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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 08 2013 20:53 GMT
#34581
On February 09 2013 04:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 03:53 andrewlt wrote:
My temper was really rising when reading that thread. Some people are just sick.


The worst thing about this kind of threads is that most posters either don't read all of the material or conveniently choose to misread clear speculation/allegation as precise, hard fact. And from that point on come the debates and potential flame wars, even though it doesn't fucking matter because they're basing all of it on assumptions while failing to recognize that they're only that, assumptions, suppositions, speculation.

General forum, why so bad?


For me, the worst thing is that these threads usually attract people with the most extreme opinions. The extremists usually derail the thread into a tangent about their conspiracy theories, their wild analogies and their generally insane beliefs. For example, people like zaqwe, sunprince and vividred, among others, already took the thread in wild tangents. And I haven't read much past page 20.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 08 2013 20:59 GMT
#34582
On February 09 2013 05:53 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 04:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 09 2013 03:53 andrewlt wrote:
My temper was really rising when reading that thread. Some people are just sick.


The worst thing about this kind of threads is that most posters either don't read all of the material or conveniently choose to misread clear speculation/allegation as precise, hard fact. And from that point on come the debates and potential flame wars, even though it doesn't fucking matter because they're basing all of it on assumptions while failing to recognize that they're only that, assumptions, suppositions, speculation.

General forum, why so bad?


For me, the worst thing is that these threads usually attract people with the most extreme opinions. The extremists usually derail the thread into a tangent about their conspiracy theories, their wild analogies and their generally insane beliefs. For example, people like zaqwe, sunprince and vividred, among others, already took the thread in wild tangents. And I haven't read much past page 20.


The issues are not that unrelated actually. The conclusion that I've come to is that when it comes to controversial topics, generally the more extreme an opinion is, the more ignorant the person is. It's by no means a matter of fact, merely an empirical observation, but cliche as it may sound, the truth generally lies somewhere in the middle when it comes to matters involving humans. It's not all black and white and generally both extremes have some fair points as well as some ludicrous, outlandish claims. It wouldn't be that bad if people were actually willing to sit down, shut up and actually listen to one another and not misinterpret articles/studies/statistics but hey that's people for you... -_-
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 09 2013 02:10 GMT
#34583
Damn StarStruck banned? He's smart, awesome and competent.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
February 09 2013 02:11 GMT
#34584
On February 09 2013 11:10 Torte de Lini wrote:
Damn StarStruck banned? He's smart, awesome and competent.

His posts are laced with a sort of cynicism that probably surpasses my own.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
StrawDog5
Profile Joined February 2013
29 Posts
February 09 2013 03:47 GMT
#34585
Maybe you guys should add to the ten commandments that posts about gun control can only be made in a single thread devoted to it. Without that it seems a little baseless to warn out of the blue for it.
Kwark for Bastion of Common Sense in the General Forum, credit to milliflue
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 09 2013 04:07 GMT
#34586
On February 09 2013 12:47 StrawDog5 wrote:
Maybe you guys should add to the ten commandments that posts about gun control can only be made in a single thread devoted to it. Without that it seems a little baseless to warn out of the blue for it.

it says it right there in the commandments: our house, we do whatever the fuck we want.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
February 09 2013 04:12 GMT
#34587
On February 09 2013 13:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 12:47 StrawDog5 wrote:
Maybe you guys should add to the ten commandments that posts about gun control can only be made in a single thread devoted to it. Without that it seems a little baseless to warn out of the blue for it.

it says it right there in the commandments: our house, we do whatever the fuck we want.

Ehh this isn't how they usually use "This is our house." It does seem a bit funky to issue warnings when there's no way to know its not allowed, there's no mod note on that thread. But this isnt the place for that discussion.

StrawDog5, if you care enough you can go to Website Feedback and make a thread about it.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 09 2013 04:16 GMT
#34588
On February 09 2013 13:12 Bibbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 13:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 09 2013 12:47 StrawDog5 wrote:
Maybe you guys should add to the ten commandments that posts about gun control can only be made in a single thread devoted to it. Without that it seems a little baseless to warn out of the blue for it.

it says it right there in the commandments: our house, we do whatever the fuck we want.

Ehh this isn't how they usually use "This is our house." It does seem a bit funky to issue warnings when there's no way to know its not allowed, there's no mod note on that thread. But this isnt the place for that discussion.

StrawDog5, if you care enough you can go to Website Feedback and make a thread about it.

thats exactly how they use it because thats exactly what it says:

This means we run the site the way we see fit.

and there is no problem with issuing warnings to people who post in the wrong thread. thats what warnings are for. its not the end of the world to get a warning. it affects nothing about your use of the website.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
February 09 2013 04:35 GMT
#34589
Just think of it as the elastic cause of the Constitution.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
StrawDog5
Profile Joined February 2013
29 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 04:54:27
February 09 2013 04:53 GMT
#34590
On February 09 2013 13:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 13:12 Bibbit wrote:
On February 09 2013 13:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 09 2013 12:47 StrawDog5 wrote:
Maybe you guys should add to the ten commandments that posts about gun control can only be made in a single thread devoted to it. Without that it seems a little baseless to warn out of the blue for it.

it says it right there in the commandments: our house, we do whatever the fuck we want.

Ehh this isn't how they usually use "This is our house." It does seem a bit funky to issue warnings when there's no way to know its not allowed, there's no mod note on that thread. But this isnt the place for that discussion.

StrawDog5, if you care enough you can go to Website Feedback and make a thread about it.

thats exactly how they use it because thats exactly what it says:

Show nested quote +
This means we run the site the way we see fit.

and there is no problem with issuing warnings to people who post in the wrong thread. thats what warnings are for. its not the end of the world to get a warning. it affects nothing about your use of the website.

