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TSL Ro48 Qualifiers R1 Begin January 9th, 2010
TSL Qualifier Groups
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Toolshed
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 Good luck everyone =)Pretty balanced groups I guess. Good work. Predictions: + Show Spoiler + A) (asuming Idra wins vs Nony) HoRRoR B) Kolll C) Mana D) Strelok E) White-Ra F) Ret G) Nyoken H) Szyki I) XiaOzl J) Mondragon K) Sen L) Sawyer | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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koziol
Poland768 Posts
anyway, ITS ON and go Dreiv and Koget! btw. when is this going to happen? I mean those games being played edit- ok I see January the 9th | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I would of loved to see him play some PvT.Edit: Aww and mondi getting no ZvP !! | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
morrow u got only zergs, happy?  | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
For me group A looks ez both Nony and Idra gonna go trough. | ||
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Gonozal
Germany320 Posts
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WhuazGoodJaggah
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Steveh
United States112 Posts
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koziol
Poland768 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:23 Gonozal wrote: when will this be played? Qualifiers 1-2 - January 9 Qualifiers 3 - January 16 found that in 5 secs exactly -_- | ||
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China10928 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Dknight
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Cyrox
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theqat
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Torlak
Macedonia74 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Group A: One of the '' weaker '' groups. As i expect Nony to join this group after losing to Idra. The rest of the players arent top notch and I guess unless Idra loses it will be a close fight between Horror and Nony but anything can happen. Group B: I like kollls chances in this group. No good toss in sight and only zvzs and maybe a zvt in the finals. Morrow or kolll. I doubt Octzerg or Naugrim can make it. Im not overly informed but I guess Naugrims strength is his ZvP and not his ZvZ Group C: Interesting group I dont have a fav. there basicaly anyone can advance here Group D: Interesting group but its a 50/50 between TT1 and Strelok. My guess.. Group E: Tha groups pretty neat. Obviously white ra is the fav. but i expect Killer to do very good, too. I watched some of his replays hes really good imo. Closer & Eri have a shot at it too but kinda sad to see those facing off so early Group F: Obviously ret should make it. I guess a nice pvz final vs Cloud. Could turn out as one of the more lovely series! Group G: This group is totally stacked. Nyk, dreiven, well caspers good too and fenix is solid as well. Basicaly I give any of those a equally good chance at advancing except casper Group H: THat has to be one of the weaker groups at the first glance. I think Szisky or Tarson is the one coming out successful here.. I slightly favour Tarson cause his TvZ is really awesome Group I: Timothy or Arew will make it imo.. Group J: Weird group.. I have no clue who will face Mondi but whoever it is I think mondi might have the most troubles with Incontrol.. But mondis a favourite for sure.. No clue what shaman can do. Technics shouldnt be a big threat.. Group K: Sen without a doubt.. I think ghosta will reach the final but vs Sen he should not have a big chance.. Group L: that last group is insane! Sawyer is by far the worst player in this group but Infernal always lacks in important games. Hayder, GosiTerran and Infernal in one group are at least 2 players maybe even 3 i would feel actually belong to the final 16 in terms of what they are capable of I think Hayder is the best out of those 3 but it is basically 33 % for each of them.. Pretty stacked group All in all I like these groups GL 2 everyone see us in 2010 rocking the shit =D | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
too bad lz didn't make it | ||
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Summer[AfO]!
Sweden11 Posts
Rooting for IdrA and Morrow. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
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Alpine
United States86 Posts
Awesome matches all around, cant wait for it all to get going, congrats to all the guys who worked so hard to get this far! | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
complete bracket for the whole TSL in Excel edit: assuming no reseeding | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:42 Alpine wrote: It appears that Infernal won't advance, as there is already a TvZ match icon in Q2 for Group L... Awesome matches all around, cant wait for it all to get going, congrats to all the guys who worked so hard to get this far! Haypro plays both T and Z. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
I hope we all have lots of fun! | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:45 LRM)TechnicS wrote: I am so happy I am into this! I hope we all have lots of fun! Dude, you're posts are so optimistic, I'm rooting for you... (but not necessarily predicting you, sorry) Team Counts: ESC. = 8 (!!!) iG. = 4 ToT) = 4 ex-v1o) = 4 LRM) = 4 [Pan] = 4 mTw. = 3 EG. = 2 RoX.KIS = 7 - 5 = 2 Predictions: Group A:   NonYGroup B:   ESC.KolllGroup C:  [Pan]CaStrOGroup D:  Avi-Love - Fruitcake group...Group E:  ESC.White-RaGroup F:  ESC.RetGroup G:   iG.Casper - Bold Upset Pick #1!Group H:  Sziky[VT] or  iG.Tarson- Why did my two favorite foreigner underdogs get in the same group? Group I: iG.kogeTGroup J:  Shaman - Bold upset pick #2!Group K:  Duskbin.SEnGrouo L:  ToT)HayprO... join the top 16 along with...  IefNaijRetired_DracoRoX.BRAT_OKIdrA[Media](Just for you p4NDemik.,.) *** Once in the Round of 16, how will the match-ups be assigned? Will the qualifiers then be re-seeded according to the ladder results, or will it be random? | ||
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United States2898 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:47 G5 wrote: what time is this on the 9th? I believe you will be contacted separately about logistical issues like that. | ||
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
So many zergs this time and I cannot wait for the nony vs idra bo5. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
OP, I jizzed. | ||
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n3gative
Canada369 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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AdreN
United States9 Posts
too bad lzgamer didn't make it, i was rooting for him too | ||
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
Group A: HoRRoR vs NonY Group B: Kolll vs MorroW Group C: CaStrO vs MaNa Group D: TT1 vs Strelok Group E: Eriador vs White-rA (This would be sickkkkkkkkk, make it happen eri )Group F: ret vs ClouD (Please don't end up ZvZ) Group G: Fenix vs Dreiven (I'd like Nyoken to win but I don't see it happening) Group H: Tarson vs Sziky Group I: kogeT vs XiaOzI Group J: Mondragon vs Shaman Group K: Marwin vs Sen Group L: Hayder v Terran Not even going to try predicting it after that, since most of my ideal finals probably won't even come true. Should be some amazing matchups though! | ||
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Get.Midikem
Sweden312 Posts
Horror Naugrim Mana Strelok White-Ra Ret Dreiven Tarson Xiaozi Mondragon Sen HayPro Note: Am pretty sad Shauni dident make it! | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
Group F looks pretty crazy. Hope Cloud's windows doesn't crash him out of the TSL | ||
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mtmf
Brazil420 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:11 Purind wrote: Damn, looks like Mamon didn't play enough games Group F looks pretty crazy. Hope Cloud's windows doesn't crash him out of the TSL Talking about that, RICH was looking for someone with the Windows 7 crashing problem to develop a fix. Maybe Cloud should go for it before the qualifiers. | ||
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Re-Play-
Dominican Republic825 Posts
On December 16 2009 07:40 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Lets take a look at the groups and some predictions right of the bat: Group A: One of the '' weaker '' groups. As i expect Nony to join this group after losing to Idra. The rest of the players arent top notch and I guess unless Idra loses it will be a close fight between Horror and Nony but anything can happen. Group B: I like kollls chances in this group. No good toss in sight and only zvzs and maybe a zvt in the finals. Morrow or kolll. I doubt Octzerg or Naugrim can make it. Im not overly informed but I guess Naugrims strength is his ZvP and not his ZvZ Group C: Interesting group I dont have a fav. there basicaly anyone can advance here Group D: Interesting group but its a 50/50 between TT1 and Strelok. My guess.. Group E: Tha groups pretty neat. Obviously white ra is the fav. but i expect Killer to do very good, too. I watched some of his replays hes really good imo. Closer & Eri have a shot at it too but kinda sad to see those facing off so early Group F: Obviously ret should make it. I guess a nice pvz final vs Cloud. Could turn out as one of the more lovely series! Group G: This group is totally stacked. Nyk, dreiven, well caspers good too and fenix is solid as well. Basicaly I give any of those a equally good chance at advancing except casper Group H: THat has to be one of the weaker groups at the first glance. I think Szisky or Tarson is the one coming out successful here.. I slightly favour Tarson cause his TvZ is really awesome Group I: Timothy or Arew will make it imo.. Group J: Weird group.. I have no clue who will face Mondi but whoever it is I think mondi might have the most troubles with Incontrol.. But mondis a favourite for sure.. No clue what shaman can do. Technics shouldnt be a big threat.. Group K: Sen without a doubt.. I think ghosta will reach the final but vs Sen he should not have a big chance.. Group L: that last group is insane! Sawyer is by far the worst player in this group but Infernal always lacks in important games. Hayder, GosiTerran and Infernal in one group are at least 2 players maybe even 3 i would feel actually belong to the final 16 in terms of what they are capable of I think Hayder is the best out of those 3 but it is basically 33 % for each of them.. Pretty stacked group All in all I like these groups GL 2 everyone see us in 2010 rocking the shit =D Good Analysis yo | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
