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SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
December 13 2009 01:09 GMT
#3121
Fight till the end
I Can Fly...
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:10:47
December 13 2009 01:10 GMT
#3122
On December 13 2009 10:02 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:01 jtan wrote:
morrow taken down by shauni haha


Too bad for Morrow but this way we might see another sweden in the playoffs.

I don't care much for the fact that he's swedish but I'm starting to like his attitude. When people are agreeing he's actually too bad to be in top 12 he doesn't stop playing but instead goes for the first place. I like that.
Enter a Uh
StimD
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Norway738 Posts
December 13 2009 01:11 GMT
#3123
advokate???
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
December 13 2009 01:13 GMT
#3124
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?


I'm more curious about how admins will solve the rule-breaking. Can effect many players, for example http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/matchlist/874043/1x1.html
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 13 2009 01:14 GMT
#3125
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?

I completely agree with you, but I accidentally quoted only the rule's example, and not the rule itself. The actual rule is this:


2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period


The way this is worded sounds dangerously similar to #2. It would be completely nonsensical to have it that way, but I hope the admins clarify the situation.
Torlak
Profile Joined August 2007
Macedonia74 Posts
December 13 2009 01:14 GMT
#3126
On December 13 2009 10:11 StimD wrote:
advokate???

banned for cheating. Go Go OctZerg! A couple of wins more.
I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
December 13 2009 01:15 GMT
#3127
Wow last time i saw kolll he was not even 60 now hes way up there gj.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
December 13 2009 01:15 GMT
#3128
On December 13 2009 10:13 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?


I'm more curious about how admins will solve the rule-breaking. Can effect many players, for example http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/matchlist/874043/1x1.html


page one looks save - the series is 4-1
For the swarm!
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
December 13 2009 01:16 GMT
#3129
On December 13 2009 10:10 jtan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:02 grobo wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:01 jtan wrote:
morrow taken down by shauni haha


Too bad for Morrow but this way we might see another sweden in the playoffs.

I don't care much for the fact that he's swedish but I'm starting to like his attitude. When people are agreeing he's actually too bad to be in top 12 he doesn't stop playing but instead goes for the first place. I like that.

This. Very competitive attitude <3.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
December 13 2009 01:18 GMT
#3130
On December 13 2009 10:15 iSCd wrote:

page one looks save - the series is 4-1


Oops, my bad, sorry.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 13 2009 01:19 GMT
#3131
Did F91 cheat too? Or did he just give up because he didn't get the top 12 he really needed?
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 13 2009 01:19 GMT
#3132
Mamon over 800 games now. Deserves a showmatch or something at least. For the effort alone, my god.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 13 2009 01:21 GMT
#3133
On December 13 2009 10:19 Fzero wrote:
Mamon over 800 games now. Deserves a showmatch or something at least. For the effort alone, my god.

Bo99?
Administrator
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 13 2009 01:21 GMT
#3134
sigh this went to shit

Played a beastly 45 games today over the last 16-17 hours or so, and I noticed it started to take a toll on me as I was getting really tired the last 15 games or so, with the 10 last just being desperate cheese attempts every game trying to gain fast points which ultimately failed horribly.

Really disappointing not making it after playing 400~ games these last 3 weeks in between 3 exams (which kinda suffered from it lol) but with my terribad PvZ (44% including probably 20 wins before I started losing at the B ranks) and the B+/A- rank thriving with Zergs I never seemed to get anyway once I got above A- In the end I guess I am just not good enough to qualify.

So now I have to cheer for Eri and Shauni(if he pulls through last minute)
God Hates a Coward
Torlak
Profile Joined August 2007
Macedonia74 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:24:05
December 13 2009 01:22 GMT
#3135
On December 13 2009 10:15 iSCd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:13 ondik wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?


I'm more curious about how admins will solve the rule-breaking. Can effect many players, for example http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/matchlist/874043/1x1.html


page one looks save - the series is 4-1


Yes, 4:0 in a period of 1 hour against Future. And he probably won't make it because of it. The irony...

edit: woops, missed the first game, my bad
I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
December 13 2009 01:23 GMT
#3136
On December 13 2009 10:14 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?

I completely agree with you, but I accidentally quoted only the rule's example, and not the rule itself. The actual rule is this:

Show nested quote +

2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period


The way this is worded sounds dangerously similar to #2. It would be completely nonsensical to have it that way, but I hope the admins clarify the situation.



Quote from the rules thread:

"On the final day of the ladder, players may only play another player to a difference of three games. For example, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2, 6-3 are all acceptable last day series scores against a single player, while 4-0 is not. Once the score reaches a three game margin for either player, the players must stop playing each other."
For the swarm!
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 01:24 GMT
#3137
On December 13 2009 10:21 Oystein wrote:
sigh this went to shit

Played a beastly 45 games today over the last 16-17 hours or so, and I noticed it started to take a toll on me as I was getting really tired the last 15 games or so, with the 10 last just being desperate cheese attempts every game trying to gain fast points which ultimately failed horribly.

Really disappointing not making it after playing 400~ games these last 3 weeks in between 3 exams (which kinda suffered from it lol) but with my terribad PvZ (44% including probably 20 wins before I started losing at the B ranks) and the B+/A- rank thriving with Zergs I never seemed to get anyway once I got above A- In the end I guess I am just not good enough to qualify.

So now I have to cheer for Eri and Shauni(if he pulls through last minute)


Too bad man really wanted to see you in the playoffs.
We make signature, then defense it.
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
December 13 2009 01:25 GMT
#3138
On December 13 2009 09:40 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 09:28 DarkShadowz wrote:
Go Morrow! Show everyone you are the best up and coming player this year!


This post made me cringe. If here were to show anyone anything he wouldn't dodge top TSL players or Koreans. T____T

Crossing fingers for Morrow not taking #1.

Crossing fingers morrow can take#1 so NonY can manhandle him :D
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:26:53
December 13 2009 01:26 GMT
#3139
On December 13 2009 10:24 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:21 Oystein wrote:
sigh this went to shit

Played a beastly 45 games today over the last 16-17 hours or so, and I noticed it started to take a toll on me as I was getting really tired the last 15 games or so, with the 10 last just being desperate cheese attempts every game trying to gain fast points which ultimately failed horribly.

Really disappointing not making it after playing 400~ games these last 3 weeks in between 3 exams (which kinda suffered from it lol) but with my terribad PvZ (44% including probably 20 wins before I started losing at the B ranks) and the B+/A- rank thriving with Zergs I never seemed to get anyway once I got above A- In the end I guess I am just not good enough to qualify.

So now I have to cheer for Eri and Shauni(if he pulls through last minute)


Too bad man really wanted to see you in the playoffs.


Yea same you the #1 streamer on TL.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
December 13 2009 01:26 GMT
#3140
THe cutoff is actually lower now than it was an hour ago?

9500 vs 9600 earlier?

Maybe it's grinded to a halt. :o
you are one of the least benigtedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting.
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