EPTOn April 20 2017 02:27 Danglars wrote:
Some days I think I need TL;DRs for your tldr
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On April 19 2017 17:26 fluidrone wrote:
Avilothreadmodenoterecap
If that is not tl bullying right there, i don't know what is?
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tldr: i think while avi would be a quack sabotaging his own revenue by actually scamming people on stream (which he did not do, clearly!), + Show Spoiler + and everyone (everyone vocal that is) apparently wants to see him go to lans and he probably got a bit more out of it than he admits by setting up that as a goal (at least he got his dialog for the week/month he teased it (i have no idea of the time frame))
it is still simply put HIS stream, his reputation, he chooses what to do with it
.. and he did say he would not go unless "x" $ and that was not met (whether it was a decent bluff, great math or just random life who knows, and why do you care (lol)) HE SAID IT, you were listening and ignoring that again lol!)
you putzes bashing him, slandering him
`that 's worst
Avilothreadmodenoterecap
Facts: avilo didn't reach his goal and is keeping the money, but has promised to throw a tournament.
Thread locked since the matter is mostly settled. We can have another thread the next time he does something, I GUESS
Thread locked since the matter is mostly settled. We can have another thread the next time he does something, I GUESS
If that is not tl bullying right there, i don't know what is?
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i do mean tl not tl moderation only 
i mean tl as a whole.
So weird, you laugh cry and shout all in sequence reading this thread (+ Show Spoiler +) and all in a perfectly scenario based logic, a feeling like how a movie seems individually felt while it usually is not, as in most people get a similar overall experience while thinking it vibrated a "personal" individual profound cord. 
.. and then it is locked and you can't reference it as live / current nor archive it in the close thread lounge...
Should there be a locked thread lounge (mmm make that locked thread elevator, the only suspense is the way it is going, flying up or crashing down).
i mostly read it as a hate avilo thread
while i'm too old/safe/wise to make troll/hate threads towards people i do hate (hint hint there are people i do hate, and i'm sad i do)
i still think it fair game to do them
it is douchy to tease and not go
it is douchier to whine about it
no?
In this case i thought there would be support for avi, even if everyone would agree it is not worth one's reputation at so low a return on investment: avi pocketing money that is his would cost him, so he has to give back, which sort of makes it better for fans/haters that he teased for a lan appearance and then won't deliver.. and there was support, but funny stuff support, weird "only seen in movies" stuff...
Again, disclaimer: i could care less, i don't watch avilo nor care about supporting super stupid + Show Spoiler + avilo bashers!
..
i just care about pointing my finger and saying nothing
you shouldn't tease people with such a goal and then not come..
come on dude
surprise!!!
you really should go and make all that lan about you
coz as a venture capital, this "ill go to lan if you pay more" is turning out to be even less profitable than what you felt was a good idea
you are right dear basher, calling out people feels good doesn't it.. but 4 posts.. come on, does avi deserve that from a 4 posts poster..?
So i do get back full circle on abl topic..
i think that thread should have had more than a biased mod note
more like a flag saying: come in here, make a useless post = get boned
because it is lame to let people get slandered as a retort to a douchy sub goal tease no?
Please do give me a 48 hour temp if you disagree...
i think someone recognizable should have placed a post that would have set this clearly, as they should when a 4 posts user posts such slander.
Yes i say slander and tl moderation agrees with me on this or they wouldn't have typed this mod note:
or left avi to his own devices on this thread.. which they did for longer than usually for such "tense" issues,
or
and that is the whole linchpin of the mod note:
look at the title on the side bar
it makes it seem like an anti avilo ad, pure bread
and
add to that what the mod note is implying
it is implying that scamming is what avilo does every day he streams or for everything he does, or will do, there is some level of scam involved? Do tell me i'm wrong and that is not why the thread is locked and not closed!? do tell me there were no reports (and that would be part of the passive aggressive tl bullying) complaining about it, tell me that you did feel it was douchy and let the douchy counter measures kick in.. you shouldn't have i think.
i quote the side bar:
"Avilo scammed viewers for donations?"
look at it again and tell me that is not slander.. WHAT? a question mark at the end you say?
well that all depends on the size of your side bar
..?
