Whether a mod was after him or not. We will never know.
But what I do know is,
The truth is out there...
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derpface
Sweden925 Posts
January 05 2013 17:50 GMT
#32601
Whether a mod was after him or not. We will never know. But what I do know is, The truth is out there... | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
January 05 2013 17:54 GMT
#32602
On January 06 2013 02:50 derpface wrote: Atleast jd stood for what he believed. All respect to him for that. Whether a mod was after him or not. We will never know. But what I do know is, The truth is out there... Trust no one. I want to believe. The X Files have some conflicting yet applicable themes to jd's ban. | ||
sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
January 05 2013 18:02 GMT
#32603
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
January 05 2013 18:17 GMT
#32604
On January 06 2013 02:50 derpface wrote: Atleast jd stood for what he believed. All respect to him for that. Whether a mod was after him or not. We will never know. But what I do know is, The truth is out there... That is something a JD would say . . . . | ||
derpface
Sweden925 Posts
January 05 2013 18:20 GMT
#32605
BUT hey, lets say they actually were after him. In a way "behind the scenes" that we normal users couldnt notice but he himself noticed it. Then he started to talk about it because he wanted everyone else to know. If the mods response to that was to ban him immediately then people might have gone suspicious and could see a pattern that they actually were after him and that there was truth to his words so they didnt silence him because it would be too obvious and weird to ban him right there. He continued talking about it and it became a sore for the mods since he were talking about it too much, and since he hit spot on, they just needed to do something about it and banned him for 30 days and blamed it on paranoia. But jd wouldnt stop there, he still came to us and talked about it because he just wanted us to know that we might be the next targets and the next one the mods will be after "behind the scenes". And then he got perm-banned cause the mods now had a solid reason to ban him since came talking on some random account while his other was banned. So he was efficiently banned and silenced and we will all continue to live our lives here on the forums without actually knowing what really happend. But what we dont know and cant be sure about is that one or some of us might be the next target the mods will be after. This might be just another conspiracy theory or it might just be truth. We will never know... + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
January 05 2013 18:20 GMT
#32606
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
January 05 2013 18:22 GMT
#32607
On January 06 2013 03:20 Shellshock1122 wrote: I think he should be the 6th nomination since BR nominated him after just the 30 day ban and now even more people want him up there Affinity 12 is still my favorite but I'll vote for JD to be up there. | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
January 05 2013 18:37 GMT
#32608
On January 06 2013 03:22 McFeser wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2013 03:20 Shellshock1122 wrote: I think he should be the 6th nomination since BR nominated him after just the 30 day ban and now even more people want him up there Affinity 12 is still my favorite but I'll vote for JD to be up there. Was just flipping through those, and Affinity is definitely my favorite. Everything from the bot post reads like a catalog description.Still, jd 2013. | ||
farvacola
United States18818 Posts
January 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#32609
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
January 05 2013 19:31 GMT
#32610
On January 06 2013 01:21 KwarK wrote: Did some looking through his history to try and work out wtf he thought was going on and found this. + Show Spoiler + On January 25 2012 02:16 jdseemoreglass wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 16:37 Craton wrote: On January 24 2012 15:19 NicolBolas wrote: On January 24 2012 11:03 Craton wrote: How is this worth a week ban: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255487¤tpage=349#6977 Well... But education is completely irrelevant. You dont learn to understand economics by being able to do math equations, and you dont proof anything by empirical results. If that isn't stupidity worthy of a ban, I don't know what is. The phrasing on the last part was bad, but his overall thought wasn't wrong, which was elaborated on later posts. His tone was also civil. A week is extremely harsh. Clearly the ban was too harsh. But if you haven't learned this yet, tree hugger has a propensity to ban people who express opinions he doesn't agree with, particularly those of a "limited government" variety. The moment Hider made a link to Mises, he had a death sentence over his account. Of course, TH has the sense to wait for the poster to make some small error, to mispeak or say something unpopular or something that can be taken out of context, before banning them. Usually no one has the balls to point these types of things out, but when they do, the go-to argument in these types of cases is to always assume that the posters history is shit and justifies anything