EPTIm sorry nevergg. Im sorry flash fans.
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
Im sorry nevergg. Im sorry flash fans. | ||
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Funnytoss
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koreasilver
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I really like her and she's done tons of work but what she did was kinda meh. | ||
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
Is it tollerate to F U a person? ,_, (ok this is a joke but i suppose that he can wrote with other words..) However NeverGG reaction was little too emotional..but you couldn't simply try to pm her? We have to be serious..she has given us tons of cool stuff from progaming scene.. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 03 2010 22:24 Funnytoss wrote: I agree with the ban in that I feel that cancelling the project was an inappropriate reaction to Rekrul's provocation, but at the same time, I wish we could also become a place where we wouldn't need to have members thinking, "That made me so angry, but I'm just gonna have to hold it back" constantly in the interest of "taking a joke". I can't see how Rekrul's contribution to the thread did *any* good at all, and although I recognize that some people found it amusing and maybe that's all a forum post needs depending upon your standards of what is considered posting quality, I would much prefer that this kind of stuff doesn't happen in the first place, i.e. people know that others may not have the same sense of humor, and there's no need to deliberately try to piss someone off or hurt their feelings, overreaction or not. I think people aren't considering the possibility that flash knew about rekrul's bet and as rekrul said, would find the message funny. Dunno if that's actually the case but seems entirely possible to me. | ||
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:02 travis wrote: I think people aren't considering the possibility that flash knew about rekrul's bet and as rekrul said, would find the message funny. Dunno if that's actually the case but seems entirely possible to me. I think your missing the point of why NeverGG got pissed in the first place. She probably just rolled her eyes at the first post but the second: + Show Spoiler + Rekrul ??? Random fan boy well wishes Flash will not care and insta-disregard. But a fuck you from rekrul? That will make him laugh. He did actually call her initiative worthless even though he has no right to do so. Truth is, if it I had posted that I would have been banned and rightfully so. Question is if Rekrul should. He's like our fucking mascot lol. Someone who can do whatever the fuck he wants. I understand that NeverGG may have overreacted, but I don't see why no one seems to come down on Rekrul. He's a dick, I mean he would say so himself. Some people get hurt a lot easier than others (especially girls). But since Rekrul doesn't get as much as a warning whenever he hurts someone's feelings you are just going to have to take it. Doesn't seem fair to me. Even if this is Teamliquid, there should be some decency towards people who contribute as much as her. I think the ban was a mistake. You could atleast see through the fingers since Rekrul was an ass, but he doesn't get banned no matter what he does. | ||
Antoine
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:20 Kong John wrote: I think your missing the point of why NeverGG got pissed in the first place. She probably just rolled her eyes at the first post but the second: + Show Spoiler + Rekrul ??? Random fan boy well wishes Flash will not care and insta-disregard. But a fuck you from rekrul? That will make him laugh. He did actually call her initiative worthless even though he has no right to do so. Truth is, if it I had posted that I would have been banned and rightfully so. Question is if Rekrul should. He's like our fucking mascot lol. Someone who can do whatever the fuck he wants. I understand that NeverGG may have overreacted, but I don't see why no one seems to come down on Rekrul. He's a dick, I mean he would say so himself. Some people get hurt a lot easier than others (especially girls). But since Rekrul doesn't get as much as a warning whenever he hurts someone's feelings you are just going to have to take it. Doesn't seem fair to me. Even if this is Teamliquid, there should be some decency towards people who contribute as much as her. I think the ban was a mistake. You could atleast see through the fingers since Rekrul was an ass, but he doesn't get banned no matter what he does. The rules at TL don't always make perfect sense. Rekrul and his asshole behaviour is just a part of Teamliquid, like Bugzitooni's smiley face replies. He doesn't get warned for those either (as far as I can tell, correct me if I'm wrong). And Plexa making that ridiculous blog about Effort being bad, anyone else would probably get banned for trolling. And Hot_Bid trolling in live report threads. It's just part of Teamliquid and it's what gives it its character. I think that IS reason enough to let these people get away with breaking the rules. I love Rekrul's posts because I know he's not actually a dick, he's just doing it to get attention and be hilarious. He's harmless. NeverGG could have just told Rekrul to stfu and banned him from her blog. Cancelling the whole project was just a cry for attention and it was a complete over reaction. I love NeverGG and all the stuff she does for the community, with her own time and money, but that doesn't mean she can let down Flash fans because of something some idiot decides to say in one of her blogs. You're saying that there should be decency towards major contributors, and one of the mods already pointed out that she has been given a lot of leeway for doing very similar things in the past, and this is her first ban. Also, Rekrul did get banned for being a dick after he was warned, I think it was only last week or so. I think the moderation is very fair here. It's just the way Teamliquid works. I think moderating this site, especially when it comes to veterans, is a much more complex process than we can see. I wouldn't have it any other way. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