What also sucks - how am I supposed to enjoy my christmas presents when I'll just be waiting for the TSL to start?! | ||
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United States86 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
P 13 T 14 Z 21 DOMINATORS AND/OR DODGERS (top 10 by winning %age) 31 tsl-eg.Nyoken 87 - 17 T 104 83.65% 40 TSL.MikOeL 80 - 17 T 97 82.47% 4 TSL-Strelok 109 - 26 T 135 80.74% 36 TSL.iNfeRnaL 82 - 20 P 102 80.39% 33 TSL-Arew 92 - 27 P 119 77.31% 35 tsl-marw 90 - 28 T 118 76.27% 10 TSL)Mondragon( 114 - 36 Z 150 76.00% 7 TSL-Fenix 108 - 35 T 143 75.52% 29 TSLiquid.Drone 114 - 38 Z 152 75.00% 42 TSL-Dreiven 97 - 33 P 130 74.62% NEWBIES AND/OR NON-DODGERS (bottom 10 by winning %age) 15 TSL-pampam 167 - 108 T 275 60.73% 24 TSL-KenZy 138 - 90 Z 228 60.53% 34 TSL-iNcontroL 187 - 122 Z 309 60.52% 47 TSL-NeMu 113 - 75 Z 188 60.11% 5 TSL.White-Ra 253 - 169 P 422 59.95% 12 tsl-terran 179 - 125 T 304 58.88% 23 TSL-OctZerg 321 - 230 Z 551 58.26% 41 TSL-Gamtja[X] 177 - 132 P 309 57.28% 22 TSL-Kr 239 - 185 P 424 56.37% 37 TSL-Sawyer. 183 - 144 T 327 55.96% GRINDERS (top 10 by games played) 23 TSL-OctZerg 321 - 230 Z 551 58.26% 22 TSL-Kr 239 - 185 P 424 56.37% 5 TSL.White-Ra 253 - 169 P 422 59.95% 27 TSL-CaStrO 231 - 125 Z 356 64.89% 37 TSL-Sawyer. 183 - 144 T 327 55.96% 2 TSL-mOrrow 206 - 108 T 314 65.61% 16 TSL-XiaOzI 202 - 111 Z 313 64.54% 34 TSL-iNcontroL 187 - 122 Z 309 60.52% 41 TSL-Gamtja[X] 177 - 132 P 309 57.28% 12 tsl-terran 179 - 125 T 304 58.88% COASTERS (bottom 10 by games played) 47 TSL-Naugrim 95 - 38 Z 133 71.43% 42 TSL-Dreiven 97 - 33 P 130 74.62% 39 TSL-TechnicS 95 - 35 Z 130 73.08% 38 TSL.GhosTa 94 - 35 T 129 72.87% 46 TSL-Shad[Pan] 91 - 37 Z 128 71.09% 33 TSL-Arew 92 - 27 P 119 77.31% 35 tsl-marw 90 - 28 T 118 76.27% 31 tsl-eg.nyoken 87 - 17 T 104 83.65% 36 TSL.iNfeRnaL 82 - 20 P 102 80.39% 40 TSL.MikOeL 80 - 17 T 97 82.47% | ||
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:38 GrandInquisitor wrote: some quick rough and ready stats P 13 T 14 Z 21 DOMINATORS AND/OR DODGERS (top 10 by winning %age) 31 tsl-eg.Nyoken 87 - 17 T 104 83.65% 40 TSL.MikOeL 80 - 17 T 97 82.47% 4 TSL-Strelok 109 - 26 T 135 80.74% 36 TSL.iNfeRnaL 82 - 20 P 102 80.39% 33 TSL-Arew 92 - 27 P 119 77.31% 35 tsl-marw 90 - 28 T 118 76.27% 10 TSL)Mondragon( 114 - 36 Z 150 76.00% 7 TSL-Fenix 108 - 35 T 143 75.52% 29 TSLiquid.Drone 114 - 38 Z 152 75.00% 42 TSL-Dreiven 97 - 33 P 130 74.62% NEWBIES AND/OR NON-DODGERS (bottom 10 by winning %age) 15 TSL-pampam 167 - 108 T 275 60.73% 24 TSL-KenZy 138 - 90 Z 228 60.53% 34 TSL-iNcontroL 187 - 122 Z 309 60.52% 47 TSL-NeMu 113 - 75 Z 188 60.11% 5 TSL.White-Ra 253 - 169 P 422 59.95% 12 tsl-terran 179 - 125 T 304 58.88% 23 TSL-OctZerg 321 - 230 Z 551 58.26% 41 TSL-Gamtja[X] 177 - 132 P 309 57.28% 22 TSL-Kr 239 - 185 P 424 56.37% 37 TSL-Sawyer. 183 - 144 T 327 55.96% GRINDERS (top 10 by games played) 23 TSL-OctZerg 321 - 230 Z 551 58.26% 22 TSL-Kr 239 - 185 P 424 56.37% 5 TSL.White-Ra 253 - 169 P 422 59.95% 27 TSL-CaStrO 231 - 125 Z 356 64.89% 37 TSL-Sawyer. 183 - 144 T 327 55.96% 2 TSL-mOrrow 206 - 108 T 314 65.61% 16 TSL-XiaOzI 202 - 111 Z 313 64.54% 34 TSL-iNcontroL 187 - 122 Z 309 60.52% 41 TSL-Gamtja[X] 177 - 132 P 309 57.28% 12 tsl-terran 179 - 125 T 304 58.88% COASTERS (bottom 10 by games played) 47 TSL-Naugrim 95 - 38 Z 133 71.43% 42 TSL-Dreiven 97 - 33 P 130 74.62% 39 TSL-TechnicS 95 - 35 Z 130 73.08% 38 TSL.GhosTa 94 - 35 T 129 72.87% 46 TSL-Shad[Pan] 91 - 37 Z 128 71.09% 33 TSL-Arew 92 - 27 P 119 77.31% 35 tsl-marw 90 - 28 T 118 76.27% 31 tsl-eg.nyoken 87 - 17 T 104 83.65% 36 TSL.iNfeRnaL 82 - 20 P 102 80.39% 40 TSL.MikOeL 80 - 17 T 97 82.47% Hmm, IdrA isn't anywhere on that list. I guess he got #1 on the ladder without doing a single thing. On a more serious note, I'm really looking forward to this! Nyoken vs Dreiven should be awesome. GL HF everyone! Haypro fighting! Naugrim fighting! Datoby fighting! Morrow fighting! WHITE-RA FIGHTING! | ||
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sYz-Adrenaline
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Hungary3932 Posts
(Lz was somewhere around that area too...) I'm glad G5 ended up making the cut. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:14 mtmf wrote: Talking about that, RICH was looking for someone with the Windows 7 crashing problem to develop a fix. Maybe Cloud should go for it before the qualifiers. I found out what it was. It was winamp making me crash while I was playing. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
A+: play-in with NonY A: seeded into the final qualifying match (Q3) A-: (everyone else in the top 48) | ||
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Group A: ( I wanted a toss for Kenzy )Horror > Nemu Kenzy > Horror Kenzy > Nony ( yea not too sure about that one lol but gogo Kenzy ) Group B: Koll > Naugrim Koll > Octo ( hard to tell ) Koll > Morrow Group C: Castro > Shad Castro > Kr Mana > Castro Group D: Avi > Datoby Avi > TT1 Strelok > Avi Group E: Closer > Eri Killer > Closer White-Ra > Killer Group F: Cloud > G5 Cloud > Flaf Ret > Cloud Group G: Dreiven > Nyoken ( hard to tell because i don't know if Dreiven is at 100% ) Dreiven > Casper Fenix > Dreiven Group H: Kawaii > Gamtja Tarson > Kawaii Tarson > Sziky Group I: Arew > Mikoel XiaOzl > Arew Koget > XiaOzl ( hard to tell honestly ) Group J: ( Good group for InC imo ) Inc > Technics Inc > Shaman Inc > Mondi ( yea i know Mondi should be the favourite but Inc is good at coin flips :p ) Group K: Ghosta > Marwin Yan > Ghosta Sen > Yan Group L: Infernal > Sawyer Infernal > Hayder Terran > Infernal | ||
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On December 16 2009 07:44 anderoo wrote: i'm nervous for koll, having to zvz octzerg No worries, he's gonna lose to Naugrim :-) I don't understand that fanboyism of Kolll, srsly. And Octy will rape his group, You'll see TechnicS is hella underrated, he's gonna dominate iNc in a ZvZ. | ||
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United States3714 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:39 DyEnasTy wrote: Where does Brat_OK fit into there? Or is not even competing? seeded straight into the ro16 iirc looking forward to watching these games so much | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:39 DyEnasTy wrote: Where does Brat_OK fit into there? Or is not even competing? He is already seeded to Ro16 with JF and Draco ... People need to stop to ask this question ^^ | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:28 JWD wrote: Isn't it funny how the ranks worked out? A+: play-in with NonY A: seeded into the final qualifying match (Q3) A-: (everyone else in the top 48) Didn't notice. That is freaky | ||
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Tarmak_mk
Macedonia410 Posts
predictions: Group A: NonY Group B: Kolll or Naugrim ( if both pass me, because both are extremlly good in zvt ) Group C: MaNa ( kid play's so good now ) Group D: Avi ( he is my favorite with Strelok, but i think avi got good zvt ) Group E: White-Ra ( ofc one of the best protoss's ) Group F: Flaf ( he gonna rape any protoss of that group and good match vs ret wich gonna be zvz worst mu to ret (rooting for JOS!!) ) Group G: Dreiven Group H: Tarson Group I: XiaOzi ( i trust in this guy ) Group J: Mondi ( ofc mondi is mondi ) Group K: SEn Group L: Hayder ( his zvp zvt are just awesome ) | ||
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:54 TSL-Gosudark- wrote: hey admins i am top 52 check gosugamers please GosuGamers is not the definitive source for TSL. Xiaozi had a complaint that went through and removed some of your points. See Plexa's response to you: On December 16 2009 09:54 Plexa wrote: After XiaoZi's complaints went through your score was 9048 at this page | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:54 TSL-Gosudark- wrote: hey admins i am top 52 check gosugamers please since when is this the GosuGamers star league? | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
since there is only 1 spanish in the tournament i hope you can go far mikoel, nice to see you still play | ||
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United States2140 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
I hope we get to see some of these games live/afterwards. | ||
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Canada642 Posts
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
If I have some time tomorrow after work I'll probably try to look through people's match list and see how they played against the players in their group. | ||
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United States1024 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:42 Boblion wrote: He is already seeded to Ro16 with JF and Draco ... People need to stop to ask this question ^^ No, I like asking since hes my fav foreign Terran player. And thanks for the response! | ||
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Calgary25978 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:54 TSL-Gosudark- wrote: hey admins i am top 52 check gosugamers please no youre not check teamliquid please | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
VEEEEEEE AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! Well, just to avoid ban, I'll add something that actually makes sense here. I think Avi actually has a shot at this. I'm rooting for him all the way and I hope he gets at least to the semis. | ||
TheFallofTroy
Canada780 Posts
Good Luck All Still rooting for you Lz | ||
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Sweden485 Posts
