rush. its goal is usually to delay the opponent's expansion. but if they go all in trying to defend their expansion, it can win the game.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
etch
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada176 Posts
February 27 2010 04:57 GMT
#50
i love learning little nuances about the game but theres still so much i dont know :/ thanks a lot!
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