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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10881 Posts
December 02 2009 08:40 GMT
#1021
On December 02 2009 16:26 ThunderGod wrote:
Anyone else notice that apart from Idra top eight are ALL Zerg?


L.I.N.G.R.U.N.B.Y.E.

Well, that actually would be hilarious
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 02 2009 08:52 GMT
#1022
Actually I dont get the fuss about kwark..

Im sure, that IF everyone of the '' skilled / gosu / good '' gamers tries as hard as he can then people like Kwark who are picking games and heavily relaying on winning vs teammates, weaker opponents in an almost strange and suspicious fashion will not make the top 48 anyways..

Im pretty sure that to the end of the ladder with 3-4 days remaining all qualification spots will be A- anyway..

And I doubt u can blame kwark if he's 48 and you are 49. All you had to do was play more games and get more points. It doesnt matter how u did it. And if u won 15 games vs B-...

Its gettind ridicolous when people get blamed and attacked for whom they play..
Im aware of the fact that kwark is definetely pushing it to the limits and his play vs the same person seems to know no boundaries..

hatred outlives the hateful
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 09:00:17
December 02 2009 08:59 GMT
#1023
[image loading]

Poll: Main reason this year's ladder points higher than last year
(Vote): Foreigners are stronger
(Vote): Koreans are weaker
(Vote): TSL Prize Pool is larger
(Vote): More players on ICCup
(Vote): Variance

Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3357 Posts
December 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#1024
I think more cause it's closer to the end of the season then last tsl whiched had the ladder qualification at the start of the new season it 1week into the new season
김택용 Fighting!
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
December 02 2009 10:30 GMT
#1025
lol at haters. go kwark!
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 02 2009 11:12 GMT
#1026
This mamon kid has got over 400 games ... WOW !
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
December 02 2009 11:18 GMT
#1027
On December 02 2009 17:52 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
And I doubt u can blame kwark if he's 48 and you are 49. All you had to do was play more games and get more points. It doesnt matter how u did it. And if u won 15 games vs B-...


Uhh.. 47 and 48 aren't just gonna give up their spot. They're going to keep on playing cause they're well aware how close 49 is. And 50 isn't just gonna disappear either, he's playing games too.

It felt like gravity.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 02 2009 11:28 GMT
#1028
On November 30 2009 08:10 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2009 02:58 tree.hugger wrote:
Terran has fallen to #34 and (P)(lt)Kr has fallen all the way down to #50...

+ Show Spoiler +
TSL-Kr has a game against [Pan]CastrO... that can't count can it?


Also, our two last missing foreigners are on the list. Advokate is in the 60's and Kolll has an acount made...


Well according to the rules CaStrO should be punished for that.

Don't know if he misunderstood that rule. He hasn't played any games like 5 days on TSL account though (assuming he just played to A- and now lets it be there).


Quoting againt this one. So what happens on this matter?
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9042 Posts
December 02 2009 11:43 GMT
#1029
Who is RiboRibo?
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 02 2009 11:57 GMT
#1030
I think its not that much about the fact that a person does it but what intentions the person has and what stage and for what reason its done..

Otherwise the rules would be kinda stupid ..
hatred outlives the hateful
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
December 02 2009 12:01 GMT
#1031
top 8 7 zergs,thats just crazy.....
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 02 2009 12:25 GMT
#1032
Hopefully some of these people can dethrone Idra from the top. They're getting pretty close
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
December 02 2009 12:28 GMT
#1033
On December 02 2009 20:43 Garnet wrote:
Who is RiboRibo?


iS-SouthPark
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
December 02 2009 13:09 GMT
#1034
7 zergs and strelok behind IdrA... i guess it will be even better for IdrA if this many zerg qualify, not sure about the tournament, i´m not really a big fan of ZvZ...
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 02 2009 13:12 GMT
#1035
I love all of you Zergs out there, anything but another PvP final!
We make signature, then defense it.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 02 2009 13:13 GMT
#1036
On December 02 2009 20:12 Skeggaba wrote:
This mamon kid has got over 400 games ... WOW !


thats coz he ling all-in every game vs terran, I can just imagine what he does in the other mu's :O
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
December 02 2009 13:30 GMT
#1037
[image loading]

Seriously, so much zerg domination.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43968 Posts
December 02 2009 13:50 GMT
#1038
More players on iccup and very late season are pushing the ranks up compared to last time.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 16:09:00
December 02 2009 14:01 GMT
#1039
On December 02 2009 17:59 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Main reason this year's ladder points higher than last year
(Vote): Foreigners are stronger
(Vote): Koreans are weaker
(Vote): TSL Prize Pool is larger
(Vote): More players on ICCup
(Vote): Variance



In my opinion, very weak poll. There are three factors in play here:

- it's fucking TSL: the most established foreigner tournament
- the prize pool is larger: adds more incentive to play again. TY PokerStrategy.com
- a lot of mediocre players in the past (I could name names, but I rather not; okay maybe just one! What in the world G5!?!?! GOOD JOB) picked up the slack (its about time) and showed noticeable improvement.

There you go. The three factors.

Magic~Phil said all that's need to be said on this KwarK issue. Leave the guy fucking alone and just play.

On December 02 2009 22:12 grobo wrote:
I love all of you Zergs out there, anything but another PvP final!


I find ZvZ way more boring as there is little to no variance at all. I think it would really suck if it comes down to another mirror match, but for some reason I doubt that will happen.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 14:19:53
December 02 2009 14:18 GMT
#1040
lol the way this is going on you would say Kwark is the only one doing stuff like this, I have been sitting in ladder A-B for the last week with my shiny B- account (on which I don't play on because im bad and would lose it), and every day I get messaged 10 times by 20 different TSL players on B-/B that know I cant beat them because we've either played before or they just know i'm a no name scrub, so yeah everyone and their mother is trying to get points from weaker players, so
what. When someone sees my B- and some other B- that looks korean and has 10 losses, who do you think everyone is gonna go for in a ladder stage like this ?
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
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