On December 16 2009 11:34 johnnyspazz wrote: sorry if this has been explained already but is each match going to be broadcasted live or are we just watching commentators commentating on a replay? just? I'm completely content watching casted replays, they're not gonna spoil the results beforehand. It would be really hard on people forcing every player/caster/etc to be ready at a specific time, and then stick to that schedule when other games are short/long. What I'm trying to say is that it will be much harder having a good cast without difficulties if they were to do it live. On December 16 2009 10:00 HnR)Insane wrote: GosuGamers is not the definitive source for TSL. Xiaozi had a complaint that went through and removed some of your points. See Plexa's response to you: at this page What complaint, why is this not posted in the "Final DQs and Point Adj..." thread? What happened? | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On December 16 2009 11:34 johnnyspazz wrote: sorry if this has been explained already but is each match going to be broadcasted live or are we just watching commentators commentating on a replay? Oh noe, it's a replay! | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
A: Nony B: Kolll (or Naugrim/Morrow) C: Castro (or Mana) D: Strelok E: White-Ra F: ret G: Fenix H: Sziky I: kogeT (or Xiaozi) J: Mondragon K: Marwin (or Sen) L: Terran (or Haypro/Infernal) Group B (despite the ZvZs) and Group L will be very interesting groups to follow. | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
Hoping for some epic games this TSL! | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 16 2009 11:27 citi.zen wrote: Fluffy has a good chance actually: he will play G5 or Cloud, both P, and if he wins he get Ret ZvZ. It could happen! Could but won't. His ZvZ is bad and he won't get past whichever P comes from the round before him. Mark my words. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On December 16 2009 12:01 Guybrush wrote: Also check if Caspers hotkeys match Androide, EX, or Bruce. Negatory. Will the map order of the qualifiers be announced at any specific time or will we just find out when it happens? e: Also, when's IdrA-NonY going down? During R1/R2? | ||
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United States16368 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
On December 16 2009 11:43 LorDo wrote: just? I'm completely content watching casted replays, they're not gonna spoil the results beforehand. It would be really hard on people forcing every player/caster/etc to be ready at a specific time, and then stick to that schedule when other games are short/long. What I'm trying to say is that it will be much harder having a good cast without difficulties if they were to do it live. What complaint, why is this not posted in the "Final DQs and Point Adj..." thread? What happened? It's ICCup side point adjustment, not ours. Therefore we didn't include it. Basically, Xiaozi had a pending complaint against Gosudark where Gosudark proxied and was scouted and left before 2 minutes (ICCup admins reviewed replay and credit Xiaozi with win and Gosudark with loss). | ||
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BG1
Canada1550 Posts
On December 16 2009 12:40 roronoe wrote: I'm just very surprised that the cutoff went from 9700something to 9156 : O Well 15 disqualifications can do that heh. | ||
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RemYnisce
United States24 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
A: Nony B: Kolll C: Mana D: Strelok E: White-Ra (gl to eriador too though! I hate that him and Ra are in same group cuz I really want them both to advance) F: ret G: Fenix H: Tarson I: Xiaozi J: Mondragon K: Sen L: Hayder | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
I'm so pumped for this! | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pl.png) Poland - 7![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/us.png) USA - 6![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/de.png) Germany - 6![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ca.png) Canada - 4![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/se.png) Sweden - 4![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ua.png) Ukraine - 3![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) Russia - 2![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/pe.png) Peru - 2![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ro.png) Romania - 2![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/lt.png) Lithuania - 2![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/bg.png) Bulgaria - 2![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/nl.png) Netherlands - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/hu.png) Hungary - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/tw.png) Taiwan - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/mx.png) Mexico - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/cl.png) Chile - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/mk.png) Macedonia - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/fr.png) France - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/dk.png) Denmark - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/no.png) Norway - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/it.png) Italy - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/es.png) Spain - 1![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/at.png) Austria - 1 | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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eatavegi
United States3 Posts
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vRoOk
United States1024 Posts
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BG1
Canada1550 Posts
On December 16 2009 14:09 qrs wrote: Wow, after all of the disqualifications, if Kwark had only parked at 9305, he would be in the TSL. Well he'd be in the TSL qualifiers, I can't see any groups where he could've had a chance to advance into the actual tourney.. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
drone's group looks tough | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 16 2009 14:03 EvilTeletubby wrote: For those interested in distribution by country... we have a very international TSL here: Poland - 6 Germany - 6 USA - 5 Sweden - 4 Ukraine - 3 Canada - 3 Peru - 2 Romania - 2 Lithuania - 2 Bulgaria - 2 Netherlands - 1 Hungary - 1 Taiwan - 1 Mexico - 1 Russia - 1 Chile - 1 Macedonia - 1 France - 1 Denmark - 1 Norway - 1 Italy - 1 Spain - 1 Austria - 1theres 6 americans | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3417 Posts
He obviously didn't count the people who already qualified. +1 Poland (Draco) +1 Canada (JF) +1 Russia (Brat_OK) +1 USA (Idra or Nony) | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
Edit - Yes, I'm retarded and forgot to count the seeds... let me fix. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
Nony Octzerg (this group is stacked for real, coul be Koll actually) Kr Strelok White Ra Ret Fenix Sziky Xiaozl Mondragon Sen Infernal | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
Stuck with 2 Zergs and if he pulls through them a BO5 vs White-Ra, just not doable I think, but who knows maybe the king of Queens got something planned for this. I will be rooting for you anyway Eri!Group G and L also looks really hard to predict. Will these group stages be broadcasted? | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11575 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Group A mTw.HorroR > iF.NeMu mT.wHorroR > LRM)KenZy NonY > mTw.Horror Group B ESC.Kolll > ToT)Naugrim( LRM)OctZerg > ESC.Kolll eX-v1o)MorroW > LRM)OctZerg Group C [Pan]Castro > [Pan]Shad T.Sqd)Kr > [Pan]CastrO T.Sqd)Kr > ESC.Mana [Group D BW-Datoby > Avi-Love BW-Datoby > [Pan]KabaL ESC.Strelok > BW-Datoby Group E Eri > mTw.closeR Eri > osR.KiLLeR ESC.White-Ra > Eri Group F inF.Cloud > G5[Media] inF.Cloud > NrT.FlaF ESC.ret > inF.Cloud Group G EG.Nyoken > ESC.Dreiven EG.Nyoken > iG.Casper EG.Nyoken > RoX.KIS.Fenix Group H [Pan]KawaiiRice > eX-v1o)Gamtja iG.Tarson > [Pan]KawaiiRice iG.Tarson > Sziky[VT] Group I ex-v1o)Arew > LRM)MikOeL ToT)xiOzI( > ex-v1o)Arew ToT)XiaOxI( > iG.kogeT Group J EG.iNControL > LRM)TechnicS Shaman > EG.iNControL ToT)Mondragon( > Shaman Group K RoX.Kis.Marwin > ESC.GhosTa RoX.KIS.Marwin > fOsc.Yan Duskbin.Sen > RoX.KIS.Marwin Group L mTw.iNfeRnaL > eX-v1o)Sawyer mTw.iNfeRnaL > ToT)Hayder( Gosl[Terran] > mTw.InFeRnaL Predicted Advancing Players + Show Spoiler + NonY ESC.White-Ra eX-v1o)MorroW EG.Nyoken ESC.Strelok ESC.ret ToT)XiaOzi( T.Sqd)Kr ToT)Mondragon( iG.Tarsin Duskbin.Sen Gosl[Terran] | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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BaltA
Norway849 Posts
On December 16 2009 15:43 Avidkeystamper wrote: Why's there such a long gap between the end of the ladder and the start of Qualifiers? maybe because it's christmas? | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On December 16 2009 15:43 Avidkeystamper wrote: Why's there such a long gap between the end of the ladder and the start of Qualifiers? Some ppl have a life beside of gaming and christmastime is familytime, you would not make ppl choosing between Family and Qualifiers, do you? I am looking forward to the groupstage and i hope all the ToTies gonna make it :D Admins did a great job here | ||
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waxypants
United States479 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
 NeMu (He has really good ZvZ and ZvP, havent seen him play a good terran, tho)B: Kolll C: CaStrOD: Kabal or StrelokE: White-RaF: RetG: Dreiven or FenixH: KawaiiRice <3I: kogeTJ: TechnicS (sick ZvZ)K: SEn ezL: iNfeRnaL | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
the abuser really did some damage beside-- just abusing.. u know.. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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mozz
Bulgaria22 Posts
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Torlak
Macedonia74 Posts
On December 16 2009 17:30 MaGic~PhiL wrote: with whom am i mistaking Technics I always thought he play terran.. T_T Lamer maybe? | ||
GTR
51425 Posts
On December 16 2009 17:30 MaGic~PhiL wrote: with whom am i mistaking Technics I always thought he play terran.. T_T Lamer? Beast? | ||
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rel
Guam3521 Posts
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
