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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
December 05 2009 22:28 GMT
#1441
I guess the latter. When I played him about a month and half ago he was terrible.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 05 2009 22:35 GMT
#1442
Praetor is again in 8th place. Wow that's just awesome.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Sauron
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania169 Posts
December 05 2009 22:37 GMT
#1443
I can't believe TSL admins are letting A- people play D/C players.Yeah i know if they lose one game they lose a ton of points, but I still believe this is wrong. Some of them are even bragging about it."facepalm" Imo there should have been a rule to control this. It's just ridiculous. Skill should be encouraged, not mass newb bashing to get absurd ranks. This is becoming something like "who has the most time to abuse harder" ladder. For me it feels this TSL is more about quantity than quality. Kwark 9300pts, Morrow A ranked...yeah right.
Soothsayer
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 22:49:29
December 05 2009 22:43 GMT
#1444
i practiced really hard this season against tons of koreans

my smurf acc was bearythebear//noobwithnolife//akevke.. now all is transfered to ex-v1o)morrow

however i think most ppl dont relise how much u can improve by playing iccup, just take kolll for example. he came out of nowhere and recently he has significantly improved and is arguable better than most mediocre to dedicated competitive starcraft gamers

i dont maphack, i do cheese but in these series with these gamers i cant get away with cheese all games. just get over it guys and leave semih alone also, just cause someone is doing better than expected doesnt mean they are cheating... its ridiculous i even have to say this but these D gamers are just lol games that i played for fun, im not so desperate that i have to play these D gamers as u can maybe see urself if u check beyond the judgemental eyes of hatred xd
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
December 05 2009 22:47 GMT
#1445
On December 06 2009 07:43 MorroW[MB] wrote:
however i think most ppl dont relise how much u can improve by playing iccup, just take kolll for example. he came out of nowhere and recently he bashed idra


rofl why does idras name always randomly pop out of nowhere
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28795 Posts
December 05 2009 23:01 GMT
#1446
On December 06 2009 07:37 Sauron wrote:
I can't believe TSL admins are letting A- people play D/C players.Yeah i know if they lose one game they lose a ton of points, but I still believe this is wrong. Some of them are even bragging about it."facepalm" Imo there should have been a rule to control this. It's just ridiculous. Skill should be encouraged, not mass newb bashing to get absurd ranks. This is becoming something like "who has the most time to abuse harder" ladder. For me it feels this TSL is more about quantity than quality. Kwark 9300pts, Morrow A ranked...yeah right.


it's ridiculous but we can't suddenly start implementing rules to combat this stuff mid-ladder.
Moderator
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 23:05:11
December 05 2009 23:02 GMT
#1447
Since nobody is willing to make a calculating program that would tell us the race and country distribution, i have counted it manually.

I have put it in a simple text. Here is how i did it: X(y,z,w)
X - top 100 y - top 12 z - top 24 w - top 48

Here are the standings as of 05-12-09 23:00 CET :

RACE

Zerg 50 (7, 12, 26) --- Terran 18 (3, 5, 10) --- Protoss 29 (2, 7, 11)

Dominance anyone?


COUNTRY

US 12 (1, 2, 7)* ---- DE 8 (1, 2, 3) ---- SE 7 (1, 2, 3) ---- RU 5 (0, 0, 2)

PL 18 (1, 4, 5) ---- UA 6 (2, 3, 4) ---- CA 6 (0, 1, 3) ---- PE 5 (0, 1, 2)

If you want to put other countries in the list, feel free to do it.

* add "1" if you include IdrA

Ukraine and USA seems to have the best players judging by their appearance in the first half of top 100. Poland has the mass on its side and only a step behind in the top cream players. Germany and Sweden are right after those three. Canada in a medicore shape. Russia, imo, has somewhat poor lineup here, the same as Peru. Lets hope these two will improve and get up the ranks!
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
December 05 2009 23:07 GMT
#1448
On December 06 2009 07:47 iamtt1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 07:43 MorroW[MB] wrote:
however i think most ppl dont relise how much u can improve by playing iccup, just take kolll for example. he came out of nowhere and recently he bashed idra


rofl why does idras name always randomly pop out of nowhere

define random...
besides, i think there might be an additional link.
let's try this psychological game : fill in the blank
"I would like to bash ______'s head in."
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 23:13:07
December 05 2009 23:11 GMT
#1449
The last few pages are pretty entertaining, except for the occasional cheating accusations (Semih getting someone to smurf for him / Morrow maphacking), those are rather sad.
Oh well, people get rude when there's money on the line:-p

edit:i just saw Morrow complaining about the same, I didnt mean to appear I'm just backing him up on that.
BW fighting!
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 23:52:52
December 05 2009 23:44 GMT
#1450
On December 06 2009 08:07 wadadde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 07:47 iamtt1 wrote:
On December 06 2009 07:43 MorroW[MB] wrote:
however i think most ppl dont relise how much u can improve by playing iccup, just take kolll for example. he came out of nowhere and recently he bashed idra


rofl why does idras name always randomly pop out of nowhere

define random...
besides, i think there might be an additional link.
let's try this psychological game : fill in the blank
"I would like to bash ______'s head in."