Again i disagree totally with teasing a lan and then not going, it is clearly not something that is a good move PR wise...
avi can only go now to beat the system / get something good out of all the attention,
it is clearly in bad taste to not go as presented with 3000 was reached on 3500 even if the actual money math is a net nothing to him
(by the way talking about money only in this case (most people don't earn that much money a month doing a cool job, just saying)
..even if the prospect of him going adds probably like a 500 extra of what he does get from WORKING as a streamer !!! it is a work! remember? even if it is a bonus.. it still is HIS money
whining that you lost a bet doesn't make the casino reimburse you for a pity sex of a tournament.. no
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Anyway,
i really thought that (while i heavily disagree with the leeway that 4 post guy got) this was a cutesy ugly story real life... and that was "noticeable" as in need of pointing out, that is ..if you read the whole thread.
Bad moderation until drone's post
which was perfect (as it so often bar always is the case with a drone post )
but a bit late to the party i feel :/
And wow that poll!
It gave me exactly the same feeling .. disgust and sick grin, nausea at how people hate easily and just how hurt people can get when you are dangling hate for them
From where i'm sitting that 4 poster person is a hater who clearly got his money out to see avilo go to a lan and fail flat on his face, he payed to see a guy get stoned or something.. i'm kind of glad that dork lost his money and that avi is giving that guy the finger
i'm giving that guy the finger too actually, right now and in my pajamas!
i think i could sum it up in a simple enough equation:
all people like to hate
and
all people like to be greedy
avi greedy + people like to hate = avi gets thicker skin or gets half of his viewers leaving
(i'm really torn too, i hate dumb things happening leading to mob mentality
what world is my kin going to have to live in
wow!
Anyway, societal rant aside, i happen to think this bit is the most important bit of the whole thread:
yes it is in the mod notes
i mean tl as a whole.So weird, you laugh cry and shout all in sequence reading this thread (+ Show Spoiler +
reading and re reading it with a back seat moderating view
.. and then it is locked and you can't reference it as live / current nor archive it in the close thread lounge...
Should there be a locked thread lounge (mmm make that locked thread elevator, the only suspense is the way it is going, flying up or crashing down).
i mostly read it as a hate avilo thread
while i'm too old/safe/wise to make troll/hate threads towards people i do hate (hint hint there are people i do hate, and i'm sad i do)
i still think it fair game to do them
it is douchy to tease and not go
it is douchier to whine about it
no?
In this case i thought there would be support for avi, even if everyone would agree it is not worth one's reputation at so low a return on investment: avi pocketing money that is his would cost him, so he has to give back, which sort of makes it better for fans/haters that he teased for a lan appearance and then won't deliver.. and there was support, but funny stuff support, weird "only seen in movies" stuff...
Again, disclaimer: i could care less, i don't watch avilo nor care about supporting super stupid + Show Spoiler +
with too much time on their hands so they have plenty of time to hate on people
..
i just care about pointing my finger and saying nothing
you shouldn't tease people with such a goal and then not come..
come on dude
surprise!!!
you really should go and make all that lan about you
coz as a venture capital, this "ill go to lan if you pay more" is turning out to be even less profitable than what you felt was a good idea
you are right dear basher, calling out people feels good doesn't it.. but 4 posts.. come on, does avi deserve that from a 4 posts poster..?
So i do get back full circle on abl topic..
i think that thread should have had more than a biased mod note
more like a flag saying: come in here, make a useless post = get boned
because it is lame to let people get slandered as a retort to a douchy sub goal tease no?
Please do give me a 48 hour temp if you disagree...
i think someone recognizable should have placed a post that would have set this clearly, as they should when a 4 posts user posts such slander.