Predictions + Show Spoiler + Group A mTw.HorroR > iF.NeMu mTw.HorroR > LRM)KenZy mTw.HorroR>Nony Group B ESC.Kolll > ToT)Naugrim( ESC.Kolll>LRM)OctZerg ESC.Kolll>eX-v1o)MorroW Group C [Pan]Castro > [Pan]Shad T.Sqd)Kr > [Pan]CastrO ESC.Mana>T.Sqd)Kr [Group D Avi-Love>BW-Datoby [Pan]KabaL>Avi-Love ESC.Strelok >[Pan]KabaL Group E Eri > mTw.closeR Eri > osR.KiLLeR ESC.White-Ra > Eri Group F inF.Cloud > G5[Media] inF.Cloud > NrT.FlaF ESC.ret > inF.Cloud Group G ESC.Dreiven>EG.Nyoken iG.Casper> ESC.Dreiven iG.Casper> RoX.KIS.Fenix Group H [Pan]KawaiiRice > eX-v1o)Gamtja iG.Tarson > [Pan]KawaiiRice Sziky[VT]>iG.Tarson Group I ex-v1o)Arew > LRM)MikOeL ex-v1o)Arew>ToT)xiOzI( v1o)Arew> iG.kogeT Group J EG.iNControL > LRM)TechnicS EG.iNControL > Shaman ToT)Mondragon( > EG.Incontrol Group K RoX.Kis.Marwin > ESC.GhosTa RoX.KIS.Marwin > fOsc.Yan Duskbin.Sen > RoX.KIS.Marwin Group L mTw.iNfeRnaL > eX-v1o)Sawyer mTw.iNfeRnaL > ToT)Hayder( mTw.InFeRnaL>Gosl[Terran] | ||
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Makin
Chile36 Posts
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CoL_Drake
Germany455 Posts
On December 16 2009 17:21 Mortician wrote: A: NeMu (He has really good ZvZ and ZvP, havent seen him play a good terran, tho)B: Kolll C: CaStrOD: Kabal or StrelokE: White-RaF: RetG: Dreiven or FenixH: KawaiiRice <3I: kogeTJ: TechnicS (sick ZvZ)K: SEn ezL: iNfeRnaLofc u are not bulgarian favor ^^ sry but technics have rly NO chance in his group not even a little vs mondragon and co xDD sry but thats a pure joke and nemu is zvp rly strong but i dont think he can zvt beat horror ^^ and nony well i dont think so ^^ but NEVER technics xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
this will be really interesting! hope for some good matches! | ||
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Phradamon
Romania191 Posts
Go Shaman !!! Bafta! | ||
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exeprime
United Kingdom643 Posts
On December 16 2009 20:17 Phradamon wrote: Shaman & Flaf rulz.... Let them know we didnt was 5th team on the world few years ago for nothing... Go Shaman !!! Bafta! | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On December 16 2009 19:46 CoL_Drake wrote: ofc u are not bulgarian favor ^^ sry but technics have rly NO chance in his group not even a little vs mondragon and co xDD sry but thats a pure joke and nemu is zvp rly strong but i dont think he can zvt beat horror ^^ and nony well i dont think so ^^ but NEVER technics xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I have no idea how good shaman is now,but technics is definately capable of beating Inc, and can upset mondragon. Technics` zvz is top class. | ||
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Substandard
Italy270 Posts
On December 16 2009 20:49 mdb wrote: I have no idea how good shaman is now,but technics is definately capable of beating Inc, and can upset mondragon. Technics` zvz is top class. It would certainly be an upset but nothing is impossible in foreign bw. | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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Blue
Norway359 Posts
how will ro16 of TSL bracket be decided? is it randomly generated? can the seeds from last TSL meet each other in first round? | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
Nemu versus Horror (60% - 40%) Nemu in his current shape can take out Horror without any doubt. It's just people got no idea how good Nemu really is and got no idea of his level of play. Nemu versus KenZy (70% - 30%) Nemu will beat him easily. KenZy is a player who relys a lot on surprises and when he fails in his first attack hes dead. Nemu versus NonY (70% - 30%) NonY was in Korea for some months? He have played with professional players and have learnt a thing or two. Yeah but who cares? He is currently a washed up player who isnt taking this game seriously anymore and is only coming back for TSL. Who is Nemu? A guy who can trash every foreigner protoss out there. He have beaten recently people like White-Ra fairly easy so facts speak enough. Nemu versus IdrA (25% - 75%) IdrA is the favourite but as every favourite he is beatable. I dont like using words as impossible but Nemus chances of taking out IdrA in a bo5 are very low. Still he can win at least one game and not lose with a zero score. *thoughts* NonY got no chance in beating IdrA at the moment. It's pretty obvious to me that NonY will have to play a bo5 with the player who passes first two rounds. If Nemu passes Horror (who is the biggest threat in my eyes) he is gonna win the group. Technics versus Incontrol ( 60% - 40%) Lets say i know how good can Technics perform and how good Incontrol actualy is. Incontrol have never been a top player just a good player who can win most people (not everyone) Technics shows some level of activity last few months so hes the favourite in my eyes. Technics versus Shaman ( 60% - 40%) Shaman is overrated. Its really nessasery to state that first. Im not saying Technics is something special but hes one level above Shaman. Technics versus Mondragon (30% - 70%) It's Mondragon. Still its a ZvZ and Technics can win only by having a better bo so he have some chances. *thoughts* Technics will lose to Mondragon in round 3. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
just because he's bulgarian doesn't mean he's that good. u gotta skate. | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
Horror , KenZy , NonY (current moment) , Incontrol , Shaman are not better than Nemu and Technics. It's just your an ignorant guy who dont know anything about bulgarian players skill. You think your country can match mine with better starcraft players? You ever heard of people like Mr.X , DiDi8 , Beast , Lamer etc? | ||
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MaD4tehwin
Poland11 Posts
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
You can make it | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
On December 16 2009 22:20 sashkata wrote: Clearly an objective point of view. lol And who are you? I have played a thousand times with Nemu and Technics. I've played also with everyone with whom they are facing in the groups (except NonY) and im really objective in my opinion. It's not my problem youve never hanged around with people who can actualy play this game and stuff. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On December 16 2009 22:13 iG.SwOrD wrote: Nemu will beat everyone in his group. Nemu versus Horror (60% - 40%) Nemu in his current shape can take out Horror without any doubt. It's just people got no idea how good Nemu really is and got no idea of his level of play. Nemu versus KenZy (70% - 30%) Nemu will beat him easily. KenZy is a player who relys a lot on surprises and when he fails in his first attack hes dead. Nemu versus NonY (70% - 30%) NonY was in Korea for some months? He have played with professional players and have learnt a thing or two. Yeah but who cares? He is currently a washed up player who isnt taking this game seriously anymore and is only coming back for TSL. Who is Nemu? A guy who can trash every foreigner protoss out there. He have beaten recently people like White-Ra fairly easy so facts speak enough. Nemu versus IdrA (25% - 75%) IdrA is the favourite but as every favourite he is beatable. I dont like using words as impossible but Nemus chances of taking out IdrA in a bo5 are very low. Still he can win at least one game and not lose with a zero score. *thoughts* NonY got no chance in beating IdrA at the moment. It's pretty obvious to me that NonY will have to play a bo5 with the player who passes first two rounds. If Nemu passes Horror (who is the biggest threat in my eyes) he is gonna win the group. Technics versus Incontrol ( 60% - 40%) Lets say i know how good can Technics perform and how good Incontrol actualy is. Incontrol have never been a top player just a good player who can win most people (not everyone) Technics shows some level of activity last few months so hes the favourite in my eyes. Technics versus Shaman ( 60% - 40%) Shaman is overrated. Its really nessasery to state that first. Im not saying Technics is something special but hes one level above Shaman. Technics versus Mondragon (30% - 70%) It's Mondragon. Still its a ZvZ and Technics can win only by having a better bo so he have some chances. *thoughts* Technics will lose to Mondragon in round 3. Nemu is good but you are overrating him | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
On December 16 2009 22:23 iG.SwOrD wrote: You ever heard of people like Mr.X , DiDi8 , Beast , Lamer etc? no there's a reason for that | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
Yeah obivously. The reason is that you dont know anything about broodwar. | ||
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Get.Midikem
Sweden312 Posts
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + horror>nemu horror>kenzy idra/nony>horror koll>naugrim koll>octz koll>morrow castro>shad kr>castro kr>mana avi>datoby avi>tt1 strelok>avi drone>closer drone>killer whitera>drone cloud>g5 cloud>flaf cloud>ret dreiven>nyoken dreiven>casper dreiven>fenix gamtja>kawai tarson>gamtja sziky>tarson arew>mikoel xiaozi>arew xiaozi>koget incontrol>technics incontrol>shaman mondi>incontrol marwin>ghosta marwin>yan sen>marwin sawyer>infernal sawyer>haypro sawyer>gosI | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
let starcraft do the talking | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 16 2009 22:59 Coulthard wrote: sawyer>infernal sawyer>haypro sawyer>gosI No way lol. Sawyer is arguably the weakest player of the top 48 and this group is really hard. | ||
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Shiva_Chandra
Denmark341 Posts
I suspect I'll lose when it matters though, oh well 8D | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
looking forward to idra vs nony! | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
There's no point in hiding that you favor your countrymen. Bulgarians favor Bulgarians, Germans favor Germans, Poles favor Poles and so on and so forth. That's the way it was, is and will be. There's nothing wrong with it. However, it's really contemptible that you argue about it insulting others at the same time. Get some manners, will you ? | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
Cheers, | ||
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Get.Midikem
Sweden312 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
Idra, Nony, Morrow, Mana, Strelok, White-ra, Ret, Fenix, Sziky, Koget, Mondragon, Sen and GosI. All about the odds. | ||
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