by random i mean
"the first of dostoevsky's realism, deals with dostoevsky's artistic methods and style, also duality does not refer so much to the doubleness of some of the characters, as to contrasts, antitheses, and conflicts"
"yea bro i agree idra is such a fkin newb i hate him"

and id love to bash dostoevsky's head in.. he makes everything so complicated t_t
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 05 2009 23:58 GMT
#1451
I want to see the first game of Morrow's 3:0 of Haypro, he won with 25k fewer pts (like 80k to 55k)
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
December 05 2009 23:59 GMT
#1452
On December 06 2009 08:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 07:37 Sauron wrote:
I can't believe TSL admins are letting A- people play D/C players.Yeah i know if they lose one game they lose a ton of points, but I still believe this is wrong. Some of them are even bragging about it."facepalm" Imo there should have been a rule to control this. It's just ridiculous. Skill should be encouraged, not mass newb bashing to get absurd ranks. This is becoming something like "who has the most time to abuse harder" ladder. For me it feels this TSL is more about quantity than quality. Kwark 9300pts, Morrow A ranked...yeah right.


it's ridiculous but we can't suddenly start implementing rules to combat this stuff mid-ladder.


thing is that unless they, the ones who are playing D-players, cheese their way trough the entire tournament it's just gonna come back and bite them in the ass. also for 10k USD hell I'd play bnet players 24/7
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28795 Posts
December 06 2009 00:01 GMT
#1453
On December 06 2009 08:58 Ganfei wrote:
I want to see the first game of Morrow's 3:0 of Haypro, he won with 25k fewer pts (like 80k to 55k)


this is just because haypro killed a bunch of temples.
Moderator
Fallout
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden54 Posts
December 06 2009 00:27 GMT
#1454
It's so sad to see the top players (Idra) complaining about other foreiners style or when they think someone is only cheesing, or becouse they are playing lower rank they are like cheating. Sorry but i lost all respect to you. I don't see white-ra complayning, becouse he's good enough to handle it anyway. You got allin-players in all sports and it's part of the game. I dont say that it is beautiful to watch, hell, if i could choose i would have five Messi's and five C. Ronaldos in my soccer team! But it doesn't work like that. So cut the crap and quit complaining like a sissy. Most of us is here for the fun. Let's keep it that way.
This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
December 06 2009 00:31 GMT
#1455
On December 06 2009 09:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 08:58 Ganfei wrote:
I want to see the first game of Morrow's 3:0 of Haypro, he won with 25k fewer pts (like 80k to 55k)


this is just because haypro killed a bunch of temples.


ohhhhh
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
December 06 2009 00:33 GMT
#1456
So many posters getting trolled by IdrA lol
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 01:14:11
December 06 2009 00:59 GMT
#1457
pooooooousssy
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 06 2009 01:04 GMT
#1458
Indeed you have to be mature to not make rage posts after being owned by ultras, 5 pool or Dts, skill doesn't matter :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 06 2009 01:12 GMT
#1459
On December 06 2009 07:43 MorroW[MB] wrote:
i practiced really hard this season against tons of koreans

my smurf acc was bearythebear//noobwithnolife//akevke.. now all is transfered to ex-v1o)morrow

however i think most ppl dont relise how much u can improve by playing iccup, just take kolll for example. he came out of nowhere and recently he has significantly improved and is arguable better than most mediocre to dedicated competitive starcraft gamers

i dont maphack, i do cheese but in these series with these gamers i cant get away with cheese all games. just get over it guys and leave semih alone also, just cause someone is doing better than expected doesnt mean they are cheating... its ridiculous i even have to say this but these D gamers are just lol games that i played for fun, im not so desperate that i have to play these D gamers as u can maybe see urself if u check beyond the judgemental eyes of hatred xd

lol you are bearythebear
You are really improving every season I must say, tho I don`t approve of your bashing of D players
God Hates a Coward
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 01:27:01
December 06 2009 01:17 GMT
#1460
On December 06 2009 07:27 ilbh wrote:
Morrow got a lot of good wins like 3:0 against squall, haypro, and 1:0'ed a lot of good players

is he really that good or he is doing allins, cheese, map-hacking?


morrow's rank is certainly not out of his reach, he has a good handle on executing all-ins in tvp and tvt tvz

he has to be a little selective to take advantage of that but he can certainly get his current rank reliably by focusing on tvt tvz and tvp all-ins
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
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