As wohmfg said, she could have just banned rekrul from her blog. But instead she punished everyone. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On June 04 2010 02:29 travis wrote: Rekrul has been here a long time and contributed a ton. He also has been banned multiple times. At one point he was a moderator and he lost that privilege. As wohmfg said, she could have just banned rekrul from her blog. But instead she punished everyone. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that Flash project thread was in the Broodwar forum, not blogs. I didn't think you could ban people from threads like that, but maybe NeverGG has that kind of power. Either way, it's a shame for all those people who wanted to get their messages sent. | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On June 04 2010 02:40 Thegilaboy wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but that Flash project thread was in the Broodwar forum, not blogs. I didn't think you could ban people from threads like that, but maybe NeverGG has that kind of power. Either way, it's a shame for all those people who wanted to get their messages sent. Might be my mistake then, I thought it was her blog. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
it actually kind of makes it worse though if she posted it in her blog she would have more right to cut the project off abruptly like that. | ||
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LuDwig-
Italy1143 Posts
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XinRan
United States530 Posts
On June 04 2010 02:08 Wohmfg wrote: Also, Rekrul did get banned for being a dick after he was warned, I think it was only last week or so. I think the moderation is very fair here. I'm pretty sure Rekrul didn't serve out the whole ban. Anyone know why? | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On June 04 2010 03:19 XinRan wrote: I'm pretty sure Rekrul didn't serve out the whole ban. Anyone know why? Just so people knew what was happening with their money, as his bet blog for the MSL finals was still open. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On June 03 2010 21:55 iLoveKT wrote: Ok so I feel like I contributed to all these by being the first one who replied to Rekrul's joke. Am I a bad person? Im sorry nevergg. Im sorry flash fans. Eh, your post gave it some context and made it more obvious that Rek was joking. (Though your match-fixing joke was kinda tasteless given recent events :p) | ||
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
Another thing is, I don't understand why NeverGG in punished for cancelling her own initiative. If she is the only one doing it, she should be able to do whatever she wants. thirdly, normally you can count on the staff to ban people who try to fuck up a thread, but not in this case. That's why the only thing NeverGG could do to get back at Rekrul was something like this. Rekrul actually directly insulted he OP. I don't get why that is so overlooked. No matter how much NeverGG reacted, that is not cool, especially if its a major contributor. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
Despite that, there was discussion in MiR about it but I think the majority didn't think it deserved a ban. Rekrul did not directly insult the OP. Do you know what "directly" means? It'd be a stretch to argue that he even "indirectly" insulted her. Rekrul certainly was not trying to start anything in that thread. nevergg got punished because what she did is the same as saying "im gonna give anyone who replies [x]" then, when 5 pages of people reply, she says "no i changed my mind". that isn't cool (why do i even have to explain that) | ||
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
Yeah NeverGG may have overreacted but it was still her show, so that's fine. Maybe she shouldn't have called out Rekrul, but its not like he was going to get punished for his behaviour, so why does she get punished for having a bad behaviour towards him? It doesn't make sense. Is Rekrul supposed to be some kind of holy deity that can bash on everybody, but no one can bash on him? Either he should get banned or everyone can say whatever they want about him. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
also, people pretty openly talk about what they think about rekrul. he's been tempbanned a few times, demoted from moderator, and warned countlessly for his notorious "honesty" (the quotation marks aren't necessarily a bad thing). i think you are letting your desire to white knight cloud your analysis of the situation - if someone said that to someone else in any other thread, would you jump in and call it "indecent"? don't be so dramatic. | ||
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