On December 16 2009 22:23 iG.SwOrD wrote: dood , ur sad Horror , KenZy , NonY (current moment) , Incontrol , Shaman are not better than Nemu and Technics. It's just your an ignorant guy who dont know anything about bulgarian players skill. You think your country can match mine with better starcraft players? You ever heard of people like Mr.X , DiDi8 , Beast , Lamer etc? I am aware of DiDi8, Lamer and other players, but it's not the same. they have proven themselves. Tehnics is a good player, maybe even advance into Q3, but is not good enough to reach anything in TSL top 16. The results will tell the story. Until then, your guess is as good as mine. NonY already stated he will practice a lot, horror has a bunch of achievements, so gl Nemu and Technics. | ||
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Vic.nQQ
Bulgaria88 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote: "inc has a pretty good shot at beating technics" ^_________________________________________^. You have to be careful tho, he just won ESL Bulgaria finals ^_^ | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On December 17 2009 01:36 s.a.y wrote: I am aware of DiDi8, Lamer and other players, but it's not the same. they have proven themselves. Tehnics is a good player, maybe even advance into Q3, but is not good enough to reach anything in TSL top 16. The results will tell the story. Until then, your guess is as good as mine. NonY already stated he will practice a lot, horror has a bunch of achievements, so gl Nemu and Technics. Well Technics's ZvZ is about equal compared to top foreign zergs so anything can happen in that group . Lamer was really good when he was active , but it's a shame that there was no WCG Bulgaria this year and he isn't participating in this bigger event . | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
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Prof. Protoss
Germany744 Posts
Group A:  KenZyI let my guts decide Group B: MorroWDuring WCG I became a huge Kolll fan (comeon, he's the wonderkid! and he beat IdrA! and he's german! ) but I'm really impressed by Morrows second placeGroup C: MaNayeah he's the best in this group Group D: StrelokThe terran warship will roll this one Group E: ESC.White-RaWhite-Ra is just too big of a name. I couldn't chose anyone else Group F: ESC.retI know a lot of people voted this for group of death, but I have the feeling they only did because Ret's in it.Group G: FenixWould've voted Dreiven but I think he's not active enough these days.Group H: Sziky[VT]not really sure about this group. He was on top so he was my choice  Group I:  ArewI gotta feeling. UUUUUuuuuuuhh ooooh. That tonight...... Group J: MondragonMondragon will make it to the semi finals. Mark my words!Group K: MarwinMy real name's Marvin so autovote Grouo L: iNfeRnaLCmon iNfeRnaL, you can do it put your  asS into it! | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On December 16 2009 08:48 ondik wrote: dude, group B is so sick. Anyone can win it, people are underestimating Naugrim but he's totally on par with the others. Wanted to see kolll, morrow and octzerg in top16, too bad I'd put Naugrim as the favorite vs Morrow, he went 3-0 vs him on DH | ||
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Chillz
Canada100 Posts
On December 17 2009 00:12 Chrispy wrote: My Predictions of top 16: Idra, Nony, Morrow, Mana, Strelok, White-ra, Ret, Fenix, Sziky, Koget, Mondragon, Sen and GosI. All about the odds. Something is wrong here ... you only listed 13 ... and JF is missing but has to be in the top 16 because he automatically qualifies into the TSL. I think you were trying to pick the 13 who will move on from the qualifiers + Idra and Nony. | ||
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On December 17 2009 04:51 Chillz wrote: Something is wrong here ... you only listed 13 ... and JF is missing but has to be in the top 16 because he automatically qualifies into the TSL. I think you were trying to pick the 13 who will move on from the qualifiers + Idra and Nony. I suggest you count how many groups there are He is presumably not including the people seeded from previous TSL: JF, Draco, and Brat_OK. | ||
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nicoaldo
Argentina939 Posts
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Gangrel
United States137 Posts
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Corrupt
Bulgaria1312 Posts
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GTR
51425 Posts
IefNaijDracoBRAT_OKIdrANonYKolllMaNaStrelokWhite-RaRetNyokenSzikykogeTMondragonSEniNfeRnaL6 Zergs / 6 Protoss / 4 Terrans | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
IefNaijDracoBRAT_OKIdrAHoRRoRNaugrimKrAvi-LoveWhite-RaRetDreivenTarsonXiaOzIMondragonSEnHayprOWishful thinking ^^ | ||
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zergpower123
United States197 Posts
Found this on the Ret facebook fan page His strategy of doing nothing is unbeatable and invincible!!!!!!! GO RET! ![[image loading]](http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs060.snc3/14735_220015257016_219990252016_3282549_2446532_n.jpg) | ||
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Also, i think you should grant Ret a Bo7 in his game, it would be soooo horrible if he got a ZvZ and lost due to BO-disadvantage | ||
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n3gative
Canada369 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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LorDo
Sweden485 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On December 16 2009 22:13 iG.SwOrD wrote: Nemu will beat everyone in his group. Nemu versus Horror (60% - 40%) Nemu in his current shape can take out Horror without any doubt. It's just people got no idea how good Nemu really is and got no idea of his level of play. Nemu versus KenZy (70% - 30%) Nemu will beat him easily. KenZy is a player who relys a lot on surprises and when he fails in his first attack hes dead. Nemu versus NonY (70% - 30%) NonY was in Korea for some months? He have played with professional players and have learnt a thing or two. Yeah but who cares? He is currently a washed up player who isnt taking this game seriously anymore and is only coming back for TSL. Who is Nemu? A guy who can trash every foreigner protoss out there. He have beaten recently people like White-Ra fairly easy so facts speak enough. Nemu versus IdrA (25% - 75%) IdrA is the favourite but as every favourite he is beatable. I dont like using words as impossible but Nemus chances of taking out IdrA in a bo5 are very low. Still he can win at least one game and not lose with a zero score. *thoughts* NonY got no chance in beating IdrA at the moment. It's pretty obvious to me that NonY will have to play a bo5 with the player who passes first two rounds. If Nemu passes Horror (who is the biggest threat in my eyes) he is gonna win the group. Technics versus Incontrol ( 60% - 40%) Lets say i know how good can Technics perform and how good Incontrol actualy is. Incontrol have never been a top player just a good player who can win most people (not everyone) Technics shows some level of activity last few months so hes the favourite in my eyes. Technics versus Shaman ( 60% - 40%) Shaman is overrated. Its really nessasery to state that first. Im not saying Technics is something special but hes one level above Shaman. Technics versus Mondragon (30% - 70%) It's Mondragon. Still its a ZvZ and Technics can win only by having a better bo so he have some chances. *thoughts* Technics will lose to Mondragon in round 3. LorDo versus IdrA (99% - 1%) IdrA is a korean progamer, so he is bound to be pretty good. However I have played many games with LorDo, he is good. He actually held on to D last season. Therefore I think IdrA has no shot. He might win one game with cheese, no more. It's not an impossible scenario for IdrA but LorDo is so underrated. My girlfriend versus IdrA (50% - 50%) My girlfriend has seen me play many times, I have even explained about the three races. But as stated before IdrA is no scrub. He definitely has a chance. His macro is good. My GF is bound to have at least 30 apm when trying hard, plus she's a good cook (very useful talent toi have) So she should have a fair chance! | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Looking for a strong turn out from Canada, Go Canucks!! | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
IefNaijDracoBRAT_OKIdrANonY NeMuMorroW KolllMaNa CaStrOStrelokWhite-RaRet  ClouDFenix DreivenSziky TarsonXiaOzI ArewMondragonSEnGosI[Terran] HayprOPlayers I wish had easier groups:  Liquid`DroneG5NaugrimTT1NyokeniNfeRnaLI'm probably not putting enough zergs in the final 16 based on recent performances, but then again foreign tournaments never follow trends. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On December 17 2009 09:14 LorDo wrote: LorDo versus IdrA (99% - 1%) IdrA is a korean progamer, so he is bound to be pretty good. However I have played many games with LorDo, he is good. He actually held on to D last season. Therefore I think IdrA has no shot. He might win one game with cheese, no more. It's not an impossible scenario for IdrA but LorDo is so underrated. My girlfriend versus IdrA (50% - 50%) My girlfriend has seen me play many times, I have even explained about the three races. But as stated before IdrA is no scrub. He definitely has a chance. His macro is good. My GF is bound to have at least 30 apm when trying hard, plus she's a good cook (very useful talent toi have) So she should have a fair chance! hahahahaha gold | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 17 2009 06:45 Skeggaba wrote: Maybe im stupid, but does it say anywhere when the commentating will begin? Also, i think you should grant Ret a Bo7 in his game, it would be soooo horrible if he got a ZvZ and lost due to BO-disadvantage that is the price you pay for defilers | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 17 2009 11:24 Trezeguet23 wrote: I feel bad for morrow, he put in so much effort to get 1st and then ends up with some of the toughest opponents. On the other hand, octzerg has a pretty clear Achilles heel. In the case that hardcore korean dodging and playing people 2 ranks below your own rank equals putting in a lot of effort, I believe that you are absolutely correct. It's amazing how the definition of effort seems to vary quite a bit. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On December 17 2009 11:52 Shikyo wrote: In the case that hardcore korean dodging and playing people 2 ranks below your own rank equals putting in a lot of effort, I believe that you are absolutely correct. It's amazing how the definition of effort seems to vary quite a bit. isn't there some saying that Time = Effort? Not to mention how much you are shortchanging Mamon. Edit: Def: The use of physical or mental energy to do something So yeah | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On December 17 2009 11:55 Trezeguet23 wrote: isn't there some saying that Time = Effort? Not to mention how much you are shortchanging Mamon. Edit: Def: The use of physical or mental energy to do something So yeah Sending streams of lings 800 games in a row requires little to no physical or mental energy. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 17 2009 11:55 Trezeguet23 wrote: isn't there some saying that Time = Effort? Not to mention how much you are shortchanging Mamon. Edit: Def: The use of physical or mental energy to do something So yeah Well he cheesed like every game in the early stages and afterwards played a Korean just about every 50th game in the later levels, and in his A-rank he mostly played against B+ players and some A- foreigners. As I said, if that's your definition of effort, be my guest. I have a different definition. EDIT: In the case you're wondering, White-Ra is an example of what I mean by having put "so much effort", as you put it. | ||
