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TSL spoilers on torrents and on youtube

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Noah
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway164 Posts
February 02 2010 06:03 GMT
#1
I just decided to try to download the Idra vs XiaOzI torrent instead of watching it on youtube, and as soon as I get the torrent added to uTorrent I immediately know how many games that are being played in the series. When set 4 and 5 is listed at 10kb I know there won't be any games in them and now the series is sadly spoiled.

I won't download anymore of the TSL torrents because of this since I can control this spoiler part on the Nevake youtube channel pretty easily, but theres still a spoiler there as well. If the series only have 4 games there are only 4 games up on youtube.

Nukethestars had a smart solution for this as he uploaded some blank games as anti-spoilers so it wouldn't be possible to tell how many sets there was in a series, and I really hope this can be implemented on the Nevake channel as well. With torrents this isn't quite as easy as I'm guessing not everyone will want to download unneccesary data to keep the spoilers away. My best suggestion here would be to add a random pro game of starcraft to the unused sets so that the people atleast will get some Starcraft for their bandwidth.

Other than that I want to thank you for making TSL happening, it's been great watching it so far and I will continue watching every game in this awesome tournament. I also feel I should thank Nukethestars for his brilliant casting of OSL since I haven't done that anywhere yet.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
February 02 2010 06:06 GMT
#2
just head over to the small vod thread for your anti-spoiling needs
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875
blabberrrrr
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
February 02 2010 06:28 GMT
#3
Click on the .torrent link -> cover your eyes -> press enter after a few seconds when it shows the torrent content -> now you may look again
Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
February 02 2010 06:43 GMT
#4
Just hide the size tab on the torrent before you download the file.
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mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
February 02 2010 06:52 GMT
#5
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=76887
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8082 Posts
February 02 2010 06:55 GMT
#6
I'm pretty sure you can set your torrent program to hide file sizes...
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 02 2010 06:58 GMT
#7
teamliquid can use boxer's games as spoiler videos.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 07:07:14
February 02 2010 07:00 GMT
#8
A better solution, that I've seen used a couple times, is to have a folder structure like this :

// = folder
- = video

// Set 1
||-Game 1
||//Set 2
||||-Game 2
||||// Set 3
||||||-Game 3
||||||// Set 4
||||||||(empty folder)
|||||||||//Set 5
||||||||||(empty folder)


This would be an example of a 3-0 series.
It's a simple way to ensure that you do not see the next game unless you open the next folder.

Edit: Doh, indents not working properly.

I'll explain in words then :

All you see when you download the torrent is the folder called Set 1.
Inside the folder Set 1 is the Set 1 game and the folder called Set 2.
Inside the folder Set 2 is the Set 2 game and the folder called Set 3.
Then it goes on and on.

This way you won't need to upload dummy games and saves everyone bandwith and time.
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Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
February 02 2010 07:37 GMT
#9
On February 02 2010 15:28 Jonteman wrote:
Click on the .torrent link -> cover your eyes -> press enter after a few seconds when it shows the torrent content -> now you may look again

well spoiler still when he goes to find the files and see only three videos
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
February 02 2010 07:48 GMT
#10
On February 02 2010 15:28 Jonteman wrote:
Click on the .torrent link -> cover your eyes -> press enter after a few seconds when it shows the torrent content -> now you may look again


The simple solutions often work the best. This is what I do pretty much ^^
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Noah
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway164 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 08:34:56
February 02 2010 08:24 GMT
#11
ruXxars solution was pretty clever and I hope TL.net implements something like this in the torrents. Nukes solution to spoilers works perfectly on youtube, and I really hope that his will be considered.

Edit: I see this got moved to the TSL forum, I hope these anti-spoilers will get implemented on any vod from TL.net, and not just TSL Vods. It shouldn't be much more of an effort for you great people who are providing us with Vods, and we'll get rid of spoilers in both the torrents and on the youtube channel.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
February 02 2010 09:28 GMT
#12
For youtube I think small vods thread / spoiler free VODs on live report threads are entirely viable.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 10:01:53
February 02 2010 09:56 GMT
#13
On February 02 2010 15:52 mijellin wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=76887

Check out this guide.

Also, ever seen the SVT?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875

There is only so much we can do to prevent spoilers. Uploading 10 VODs a day to Youtube is enough work as it is I am certainly not going to upload fake games.

EDIT: Let me make this more clear: Uploading fake games on Youtube would be a terrible idea anyway. It would totally screw with people who search for VODs on Youtube. If I started cluttering the channel with fakes the whole value of the channel as a VOD archive would be gone. Not going to happen.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 02 2010 10:27 GMT
#14
Noah, like is pointed out in mijellin's link you can set utorrent (which you already said you use! and which coincidentally is also the best torrent client for Windows anyway, not sure about other OS) to download the data of a started torrent to a specified folder without showing the window that has folder sizes...

As for all VODs on the tracker that are not TL made content (i.e. all the OSL/MSL/PL/WL/... VODs), we simply cannot change the files inside a torrent, because we don't create the torrents ourselves in the first place. Those are YaoYuan torrents, we just (automatically, at least I hope it works automatically atm, for zatic's sake ) add our tracker url to the *.torrent and upload it here.

Zatic already covered Youtube, so there's nothing left to say about it.
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
February 02 2010 15:40 GMT
#15
What I do on youtube is scroll up to the next vod at a slow pace so I can click it without seeing if there is another video above it.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
February 02 2010 17:48 GMT
#16
I use Vuze, even though it annoys me so much more than when it was Azureus, whatever, but I didn't get spoiled at all, and didn't have to do anything special.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 02 2010 19:54 GMT
#17
Yeah just turn off the size tab in your torrent client, every decent client has this option. Or just set it to auto-add the torrent instead of asking you. ruXxar's solution is no better since again as soon as you see games 4 and 5 are 10kb you know it's spoiled. Or even the overall torrent size could be a spoiler. I don't think its worth wasting bandwidth by adding fake games.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
February 02 2010 21:55 GMT
#18
On February 03 2010 04:54 R1CH wrote:
Yeah just turn off the size tab in
your torrent client, every decent
client has this option. Or just
set it to auto-add the torrent
instead of asking you. ruXxar's
solution is no better since again
as soon as you see games 4
and 5 are 10kb you know it's
spoiled. Or even the overall
torrent size could be a spoiler.
I don't think its worth wasting
bandwidth by adding fake games.

QFT (emphasis mine)
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 22:19:52
February 02 2010 22:16 GMT
#19
And here's a third, visual iteration of what to do!

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Then..

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Done!
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-02 22:20:29
February 02 2010 22:20 GMT
#20
And here it is slowly scrolling upwards:

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