Every time someone gets permed or even banned it's based on a "you have X moderation actions" justification. So I would hardly say it affects nothing.

And you can't really call it the "wrong thread." The thread is about a manifesto and a guy who is shooting people. He talks about gun control in said manifesto, and is using said guns to kill people.
Kwark for Bastion of Common Sense in the General Forum, credit to milliflue
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 09 2013 04:55 GMT
#34591
On February 09 2013 13:53 StrawDog5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 13:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 09 2013 13:12 Bibbit wrote:
On February 09 2013 13:07 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 09 2013 12:47 StrawDog5 wrote:
Maybe you guys should add to the ten commandments that posts about gun control can only be made in a single thread devoted to it. Without that it seems a little baseless to warn out of the blue for it.

it says it right there in the commandments: our house, we do whatever the fuck we want.

Ehh this isn't how they usually use "This is our house." It does seem a bit funky to issue warnings when there's no way to know its not allowed, there's no mod note on that thread. But this isnt the place for that discussion.

StrawDog5, if you care enough you can go to Website Feedback and make a thread about it.

thats exactly how they use it because thats exactly what it says:

This means we run the site the way we see fit.

and there is no problem with issuing warnings to people who post in the wrong thread. thats what warnings are for. its not the end of the world to get a warning. it affects nothing about your use of the website.

Every time someone gets permed or even banned it's based on a "you have X moderation actions" justification. So I would hardly say it affects nothing.


getting warned is making a misstake, if you start repeatedly getting banned your doing it wrong. Also mods can see what the warning was for. posting in the wrong thread isn't seen as a huge deal I would belive
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 09 2013 05:32 GMT
#34592
why are there always so many awful posts yet whenever i browse forums i can never find any to report? its not fair TT

i do think a general note about not talking about gun control would be good though, instead of having to post it on every single thread every time anything related pops up.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2013 05:33 GMT
#34593
On February 09 2013 14:32 karis wrote:
why are there always so many awful posts yet whenever i browse forums i can never find any to report? its not fair TT

i do think a general note about not talking about gun control would be good though, instead of having to post it on every single thread every time anything related pops up.

Go to the Code S thread next week. If MC and/or Gumiho lose to Curious and Losira there will be plenty of posts to report
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 09 2013 07:38 GMT
#34594
[image loading]

So it's StarStruck's fault that some people are stupid? This is a sad day, he was easily one of the more informed and intelligent posters on this site.

On February 09 2013 14:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 14:32 karis wrote:
why are there always so many awful posts yet whenever i browse forums i can never find any to report? its not fair TT

i do think a general note about not talking about gun control would be good though, instead of having to post it on every single thread every time anything related pops up.

Go to the Code S thread next week. If MC and/or Gumiho lose to Curious and Losira there will be plenty of posts to report


Or if MC wins with some sick timings/all-ins, that will probably beget a lot of whine as well. ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 09 2013 13:36 GMT
#34595
On February 09 2013 16:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
[image loading]

So it's StarStruck's fault that some people are stupid? This is a sad day, he was easily one of the more informed and intelligent posters on this site.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 14:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 09 2013 14:32 karis wrote:
why are there always so many awful posts yet whenever i browse forums i can never find any to report? its not fair TT

i do think a general note about not talking about gun control would be good though, instead of having to post it on every single thread every time anything related pops up.

Go to the Code S thread next week. If MC and/or Gumiho lose to Curious and Losira there will be plenty of posts to report


Or if MC wins with some sick timings/all-ins, that will probably beget a lot of whine as well. ^^


I recommend posting in website feedback that Kwark needs to go. He is demonstrating irascible demeanor, which compounds on the existing auxiliary evidence from other cases of malfeasance.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 09 2013 20:06 GMT
#34596
The ban is obviously fine. The post was super condescending.

On February 09 2013 06:12 StarStruck wrote:
This thread is hilarious.

User was temp banned for this post.

This ban is his 20th mod note, which explains the length.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 20:22:53
February 09 2013 20:22 GMT
#34597
On February 09 2013 14:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 14:32 karis wrote:
why are there always so many awful posts yet whenever i browse forums i can never find any to report? its not fair TT

i do think a general note about not talking about gun control would be good though, instead of having to post it on every single thread every time anything related pops up.

Go to the Code S thread next week. If MC and/or Gumiho lose to Curious and Losira there will be plenty of posts to report


i would but im on west coast and im not staying up till 2 am just to increase my reporting percentage. maybe when i go to korea in a year or two ill be able to do it at a resonable time.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
February 10 2013 01:16 GMT
#34598
NITRIXdaisuki was just banned by Plexa.

That account was created on 2010-12-09 01:48:38 and had 57 posts.

Reason: Hacker. Zero tolerance for scum.


I was wondering when it was going to happen. There goes Daisuki.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
February 10 2013 01:39 GMT
#34599
On February 10 2013 10:16 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
NITRIXdaisuki was just banned by Plexa.

That account was created on 2010-12-09 01:48:38 and had 57 posts.

Reason: Hacker. Zero tolerance for scum.


I was wondering when it was going to happen. There goes Daisuki.


was quite alot of research in the gm hacker thread. Having a sponsorship and hacking... that didnt work out very well for the sponsor
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 02:16:07
February 10 2013 02:15 GMT
#34600
I hope they sponsor another player, most people don't maphack :S

It's sad to see an e-sports sponsor leave because of one bad person.
Getting back into sc2 O_o
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