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zergpower123
United States197 Posts
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1166 Posts
a) Nony b)kolll c) Mana d) Strelok e) White-ra f) ret g) Dreiven h) Tarson i) Koget j) Mondragon k) Yan l) Hayder And i wish: a - Nemu b - Naugrim c - Kr d - avi e -white-ra f - g5 g - dreiven h - sziky i - arew j - Technics k - Sen l - the smurfin mexican kid ;o | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On December 17 2009 17:32 Xeris wrote: dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48 There is this little thing called Christmas that some people like to celebrate you know... | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 17 2009 17:32 Xeris wrote: dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48 Heard of a thing called Christmas? Or New Year? | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
On December 17 2009 17:32 Xeris wrote: dang ... I just realized, why are there 3 weeks between now and when the games actually start? that seems like such a big gap for just the ro48 1. We wanted to have time to advertise, and for the players to have time to practice 2. We didn't want to organize/work and have the players play during Christmas and New Years | ||
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Perfect Assassin
Mexico56 Posts
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1166 Posts
On December 17 2009 17:42 Plexa wrote: Heard of a thing called Christmas? Or New Year? Well xeris is kinda turkish so he is not supposed to know what is xmas ;o | ||
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Kizlyk
Ukraine84 Posts
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Tudazul
Brazil400 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On December 17 2009 19:06 Kizlyk wrote: For Russians and Ukrainians Cristmas is on January 7 advokate and dimaga were accepting presents early though | ||
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Chillz
Canada100 Posts
On December 17 2009 04:55 HnR)Insane wrote: I suggest you count how many groups there are He is presumably not including the people seeded from previous TSL: JF, Draco, and Brat_OK. I understand how it works, which is why I posted in the first place because calling 13 people the top 16 doesn't really make sense. If he said "my prediction of those who will make it into the top 16" it would have made sense and is probably what he meant. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On December 17 2009 23:23 Chillz wrote: I understand how it works, which is why I posted in the first place because calling 13 people the top 16 doesn't really make sense. If he said "my prediction of those who will make it into the top 16" it would have made sense and is probably what he meant. yaa damn i was going to post exactly like that, well all i can say is that i agree with you. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On December 17 2009 17:42 Plexa wrote: Heard of a thing called Christmas? Or New Year? holidays are probably the best time to play starcraft? you're just sitting at home with family... go to your room, play some bw, go back out with family. so easy! | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 16 2009 09:37 Crucifix wrote: No worries, he's gonna lose to Naugrim :-) I don't understand that fanboyism of Kolll, srsly. And Octy will rape his group, You'll see TechnicS is hella underrated, he's gonna dominate iNc in a ZvZ. I think that there are quite a few people that are being overlooked just because they are in a group with more known players. | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
On December 17 2009 17:42 Plexa wrote: Heard of a thing called Christmas? Or New Year? Ahem ahem... Entertainment industry-hello!! Entertain us when we are most entertainable, such as during the holiday season. | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
On December 17 2009 22:42 RaGe wrote: advokate and dimaga were accepting presents early though haha^^ | ||
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Culpable
Sweden7 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On December 18 2009 03:47 Culpable wrote: idra said "Morrow actually had a pretty good chance of advancing" .. well if he does he really deserves his spot since imo he has one of the far hardest groups of course MorroW has a good chance.... | ||
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Leath
Canada1724 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/images/players/28.png) Did they butcher Ret's picture? Some of the pictures at TSLD are hilarious. :D | ||
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Substandard
Italy270 Posts
Morrow has only Z opponents in his group which is his strongest matchup from what i've heard (dunno though). That's what Idra was referring to. | ||
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zergpower123
United States197 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On December 18 2009 04:42 Leath wrote: MOONZERG FTW!!! Did they butcher Ret's picture? Some of the pictures at TSLD are hilarious. :D I lol'd | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
On December 17 2009 22:42 RaGe wrote: advokate and dimaga were accepting presents early though :3 | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 18 2009 05:19 Substandard wrote: Morrow has only Z opponents in his group which is his strongest matchup from what i've heard (dunno though). That's what Idra was referring to. no, he has a very mediocre group. l g f and c are all quite a bit stronger | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
oct is ofc an easy ride and he does have a decent chance of beating either one of them since its zvz and the other great part is that this all is tvz thats all i have to practice while the others are forced to practice zvz. im very lucky with my group but please dont call naugrim mediocre, hes so gosu man idra he would win against u like kolll and ret does ) edit: idra im not saying that ret or kolll are better than u im just saying these are the only zerg foreigners who are able to pick games from u in standard gamestyle, and i also think naugrim includes to this group. and thats why i think he should belong to the best zvt gamers because he can play standard on this high caliber of gaming | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
calling Cloud and G5 very good and Naugrim,Morrow medicore and kolll questionable is simply kinda stupid Idra.. calling nau and koll the best zvt players around is kinda stupid, too ret is probably better at the very very least on the same level so is hayder and Sen edit: do we already know which maps in particular will be played in the qualifiers ? I like Destination,Fighting Spirit and Outsider .. but kinda off topic anyway but mabye someone knows | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 18 2009 16:36 MaGic~PhiL wrote: dear lord you are both wrong calling Cloud and G5 very good and Naugrim,Morrow medicore and kolll questionable is simply kinda stupid Idra.. calling nau and koll the best zvt players around is kinda stupid, too ret is probably better at the very very least on the same level so is hayder and Sen edit: do we already know which maps in particular will be played in the qualifiers ? I like Destination,Fighting Spirit and Outsider .. but kinda off topic anyway but mabye someone knows cloud and g5 are very good, naugrim and morrow are mediocre. kolll obviously did well at wcg, but since then he lost to koget and morrow. that definitely raises questions. whats stupid is you trying to judge the skill of players when you dont know anything. | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On December 18 2009 16:08 IdrA wrote: ah if only i were good enough to get 4th at dreamhack so people couldnt make fun of me The funniest part of this is that you are far far better than 4th at Dreamhack...but people still make fun of you. | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
