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On December 09 2009 21:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
As I already said a few times..
It just depends on how much kolll is going to play..
If he plays as much as he can and really can play hardcore the next day he will even make top 12
I dont doubt his skills a single bit.. All will come down to how much he plays..
If Koll averages a 2/3 win ratio (and don't say WTF he's much better than that... Idra has a 68% win ratio and Koll currently has a 72%, and the first 30 to 40 games don't really count), Koll will average 40 points per game and need to play 30 games in the next day to make top 12 as it currently is.
He's currently 50% at A-. If he wins 60%, he'll need a little under 50 games to make top 12.
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Khalleb did you see that Byakerai dude on Inka`s stream ? L M A O X D
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there should be a prize for most games played lol
TSL.Mamon. 652 ladder games is insane.
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Everyime I read this thread it's about Kolll (most of the time), IdrA or Inc vs Morrow.
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On December 10 2009 04:05 _Grazze_ wrote:
Everyime I read this thread it's about Kolll (most of the time), IdrA or Inc vs Morrow.
I would add Kwark to that list.
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On December 10 2009 03:01 igotmyown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2009 21:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
As I already said a few times..
It just depends on how much kolll is going to play..
If he plays as much as he can and really can play hardcore the next day he will even make top 12
I dont doubt his skills a single bit.. All will come down to how much he plays.. If Koll averages a 2/3 win ratio (and don't say WTF he's much better than that... Idra has a 68% win ratio and Koll currently has a 72%, and the first 30 to 40 games don't really count), Koll will average 40 points per game and need to play 30 games in the next day to make top 12 as it currently is. He's currently 50% at A-. If he wins 60%, he'll need a little under 50 games to make top 12.
Your conclusion should be something like "if he plays 50 games and wins 60%, he'll make the top 12"
Saying he'll need 50 games at a 60% win rate fails to take into account the probability of a win streak.
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On December 10 2009 04:25 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 03:01 igotmyown wrote:On December 09 2009 21:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
As I already said a few times..
It just depends on how much kolll is going to play..
If he plays as much as he can and really can play hardcore the next day he will even make top 12
I dont doubt his skills a single bit.. All will come down to how much he plays.. If Koll averages a 2/3 win ratio (and don't say WTF he's much better than that... Idra has a 68% win ratio and Koll currently has a 72%, and the first 30 to 40 games don't really count), Koll will average 40 points per game and need to play 30 games in the next day to make top 12 as it currently is. He's currently 50% at A-. If he wins 60%, he'll need a little under 50 games to make top 12. Your conclusion should be something like "if he plays 50 games and wins 60%, he'll make the top 12" Saying he'll need 50 games at a 60% win rate fails to take into account the probability of a win streak.
Or a lose streak that drops him 1000 points so he'll need 100 more games
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i see now that putting idra on my anti team was a mistake
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On December 10 2009 04:24 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 04:05 _Grazze_ wrote:
Everyime I read this thread it's about Kolll (most of the time), IdrA or Inc vs Morrow. I would add Kwark to that list.
Oh, forgot!
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On December 10 2009 04:59 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 04:25 Liquid`NonY wrote:On December 10 2009 03:01 igotmyown wrote:On December 09 2009 21:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
As I already said a few times..
It just depends on how much kolll is going to play..
If he plays as much as he can and really can play hardcore the next day he will even make top 12
I dont doubt his skills a single bit.. All will come down to how much he plays.. If Koll averages a 2/3 win ratio (and don't say WTF he's much better than that... Idra has a 68% win ratio and Koll currently has a 72%, and the first 30 to 40 games don't really count), Koll will average 40 points per game and need to play 30 games in the next day to make top 12 as it currently is. He's currently 50% at A-. If he wins 60%, he'll need a little under 50 games to make top 12. Your conclusion should be something like "if he plays 50 games and wins 60%, he'll make the top 12" Saying he'll need 50 games at a 60% win rate fails to take into account the probability of a win streak. Or a lose streak that drops him 1000 points so he'll need 100 more games
No I don't think so...
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On December 10 2009 01:43 win8282 wrote:
No disrespect, but how the **** is morrow up there at the upper A ranks? He probably knows better than anyone that he would get rolfpowned by the average A- korean player(probably the average B+ player as well)...
edit: I found out why... He's played only 2-3 koreans in his last 250 games... oh, and he played a few d,d+ guys too... shame on you morrow...
