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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 05 2009 15:09 GMT
#1401
On December 05 2009 21:22 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 20:18 True_Spike wrote:
All the dodgers will just take a spot away from someone who *really* deserves it while acomplishing absolutely nothing, because they won't stand a chance in the playoffs. Seems pointless to me.


If someone who *really* deserves it can't be bothered to play enough to get into the top 48 then do they *really* deserve it? And if they're good enough, they wont have to dodge ie. Ret, IdrA, White-ra.


I think F91 is probably the only person who may be affected by all the dodging. Because he has to make top 12, and there may be enough fluky players who overtake him through sheer mass gaming and heavy dodging at the end. Otherwise, I agree that it doesn't really matter too much. Other than making it seem like the foreigner scene is stronger than it actually is.
Meh
ssystem
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom337 Posts
December 05 2009 15:16 GMT
#1402
F91 is too busy smashing A- koreans to be affected by all the dodging
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 05 2009 15:28 GMT
#1403
Praetor 2-0ed Strelok. :D gg
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
December 05 2009 15:36 GMT
#1404
On December 06 2009 00:07 Sc2ggRise wrote:
I think idra should make a smurf, hang out in the D rank channels and lay in wait

-320 pts T_T

lol
GO ROMANIANS!
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 05 2009 15:37 GMT
#1405
On December 05 2009 23:58 koziol wrote:
lol, how can GoOdy be so high, he is so bad its hard to belive really, I cant see him winning ANY game in actual TSL, or well in qualifications..




Goody is not so bad its hard to believe really..

He's nothing special but he's quite good and has a unique gaming style..
hatred outlives the hateful
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 05 2009 16:03 GMT
#1406
ahh had a good laugh off the last 5 or so pages, keep it up guys! :p
top3 are terrans now, 2 protosses also at top10!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
December 05 2009 16:11 GMT
#1407
Holy shit, so many got A- already.

The most interesting part of laddering is the competition in the last day/hour/min. I am really looking forward to that
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 16:33:54
December 05 2009 16:32 GMT
#1408
On December 06 2009 01:11 economist_ wrote:
Holy shit, so many got A- already.

The most interesting part of laddering is the competition in the last day/hour/min. I am really looking forward to that

mass abuse :/
I'm sure there will be more problems than last time ( 3DQ ? )
It is so easy to play a couple of games with a friend to get few extras points.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
December 05 2009 16:43 GMT
#1409
[image loading]

Poll: Will idra make it to A+ ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

And also, if he gets to A+, will he be the first foreigner?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 16:58:56
December 05 2009 16:51 GMT
#1410
On December 06 2009 01:43 Adeny wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Poll: Will idra make it to A+ ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


And also, if he gets to A+, will he be the first foreigner?

If Idra got to A+ it would be by playing a lot of foreigners.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
ftb
Profile Joined October 2009
49 Posts
December 05 2009 16:58 GMT
#1411
On December 05 2009 23:11 TS-Rupbar wrote:
ToT)aCe(

EDIT: German zerg (I think) who's been good for a very long time and got very good about 1 year ago (?). I think he just left ToT) because he felt he performed poorly in clan wars and loss of motivation.

EDIT2: NVM, that was Gan But he's still a German zerg.


Actually this description fits quite well. Ace was pretty good lately, especially in the EMS, he 2-0 White-Ra the other day.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 17:00:56
December 05 2009 17:00 GMT
#1412
Idra won't make it to A+ because he has a negative win record vs A koreans.
But his matchlist vs A- kors and foreigners is quite impressive.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 17:01:09
December 05 2009 17:00 GMT
#1413
Well Octzerg's always been a heavy ZvZ player for his high ranks. Same for that NrT.Flaf guy. Same for Ptak. I remember Octzerg and Ptak getting a lot of shit back in PGT days for getting A+ with like 80% ZvZ games. Same thing is happening now. There's nothing wrong with it, they just happen to have a very strong ZvZ instead of ZvP, or ZvT. It's not like it's super cheesy, Octzerg is still winning ZvZ's vs very good players. It just means that in ZvT or ZvP he's weaker. That's how the rankings work, maybe you have an A+ ZvZ and a B+ ZvT but it still is going to average out to at least an A-. Very few people are "A-" in the sense that they are equally good at all matchups. You are better at one, worse at another, and it evens out.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 05 2009 17:12 GMT
#1414
On December 06 2009 01:43 Adeny wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Will idra make it to A+ ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

And also, if he gets to A+, will he be the first foreigner?


A lot of foreigners reached A+ in the earlier seasons of ICC before the kor progamers started playing, however, since a lot of progamers and kor amateurs started playing(around season 7-8 and above) no foreigner has managed to reach A+. I dont think Idra hit it this season and the one before it either, its too hard and too competitive.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
ftb
Profile Joined October 2009
49 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 17:21:33
December 05 2009 17:21 GMT
#1415
On December 06 2009 02:12 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 01:43 Adeny wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Will idra make it to A+ ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

And also, if he gets to A+, will he be the first foreigner?


A lot of foreigners reached A+ in the earlier seasons of ICC before the kor progamers started playing, however, since a lot of progamers and kor amateurs started playing(around season 7-8 and above) no foreigner has managed to reach A+. I dont think Idra hit it this season and the one before it either, its too hard and too competitive.


What about this sexydog guy who is #1 on foreigner Ladder right now?
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 05 2009 17:21 GMT
#1416
nah Idra will 100% make A+ if he tries hard, he's already 11500, that's 4 more wins in a row to get A+
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 17:26:38
December 05 2009 17:26 GMT
#1417
It's fun how some of the people playing the ladder are actually proud of dodging and playing all in every game.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 05 2009 17:40 GMT
#1418
Morrow: I´d love to get the chance to play against you! C- Zerg (Tsl-Skeggaba) , its an insta-win and oyu get more point than bashing D dudes.
Msg!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
December 05 2009 17:43 GMT
#1419
On December 06 2009 02:21 ftb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 02:12 samachking wrote:
On December 06 2009 01:43 Adeny wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Will idra make it to A+ ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

And also, if he gets to A+, will he be the first foreigner?


A lot of foreigners reached A+ in the earlier seasons of ICC before the kor progamers started playing, however, since a lot of progamers and kor amateurs started playing(around season 7-8 and above) no foreigner has managed to reach A+. I dont think Idra hit it this season and the one before it either, its too hard and too competitive.


What about this sexydog guy who is #1 on foreigner Ladder right now?


Probably korean with different flag...
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 05 2009 17:45 GMT
#1420
On December 06 2009 02:21 ftb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 02:12 samachking wrote:
On December 06 2009 01:43 Adeny wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Will idra make it to A+ ?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

And also, if he gets to A+, will he be the first foreigner?


A lot of foreigners reached A+ in the earlier seasons of ICC before the kor progamers started playing, however, since a lot of progamers and kor amateurs started playing(around season 7-8 and above) no foreigner has managed to reach A+. I dont think Idra hit it this season and the one before it either, its too hard and too competitive.


What about this sexydog guy who is #1 on foreigner Ladder right now?


kor student most likely
There are a lot of aussie kor players who have high ranks, the best player in australia is legionnaire and he is probably High B+/maybe A-
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
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