and im just saying my opinion about naugrim and kolll, ofcourse i have no facts i just say what i think. if others think other zergs are better at zvt then sure think so. just because we disagree doesnt mean the other one is wrong :p and if u still didnt notice im talking about zerg vs terran, not zergs as all-round gamers. id probably label dimaga and mondragon the scariest zerg gamers but then again i dont really know zvp or zvz~~ (and again i dont say ret cause its obvious xd) but ye majority of ur post was based on inkas post and he started it all so he just has himself to blame for that. im not a dick to people, im a dick to people who are a dick to me for no apparent reason. so he bm me i bm back and u call me a dick, so for next time try get both guys sides of the story before u start judging/flaming people some guy even made a motivational picture of it lol + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/04cRn.jpg) tons of ppl are flaming me, i take 10 times more shit than i give back. frankly i dont give a fuck about what you guys are talking behind my back but i dont want you lying in my face like this | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On December 18 2009 17:31 IdrA wrote: cloud and g5 are very good, naugrim and morrow are mediocre. kolll obviously did well at wcg, but since then he lost to koget and morrow. that definitely raises questions. whats stupid is you trying to judge the skill of players when you dont know anything. Just because someone loses games to people who are considered worse that doesn't mean they should automatically be labeled as bad players, by that logic players like BRAT would be considered bad since Naugrim 2-0'd him some time ago, or you being bad since koll 2-0'd you. Ok if they consistenlty kept losing to bad players but i wouldn't say that's the case with Kolll, now i'm not one of the Kolll fanboys that keep riding his nuts no matter what, but i'd say he's at least above mediocre. Just my two non-A+cents | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 18 2009 20:00 grobo wrote: Just because someone loses games to people who are considered worse that doesn't mean they should automatically be labeled as bad players, by that logic players like BRAT would be considered bad since Naugrim 2-0'd him some time ago, or you being bad since koll 2-0'd you. Ok if they consistenlty kept losing to bad players but i wouldn't say that's the case with Kolll, now i'm not one of the Kolll fanboys that keep riding his nuts no matter what, but i'd say he's at least above mediocre. Just my two non-A+cents i said kolll was questionable, not bad or mediocre. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
just dont get it T_T I get the feeling u jugdge from your tvp vs g5 point of view here.. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On December 18 2009 20:09 IdrA wrote: i said kolll was questionable, not bad or mediocre. My bad, sorry | ||
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Wurzelbrumpft
Germany471 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
wrong topic T_T | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On December 18 2009 02:18 Xeris wrote: holidays are probably the best time to play starcraft? you're just sitting at home with family... go to your room, play some bw, go back out with family. so easy! No. Holidays is the easiest time to accept w/o's as an admin. It is the worst time to game. You got it wrong. | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
and u say my self confidence is low? wtf ? have we met? generally i dont give a fuck and i just laugh when ppl like inka nerd rage on me, i feel sorry for them. but when u god damned americans mostly are here on tl.net you make me seem like the biggest dick of all time when i have done nothing but defending myself. and now when you realize your wrong and u got lawyered so now you change point and subject to telling me not to care what ppl say about me which includes you...(?) just leave me alone and fucking admit to urself it was u ppl who start these ridiculous flame wars that nobody gives a fuck about now its like this - i love this community, i love the majority of ppl who play sc really really much and i love spending time with them. i dont wanna block the entire community out by not giving a fuck about what they think of me just because some black sheeps are spreading bad rumors for w/e reason. im not bad manner and im not a dick, try give me a chance and see me in iccup for urselves instead of listening to what ppl like incontrol says 99% of the new ppl i meet on iccup are like "wow man your alot more manner than i thought u would be" so now, i hope you are done with this cause we wont get any further than this -.- | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I wasn't going to say anything but you randomly threw my name in there so I will pull the morrow card and just "defend myself" rofl | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
MorroW, my first post was to try and get you to stop posting so much shit about people. Yes I failed because I was too harsh. I appoligize. After your next post I realized you were posting rude shit to people because you feel disrespected, so I tried to give you some insight to my thoughts / past experiences regarding the matter on taking shit to personally / getting over defensive. Didn't work, possibly my fault on how I approached it in that post or the post before it, either way it obviously didn't take. Either way, as I said, I have nothing personal against you, you have never been bm / rude to me, So yeah, maybe I shouldn't have called you out. I did it because I see it destroying not only your rep (which you obviously care about) but also because the majority of the people you are calling out are my friends of many years whom I have met many times and plan on being friends with for hopefully the rest of my life and I care about them deeply and would physically fight for (yup, thats who I am). I will stop now and just say that I have no hard feelings vs you. I used to be defensive like you vs everyone (still am... rarely though) and I just want you to know that nothing good comes out of it... EVER. Best of luck to you in the tournamnt and in your life. I mean that. + Show Spoiler + God I love your humor / personality iNc rofl. No offense MorroW, Geoff is just my boy. <3 | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On December 18 2009 20:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: no it is common knowledge you are a douche bag. I wasn't going to say anything but you randomly threw my name in there so I will pull the morrow card and just "defend myself" rofl Rofl at you of all people calling out someone for bad manner ~~ Still sore that he raped you after you randomly started to flame him in the standings thread hmm? | ||
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groro
67 Posts
On December 18 2009 20:59 G5 wrote: I did it because I see it destroying not only your rep (which you obviously care about) but also because the majority of the people you are calling out are my friends of many years whom I have met many times and plan on being friends with for hopefully the rest of my life and I care about them deeply and would physically fight for (yup, thats who I am) thats a good attitude aslong as you dont bow down the rights of others or what is usually right and wrong in your mind in favor of your friends or beloved ones. for example you go to korea in a team and one kid got a problem with you and everybody things yeah he is my korean fellow and long term friend, so when he got a problem with this new foreign kid then i got one too. in this case you couldnt praise this lets say corrupted version of always there for my friends. but i am talking generally and not because of this discussion that happend here. just wanted to add that there can also be a darkside of that and that imo nobody should sacrifice parts of his own convictions of what is right and wrong to always be on his friends side. | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
On December 18 2009 23:15 groro wrote: thats a good attitude aslong as you dont bow down the rights of others or what is usually right and wrong in your mind in favor of your friends or beloved ones. for example you go to korea in a team and one kid got a problem with you and everybody things yeah he is my korean fellow and long term friend, so when he got a problem with this new foreign kid then i got one too. in this case you couldnt praise this lets say corrupted version of always there for my friends. but i am talking generally and not because of this discussion that happend here. just wanted to add that there can also be a darkside of that and that imo nobody should sacrifice parts of his own convictions of what is right and wrong to always be on his friends side. Agree'd | ||
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groro
67 Posts
nice because via internet i am never absolute sure if it might sound hiddenly offensive or reproachfully. especially when u must look after a few words in a online dic. ^^ | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
On December 18 2009 23:50 groro wrote: nice because via internet i am never absolute sure if it might sound hiddenly offensive or reproachfully. especially when u must look after a few words in a online dic. ^^ You said it well and I whole heartily agree with you bro. Nicely done sir. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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Fallout
Sweden54 Posts
On December 18 2009 17:31 IdrA wrote: cloud and g5 are very good, naugrim and morrow are mediocre. kolll obviously did well at wcg, but since then he lost to koget and morrow. that definitely raises questions. whats stupid is you trying to judge the skill of players when you dont know anything. LOL! If kolll is questionable cuz he lost to morrow..doesnt that make you questionable losing to kolll? I think you talk to much and play to little. | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
On December 19 2009 01:13 Fallout wrote: LOL! If kolll is questionable cuz he lost to morrow..doesnt that make you questionable losing to kolll? I think you talk to much and play to little. Questionable in terms of consistency. If every one were to use your logic, I could theoretically state I have beaten A+ players before, for I am quite sure I have beaten a player, who has beaten a better player, who has beaten a better player etc., but that doesn't make me as good or better than any of them. | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
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Fallout
Sweden54 Posts
On December 19 2009 02:33 Salv wrote: Questionable in terms of consistency. If every one were to use your logic, I could theoretically state I have beaten A+ players before, for I am quite sure I have beaten a player, who has beaten a better player, who has beaten a better player etc., but that doesn't make me as good or better than any of them. If u missed the irony, it wasn't my purpose to make any good logic. And what I can see there never was any talk about consistency in the first place. My point is that you should prove how good player you are by beating others in the game.. not by talking bs about other players. | ||
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GosI[Terran]1
Mexico65 Posts