In that respect, HWAITING Idra! A+ foreigner breaking the #50 rank of 1v1 iccup! (though he also semi-ladder abused. He only beat 2-3 korean A ranked players so far on his road to A+...)
The D/D+/C- games don't mean anything, that should be obvious. He got a total of 117 points from those. Right now, 117 points less would not change anything about morrow's position on the ladder. And even if it would, those were legit games.
Why shouldn't he be in the A ranks? He is beating A/A- players consistently enough to keep this rank or even climb the ladder. If he doesn't deserve that rank, none of the people he beat deserve that rank. And those would be quite some. Whether he gets owned by A- koreans or not doesn't matter, he deserves his spot among the other TSL players.
It's not abuse if you play people at lower ranks unless they are actually giving you freewins (as in not even trying to win). If it were abuse, it would be prohibited in both the ICC rules and especially in the TSL rules. But it isn't because the points per time ratio is so low that it's simply not worth it.
Yes, it is forbidden for the last few days of the ladder, but that is only to prevent people from climbing a rank or two with minimal risk to enter the top12 etc.
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Mondragon is hot for SC !! Thats a sign.
Just if your curious as to how the guy looks mondi gets his nickname from:
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/518140/artikel_Mondragon-brennt-auf-den-SC.html
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On December 10 2009 02:46 Lobbo wrote:
IDRA IS ON THE FIRST FUCKING PAGE ON ICCUP @ LADDER 1V1!!!!! so awesome.
sure and who the hell is sexydog from Australia on the first page? It appears he plays all races...won't be leg.
By the way i really wish that White-Ra will win TSL2. He just has to beat Idra, which won't be easy task.
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On December 10 2009 05:45 Ricjames wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 02:46 Lobbo wrote:
IDRA IS ON THE FIRST FUCKING PAGE ON ICCUP @ LADDER 1V1!!!!! so awesome. sure and who the hell is sexydog from Australia on the first page? It appears he plays all races...won't be leg. By the way i really wish that White-Ra will win TSL2. He just has to beat Idra, which won't be easy task.
This has been covered so, so many times. It's a bug with ICCup, they think some Korean IPs are Australian.
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It would of been nice of NonY played lol and got 1st on ladder.
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then probably the 2nd would have got the chance to play him.. ( dunno rlly ^^ )
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motbob
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I've been keeping track of all the >20 minute games played against A- Koreans so that I can easily go through the rep packs after they're released and find good games. It's really amazing how many more long games Idra and White-Ra have played against Koreans than everyone else.
TSL.IdrA 35
TSL-mOrrow 1
DuskBin.SenTSL 1
TSL-Strelok 1
TSL.White-Ra 38
tsl-yosh 7
TSL)Mondragon( 4
TSL-ret 5
DuskBin.F91TSL 4
TSL-Fenix 7
TSL_Yan 1
TSL.MaNa. 10
tsl-terran 7
TSL-DIMAGA 1
TSL.RoX.ALF 0
TSL.MoonShine 1
TSL-Fluffy 1
TSL.iNfeRnaL 0
Tsl.Sziky 4
TSL-Avi 0
TSL-OctZerg 1
TSL-iG.Casper 4
[TSL]_LzGaMeR 0
tsl-eg.nyoken 0
TSL-GoOdy 0
TSL-Kr 0
TSL-Arew 1
TSL-G5 9
TSL-DeSka 7
TSL-HoRRoR 0
TSL-CaStrO 3
TSL-KabaL 0
TSL-KawaiiRice 0
TSL-XiaOzI 3
TSL-Dreiven 0
TSL-MerCury 0
TSL.GhosTa 0
TSL-DeathAngel 0
TSL-ParanOid 0
TSL-CloseR 1
TSL-KiLLeR 13
TSL-Yayba 0
TSL-JuanJo_O 0
TSL-Spawn 3
TSL-Zazu(GN) 0
TSL-HappyZerg 0
TSL-Naugrim 0
TSL-iG.Tarson 1
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KiLLeR is the 3rd most manly player in TSL.
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Kolll better make it, I will be so mad if he doesn't like omg.
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On December 10 2009 06:28 motbob wrote:
I've been keeping track of all the >20 minute games played against A- Koreans...
Is that games played or won? Sorry I'm lazy 
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