• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:58
CET 22:58
KST 06:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soulkey's decision to leave C9 How much money terran looses from gas steal?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B 2026 Changsha Offline Cup
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Darkest Dungeon Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1647 users

F91 Out of TSL

Forum Index > TSL2 Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 00:42:42
December 12 2009 00:36 GMT
#1
I have some bad news to share. After speaking with TSL admins who informed me of suspicious games on F91's match list, I spoke with F91 and he has admitted to me that he cheated by asking a friend to give him free wins (the six games after he played TSL-CastrO). I am extremely disappointed that this happened and very sad that one of Duskbin's players cheated in this way. It goes without saying that this sort of behavior cannot be tolerated.

Some of you may wonder why he abused when he was already so high in the ladder and virtually guaranteed a Top 48 spot. F91 needed to qualify for the Top 12 in order for his flight scheduling to work out.

Here is a statement from F91:

I haven't been able to play in the TSL ladder due to the G-League in China. Because of this, I dropped out of the Top 12 and was forced to play with bad equipment in an internet café at 4am before the G-League finals the next day. It was very difficult finding TSL players who would play me, and when I finally played Castro and lost, I was very frustrated and discouraged, so I made a very wrong move to get free wins off my Chinese friend. I am extremely sorry for doing this and will take full responsibility for my actions. I will stop competing in TSL immediately, and I hope someday I can be forgiven for this.


Of course, no circumstances can excuse what happened. DuskBin E-Sports does not tolerate cheating and can no longer support F91 in the TSL. I would also like to apologize again on behalf of Duskbin and F91 for the problems he has caused, especially to those fans who have been rooting for him since day one. It is indeed sad that it has to end in this way.

Nevertheless, we would still like to thank the TeamLiquid Admins for coming up with such an awesome league. I hope other TSL players will take this as a lesson, and we can have a clean and reputable tournament going forward.

Thank you,
Duskbin.Ash
AwarE--
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States70 Posts
December 12 2009 00:37 GMT
#2
Sorry to hear, seemed obvious from the matchlist however.

Good manner Duskbin. Did the right thing.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 00:43:00
December 12 2009 00:38 GMT
#3
wow... ESPORTS!!!

EDIT: Thinking about it more, I wonder why he felt like he needed to cheat? I can see the situation: Its 4 in the morning, playing with crappy equipment and getting dodged all the time but all he needed was a couple of good games to be back at the top. He just needed a bit more Patience
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 00:41:30
December 12 2009 00:39 GMT
#4
T________T

Ash you are a good guy appreciate all the hours (days even) we have spent discussing everything about the Chinese participation to TSL. It is clear your heart is in the right place and there are very few people on the planet that have as much dedication to e-sports as you. I'm sad this had to happen to you, and also sad that F91 resorted to this. This post was definitely the right thing to do. Thanks for that.
Administrator
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
December 12 2009 00:39 GMT
#5
oh well I will still cheer for you f91
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 00:41:46
December 12 2009 00:40 GMT
#6
Nooo
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
December 12 2009 00:41 GMT
#7
This sucks i was really looking forward to watching F91 play. At least he was honest about it but i agree that there should be zero tolerance for shit like this
Better than Pokebunny
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
December 12 2009 00:42 GMT
#8
f91..
I'm dissapoint.. TT
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 12 2009 00:43 GMT
#9
Ash that was a very good post. F91 is a good guy and an amazing gamer. He shouldn't have cheated (as he said) and the punishment fits the crime.

Wish I coulda seen F91 vs IdrA again though
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
December 12 2009 00:43 GMT
#10
I feel bad for Ash, but not for F91. Maybe Sen will get the glory back to DuskBin

I am not good with quotes
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 12 2009 00:44 GMT
#11
On December 12 2009 09:41 Foreplay wrote:
This sucks i was really looking forward to watching F91 play. At least he was honest about it but i agree that there should be zero tolerance for shit like this


qft. At least he didn't make drama about it. I feel bad for him almost.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
December 12 2009 00:46 GMT
#12
That sucks ass...
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 12 2009 00:46 GMT
#13
=[

shucks.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
December 12 2009 00:46 GMT
#14
Very disappointing to not have F91 in the TSL.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-12 00:48:59
December 12 2009 00:47 GMT
#15
Its a shame and rather silly to even try to cheat in something like this. With thousands of people f5ing the ladder standings every few hours. Cheating in the top 100 going to get spoted pretty fast. I guess I understand his reasons for trying it, but its still disapointing to see a good player knocked out like this. Worst thing is there 24 hours left in the ladder. He likely could have made top 12 without having to cheat.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
AstraBoy
Profile Joined August 2006
Peru363 Posts
December 12 2009 00:47 GMT
#16
There are some players, into the top 48, that did the same thing as F91, but im pretty sure that they will continue playing the league, like if nothing hav happened.

Anyways, good decition to leave after this, GL
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
December 12 2009 00:47 GMT
#17
Dunno why people think no-one will notice :/

Anyway F91 is still cool. If he had such a huge problem with people dodging wasn't that grounds to be allowed to smurf?
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 12 2009 00:48 GMT
#18
fuck that sucks
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
December 12 2009 00:50 GMT
#19
Sad that this happened.

Good that F91 admitted straight.

As someone said above me, the punishment fits the crime.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 12 2009 00:51 GMT
#20
ironic that he got caught because he's so popular.
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
18:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #18
SteadfastSC167
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Liquid`TLO 295
SteadfastSC 167
UpATreeSC 117
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 10046
Backho 62
soO 22
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0183
Other Games
summit1g6884
tarik_tv3963
Grubby2605
shahzam383
mouzStarbuck368
ViBE19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1852
BasetradeTV71
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta11
• Reevou 3
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 33
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2928
• WagamamaTV856
• lizZardDota283
League of Legends
• Doublelift2194
• TFBlade629
Other Games
• imaqtpie756
• Scarra701
• Shiphtur76
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 2m
WardiTV Team League
14h 2m
Big Brain Bouts
19h 2m
Fjant vs SortOf
YoungYakov vs Krystianer
Reynor vs HeRoMaRinE
RSL Revival
1d 12h
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
1d 14h
Platinum Heroes Events
1d 17h
BSL
1d 22h
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
2 days
BSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-25
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.