idra wasnt playing good those games since i saw from his screen u can tell that by the 2nd game on desti he wasnt playing good so anyone can lose to anyone but definitaly koll is actually getting overhyped so just dropitoff morrow ur really arent that good and you talking like if u know everything | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On December 18 2009 20:59 G5 wrote: Alright ima edit this and be nice. MorroW, my first post was to try and get you to stop posting so much shit about people. Yes I failed because I was too harsh. I appoligize. After your next post I realized you were posting rude shit to people because you feel disrespected, so I tried to give you some insight to my thoughts / past experiences regarding the matter on taking shit to personally / getting over defensive. Didn't work, possibly my fault on how I approached it in that post or the post before it, either way it obviously didn't take. Either way, as I said, I have nothing personal against you, you have never been bm / rude to me, So yeah, maybe I shouldn't have called you out. I did it because I see it destroying not only your rep (which you obviously care about) but also because the majority of the people you are calling out are my friends of many years whom I have met many times and plan on being friends with for hopefully the rest of my life and I care about them deeply and would physically fight for (yup, thats who I am). I will stop now and just say that I have no hard feelings vs you. I used to be defensive like you vs everyone (still am... rarely though) and I just want you to know that nothing good comes out of it... EVER. Best of luck to you in the tournamnt and in your life. I mean that. + Show Spoiler + God I love your humor / personality iNc rofl. No offense MorroW, Geoff is just my boy. <3 Those were some kind words, just gotta say that this was one mature guy talking. good one there g5. | ||
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Captain Mayhem
Sweden774 Posts
On December 19 2009 04:43 GosI[Terran] wrote: Honestly Morrow u are getting famous for nothing ur not even decent at all matchups its ridicolous how u talk like u actually know whats going on when u got 0 idea of ppl skill since u cheese every single game while greg and g5 actually have a point in their posts cuz they know alot more than u about all this stuff and seriously stop with kolll overhype he isnt that good he just got luck in wcg idra wasnt playing good those games since i saw from his screen u can tell that by the 2nd game on desti he wasnt playing good so anyone can lose to anyone but definitaly koll is actually getting overhyped so just dropitoff morrow ur really arent that good and you talking like if u know everything Whoops | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
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Fallout
Sweden54 Posts
On December 19 2009 04:43 GosI[Terran] wrote: Honestly Morrow u are getting famous for nothing ur not even decent at all matchups its ridicolous how u talk like u actually know whats going on when u got 0 idea of ppl skill since u cheese every single game while greg and g5 actually have a point in their posts cuz they know alot more than u about all this stuff and seriously stop with kolll overhype he isnt that good he just got luck in wcg idra wasnt playing good those games since i saw from his screen u can tell that by the 2nd game on desti he wasnt playing good so anyone can lose to anyone but definitaly koll is actually getting overhyped so just dropitoff morrow ur really arent that good and you talking like if u know everything Have you checked the replays or are u just to busy with Idra's balls in your mouth? | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On December 19 2009 06:47 Fallout wrote: Have you checked the replays or are u just to busy with Idra's balls in your mouth? oehm, you know that he is one of the best foreign terrans, right? | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On December 19 2009 06:47 Fallout wrote: Have you checked the replays or are u just to busy with Idra's balls in your mouth? he was at WCG as a player you moron? | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On December 19 2009 12:25 Trezeguet23 wrote: Does anyone think that Idra will be playing in the ro28? It seems like while everyone likes and respects Nony, I don't know if anyone has had a prediction including Idra in playing qualifier 1. IdrA plays daily for 8+ hours training with some of the best players available. NonY has been inactive for a while now and is, while wholeheartedly practicing for this, out of shape by many miles and not in his best shape. NonY is also not a player who is likely to cheese IdrA a few times in a row. It's a Best of 5. | ||
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betaben
681 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 19 2009 22:43 betaben wrote: I don't really understand why nony gets to fight the ladder leader. It has to be bad for one of them - either you think nony gets a free ride and he gets to see all idras replays, or you think that idra gets far more practice; but surely, getting to the number one on the ladder and being third in the last TSL should be rewarded with easy placements in the groups, or at least random ones; why is their reward to get put into a difficult knockout contest? .... He plays ladder #1 then if he loses he plays R3 of the easiest group ( A ) | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
why cant people read and ask the same question 4 million times. aaarg | ||
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
On December 19 2009 22:43 betaben wrote: I don't really understand why nony gets to fight the ladder leader. It has to be bad for one of them - either you think nony gets a free ride and he gets to see all idras replays, or you think that idra gets far more practice; but surely, getting to the number one on the ladder and being third in the last TSL should be rewarded with easy placements in the groups, or at least random ones; why is their reward to get put into a difficult knockout contest? Nony didn't get 3rd in the last TSL. And as people have said your question has been addressed so I'll let you search for the answer. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On December 19 2009 12:43 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: IdrA plays daily for 8+ hours training with some of the best players available. NonY has been inactive for a while now and is, while wholeheartedly practicing for this, out of shape by many miles and not in his best shape. NonY is also not a player who is likely to cheese IdrA a few times in a row. It's a Best of 5. So I guess I was hoping that someone would throw out some thoughts on how Nony can win... | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On December 20 2009 02:42 ret wrote: I think nony would have a good chance if IdrA hadn't improved so much since he lost to NonY at WCG usa last year. 8-9 months of inactivity isn't as difficult to overcome as people make it out to be. Generally no. But the fact that he's been inactive for 8-9 months combined with the fact that IdrA has been improving almost exponentially is what I think is going to win the match for IdrA. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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iuppy
Romania31 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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Louder
United States2276 Posts
On December 20 2009 02:42 ret wrote: I think nony would have a good chance if IdrA hadn't improved so much since he lost to NonY at WCG usa last year. 8-9 months of inactivity isn't as difficult to overcome as people make it out to be. You also have to consider the way Nony trained and how much he trained. His lack of skill when inactive is pretty legendary. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 21 2009 06:41 MorroW[MB] wrote: lol i remember troy, dont think i won a single tvp on it :D when proxy bbs into 2 port wraith is the best bet tvp something is definitely wrong | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
On December 21 2009 06:52 Louder wrote: You also have to consider the way Nony trained and how much he trained. His lack of skill when inactive is pretty legendary. Mainly cause Nony is relaying on mechanics pretty much, though | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On December 21 2009 18:31 3clipse wrote: Damnit Dreiven, leave your BBQ and get your TSL info in. He did, maybe that news was in the other thread... | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Especially his ZvP and ZvT.. so deadly.. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7881 Posts
On December 21 2009 10:57 IdrA wrote: when proxy bbs into 2 port wraith is the best bet tvp something is definitely wrong At least that's more entertaining that some super pro practicing 23 hours a day for two years and nerd raging while losing again and again to amateur players who don't play completely perfectly standart (sorry, who "do stupid things".) Jesus! I don't know how good Morrow is, but his playing is entertaining. And his reaction is understandable. Just watch the reps about incontrol and make yourself an idea about who is a dick in the whole thing. Now, being n°2 or n°10 on this ladder doesn't change shit so maybe some people should relax a little a bit about his playstyle and stop raging when he wins by cheesing. Plus, cheese is a great part of that game. Boxer vs Yellow is one of the most famous and funny bo5 in history. Hope Morrow qualifies, and if he doesn't, it doesn't matter. As all this is a fucking game. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
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G5
United States2898 Posts
On December 26 2009 10:39 IdrA wrote: learn to read real useful talent toi have + Show Spoiler + <3 Greg lolz | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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mIsUZu
New Zealand528 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
Group A: Idra Group B: rooting for Kolll think he has a decent shot, but likely Morrow will take it. Group C: kinda up in the air about this one, but ill throw Castro in there. Group D: Kabal Group E: Killer! Group F: Ret Group G: rooting for Dreiven Group H: Tarson Group I: XiaOzI Group J: rooting for Incontrol, and I think he can take the group. Group K: rooting for Marwin Group L: GoslTerran Lets see how I do! | ||
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