Yes i say slander and tl moderation agrees with me on this or they wouldn't have typed this mod note:
Facts: avilo didn't reach his goal and is keeping the money, but has promised to throw a tournament.
Thread locked since the matter is mostly settled. We can have another thread the next time he does something, I GUESS
Thread locked since the matter is mostly settled. We can have another thread the next time he does something, I GUESS
or left avi to his own devices on this thread.. which they did for longer than usually for such "tense" issues,
or
and that is the whole linchpin of the mod note:
look at the title on the side bar
it makes it seem like an anti avilo ad, pure bread
and
add to that what the mod note is implying
it is implying that scamming is what avilo does every day he streams or for everything he does, or will do, there is some level of scam involved? Do tell me i'm wrong and that is not why the thread is locked and not closed!? do tell me there were no reports (and that would be part of the passive aggressive tl bullying) complaining about it, tell me that you did feel it was douchy and let the douchy counter measures kick in.. you shouldn't have i think.
i quote the side bar:
"Avilo scammed viewers for donations?"
look at it again and tell me that is not slander.. WHAT? a question mark at the end you say?
well that all depends on the size of your side bar
..?
Again i disagree totally with teasing a lan and then not going, it is clearly not something that is a good move PR wise...
avi can only go now to beat the system / get something good out of all the attention,
it is clearly in bad taste to not go as presented with 3000 was reached on 3500 even if the actual money math is a net nothing to him
(by the way talking about money only in this case (most people don't earn that much money a month doing a cool job, just saying)
..even if the prospect of him going adds probably like a 500 extra of what he does get from WORKING as a streamer !!! it is a work! remember? even if it is a bonus.. it still is HIS money
whining that you lost a bet doesn't make the casino reimburse you for a pity sex of a tournament.. no
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by the way avi if you need any help with the sc2 editor for your mod/map with your stuff in for your tournament just drop me a pm, it'd be siked to help and see what an avilo grade map plays like for real
just drop me a pm, it'd be siked to help and see what an avilo grade map plays like for realAnyway,
i really thought that (while i heavily disagree with the leeway that 4 post guy got) this was a cutesy ugly story real life... and that was "noticeable" as in need of pointing out, that is ..if you read the whole thread.
Bad moderation until drone's post
which was perfect (as it so often bar always is the case with a drone post
)but a bit late to the party i feel :/
And wow that poll!
It gave me exactly the same feeling .. disgust and sick grin, nausea at how people hate easily and just how hurt people can get when you are dangling hate for them
From where i'm sitting that 4 poster person is a hater who clearly got his money out to see avilo go to a lan and fail flat on his face, he payed to see a guy get stoned or something.. i'm kind of glad that dork lost his money and that avi is giving that guy the finger
i'm giving that guy the finger too actually, right now and in my pajamas!
i think i could sum it up in a simple enough equation:
all people like to hate
and
all people like to be greedy
avi greedy + people like to hate = avi gets thicker skin or gets half of his viewers leaving
(i'm really torn too, i hate dumb things happening leading to mob mentality
what world is my kin going to have to live in
wow!
Anyway, societal rant aside, i happen to think this bit is the most important bit of the whole thread:
the next time he does something
yes it is in the mod notes
tldr: i think while avi would be a quack sabotaging his own revenue by actually scamming people on stream (which he did not do, clearly!), + Show Spoiler +
i don't care .. i don't watch his stream nor care if he competes in lans
it is still simply put HIS stream, his reputation, he chooses what to do with it
.. and he did say he would not go unless "x" $ and that was not met (whether it was a decent bluff, great math or just random life who knows, and why do you care (lol)) HE SAID IT, you were listening and ignoring that again lol!)
you putzes bashing him, slandering him
`that 's worst
Some days I think I need TL;DRs for your tldr
I got lost in the maze of spoilers and gave up.
