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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
December 13 2009 01:27 GMT
#3141
On December 13 2009 10:21 Oystein wrote:
sigh this went to shit

Played a beastly 45 games today over the last 16-17 hours or so, and I noticed it started to take a toll on me as I was getting really tired the last 15 games or so, with the 10 last just being desperate cheese attempts every game trying to gain fast points which ultimately failed horribly.

Really disappointing not making it after playing 400~ games these last 3 weeks in between 3 exams (which kinda suffered from it lol) but with my terribad PvZ (44% including probably 20 wins before I started losing at the B ranks) and the B+/A- rank thriving with Zergs I never seemed to get anyway once I got above A- In the end I guess I am just not good enough to qualify.

So now I have to cheer for Eri and Shauni(if he pulls through last minute)


Nice effort Oystein!... I loved watching you stream and you had some crazy games! Too bad though =(
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 13 2009 01:27 GMT
#3142
GOGO SHAUNI GO
GigelPintea
Profile Joined March 2008
Romania47 Posts
December 13 2009 01:27 GMT
#3143
Hehez Dreiven back at 9502
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 13 2009 01:30 GMT
#3144
sweden rocks =O
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
December 13 2009 01:31 GMT
#3145
a hour and a half for lz to go up 500 points. Dont think it can be done
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
December 13 2009 01:31 GMT
#3146
gogo dreiven
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
December 13 2009 01:33 GMT
#3147
qualifiers 9600+
crazy
matamata
Profile Joined February 2005
United States133 Posts
December 13 2009 01:33 GMT
#3148
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/877057/1x1.html

4-0? oO
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
December 13 2009 01:34 GMT
#3149
when does iccup season end? is it the same time as the tsl ladder or later?
Better than Pokebunny
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
December 13 2009 01:34 GMT
#3150
On December 13 2009 10:23 iSCd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:14 city42 wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?

I completely agree with you, but I accidentally quoted only the rule's example, and not the rule itself. The actual rule is this:


2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period


The way this is worded sounds dangerously similar to #2. It would be completely nonsensical to have it that way, but I hope the admins clarify the situation.



Quote from the rules thread:

"On the final day of the ladder, players may only play another player to a difference of three games. For example, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2, 6-3 are all acceptable last day series scores against a single player, while 4-0 is not. Once the score reaches a three game margin for either player, the players must stop playing each other."

Ah, thanks. I was reading the "announcements and links" page and they had an abridged version of the rule, without that last part. Now all that remains to be seen is what sort of punishment the TSL guys give to kolll.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 13 2009 01:35 GMT
#3151
On December 13 2009 10:26 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:24 grobo wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:21 Oystein wrote:
sigh this went to shit

Played a beastly 45 games today over the last 16-17 hours or so, and I noticed it started to take a toll on me as I was getting really tired the last 15 games or so, with the 10 last just being desperate cheese attempts every game trying to gain fast points which ultimately failed horribly.

Really disappointing not making it after playing 400~ games these last 3 weeks in between 3 exams (which kinda suffered from it lol) but with my terribad PvZ (44% including probably 20 wins before I started losing at the B ranks) and the B+/A- rank thriving with Zergs I never seemed to get anyway once I got above A- In the end I guess I am just not good enough to qualify.

So now I have to cheer for Eri and Shauni(if he pulls through last minute)


Too bad man really wanted to see you in the playoffs.


Yea same you the #1 streamer on TL.

Thanks for the kinds words everyone! Encourages me to stream more when the new season begins.

On the bright side I never was above the cutoff unlike others who was as high as A and failing now, they must be really kicking themselves. In general a real rat race going on now in the end.
God Hates a Coward
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 13 2009 01:37 GMT
#3152
On December 13 2009 10:33 matamata wrote:
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/877057/1x1.html

4-0? oO

December 9th, rule wasn't in effect then
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:38:50
December 13 2009 01:38 GMT
#3153
On December 13 2009 10:34 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:23 iSCd wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:14 city42 wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?

I completely agree with you, but I accidentally quoted only the rule's example, and not the rule itself. The actual rule is this:


2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period


The way this is worded sounds dangerously similar to #2. It would be completely nonsensical to have it that way, but I hope the admins clarify the situation.



Quote from the rules thread:

"On the final day of the ladder, players may only play another player to a difference of three games. For example, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2, 6-3 are all acceptable last day series scores against a single player, while 4-0 is not. Once the score reaches a three game margin for either player, the players must stop playing each other."

Ah, thanks. I was reading the "announcements and links" page and they had an abridged version of the rule, without that last part. Now all that remains to be seen is what sort of punishment the TSL guys give to kolll.


and yosh (edit: reading the post above, apparently not yosh :D) and probably some other players too.
+ there are maybe some more abusers who have to be DQ.
hell, the tsl staff will have tons of work to do before the actual #48 will be figured out.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
December 13 2009 01:39 GMT
#3154
On December 13 2009 10:09 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 09:57 darktreb wrote:If there was somehow a TSL3 I kind of hope they let top players smurf (and transfer around to avoid getting detected). It would be a huge pain to check for abuse but if they forced a process (like you have to privately announce to the admins what account you're transferring from and to, and have every replay available for every game) on it I think it's doable.


and wouldn't that be exciting. i somehow doubt we would have 156 pages of p26hn1 is only 1 win out of the top 48 guys! wow, p28jd5 just 3-0'd p98kd8! siick!

certain sacrifices must be made to turn games of starcraft into a $23k tournament. bending to spectators is one.


You're right but you say it as if the ladder phase is the end.

The spectator phase is yet to come - this is akin to reading LR's about offline qualifiers in OSL/MSL. It's very exciting (I always follow it closely) but it's nothing compared to the actual tournaments.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
December 13 2009 01:44 GMT
#3155
Morrow needs a 400 points =O... Come on! That's 4 or 5 games... Still 75 mins left!
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
SultanVinegar
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States372 Posts
December 13 2009 01:45 GMT
#3156
morrow playing kwark . . .
I'm a Flash man.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 13 2009 01:46 GMT
#3157
On December 13 2009 10:45 SultanVinegar wrote:
morrow playing kwark . . .


and?
We make signature, then defense it.
matamata
Profile Joined February 2005
United States133 Posts
December 13 2009 01:49 GMT
#3158
On December 13 2009 10:46 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:45 SultanVinegar wrote:
morrow playing kwark . . .


and?


And he won 2 tvp's in 5 and 8 minutes... right
GigelPintea
Profile Joined March 2008
Romania47 Posts
December 13 2009 01:49 GMT
#3159
On December 13 2009 10:46 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:45 SultanVinegar wrote:
morrow playing kwark . . .


and?


and probably morrow won 3-0 so just 300 more points for morrow
iSCd
Profile Joined October 2009
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 01:52:22
December 13 2009 01:50 GMT
#3160
On December 13 2009 10:34 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 10:23 iSCd wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:14 city42 wrote:
On December 13 2009 10:07 JohnnyCash wrote:
On December 13 2009 09:42 city42 wrote:
I wonder how the admins will enforce the rule as it pertains to kolll vs sziky. The rule is as follows:


Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.


Now, kolll beat sziky 3-0, then lost 1-2 to him just recently. However, he won the first game of the second three game series, meaning at that moment in time he was 4-0 vs. sziky. The rule can be interpreted two ways:

1) If at any point in time you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent within a 24 hour period, you have broken the rule.

2) If, after the 24 period starting with the first game has elapsed, you have a 4+ win differential against the same opponent, you have broken the rule.

Kolll would be guilty of #1, but not #2 (although if he keeps playing sziky he could potentially violate #2 as well).


In my understanding they should have stopped playing as soon as it was 3-0 in favour of one of them. Way #2 would be an absurd rule, how could you be sure that you will bring back the differential to only 3 at the end of the day?

I completely agree with you, but I accidentally quoted only the rule's example, and not the rule itself. The actual rule is this:


2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent per 24-hour period


The way this is worded sounds dangerously similar to #2. It would be completely nonsensical to have it that way, but I hope the admins clarify the situation.



Quote from the rules thread:

"On the final day of the ladder, players may only play another player to a difference of three games. For example, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2, 6-3 are all acceptable last day series scores against a single player, while 4-0 is not. Once the score reaches a three game margin for either player, the players must stop playing each other."

Ah, thanks. I was reading the "announcements and links" page and they had an abridged version of the rule, without that last part. Now all that remains to be seen is what sort of punishment the TSL guys give to kolll.


It happend to quite some players - I assume they ll remove the games. In this case kolll would actually gain +150 points. Sziky might lose his top12 spot by it... Cant imagine they make penalty especially in this case as its imo obviously not done on purpose.
These cases are actually quite sad - they might change the ladder quite a lot and surprise some people who then have no chance to alter things. It happend to some players...
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