a mod ever does, without actually looking up their history and judging for yourself. It's the classic "god works in mysterious ways" type of justification. The reality is that certain people get tired of hearing certain arguments in certain threads, and feel it would be better for everyone if the arguments just went away. This is where all the sheeple point me to the ten commandments and the fact that the mods never believed in free expression or the tolerance of diverse opinions in the first place. And people call this a "mature" community lawl. User was temp banned for this post. I think that may have been the post that he thinks caused one moderator, or the collective group of moderators depending on which he believes at the time, to start a vendetta against him. He was criticising a ban by TH who had a total of zero interactions with JD following that post so no real evidence of that grudge. Coincidentally though, TH did ban him for this post a few months before. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285642¤tpage=10#189 Unfortunately the chronology of it appears to be that TH gives JD a ban that any one of us could have given him because he clearly deserved and then JD starts calling TH out. I'll have to double check my numbers but I think, with the way that time goes forwards, what that means is that the one who is holding the grudge here is JD. Not only are there no more actions by tree hugger against him ever but there is only one ban from that January one until this one, a 2 day ban by Nyovne, a completely routine one for backseat moderating with the minimum ban length possible, despite the whole tinfoil hat "tl bias leave open liberal trash topic" shit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=379067¤tpage=6#106 Despite this he continually insisted that he was being repressed although the specifics of it changed with each instance of whining. The first few times I legitimately tried to work out what he was talking about although I can see his mod history and see that nobody was banning him. Recently I've just called him out on his delusions every time I've seen them in the hope that eventually he'll stop. I'm disgusted but not shocked that he was banned for being right and calling out biased moderation. This whole discussion basically sums up why I spend 99% of the time lurking here. Whether he is paranoid or crazy or what have you, I tend to agree with his main point that keeps getting tossed around: certain people get banned for things others don't and some moderators spend more time breaking the rules than they do enforcing them. | ||
Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
January 05 2013 19:32 GMT
#32611
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 05 2013 19:33 GMT
#32612
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
January 05 2013 19:34 GMT
#32613
jd everywhere! | ||
Cokefreak
Finland8094 Posts
January 05 2013 19:35 GMT
#32614
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
January 05 2013 19:36 GMT
#32615
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
January 05 2013 19:37 GMT
#32616
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
January 05 2013 19:37 GMT
#32617
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
January 05 2013 19:38 GMT
#32618
On January 06 2013 04:37 sam!zdat wrote: I'm a jd smurf lol | ||
ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
January 05 2013 19:38 GMT
#32619
On January 06 2013 04:31 kmillz wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2013 01:21 KwarK wrote: Did some looking through his history to try and work out wtf he thought was going on and found this. + Show Spoiler + On January 25 2012 02:16 jdseemoreglass wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 16:37 Craton wrote: On January 24 2012 15:19 NicolBolas wrote: On January 24 2012 11:03 Craton wrote: How is this worth a week ban: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255487¤tpage=349#6977 Well... But education is completely irrelevant. You dont learn to understand economics by being able to do math equations, and you dont proof anything by empirical results. If that isn't stupidity worthy of a ban, I don't know what is. The phrasing on the last part was bad, but his overall thought wasn't wrong, which was elaborated on later posts. His tone was also civil. A week is extremely harsh. Clearly the ban was too harsh. But if you haven't learned this yet, tree hugger has a propensity to ban people who express opinions he doesn't agree with, particularly those of a "limited government" variety. The moment Hider made a link to Mises, he had a death sentence over his account. Of course, TH has the sense to wait for the poster to make some small error, to mispeak or say something unpopular or something that can be taken out of context, before banning them. Usually no one has the balls to point these types of things out, but when they do, the go-to argument in these types of cases is to always assume that the posters history is shit and justifies anything a mod ever does, without actually looking up their history and judging for yourself. It's the classic "god works in mysterious ways" type of justification. The reality is that certain people get tired of hearing certain arguments in certain threads, and feel it would be better for everyone if the arguments just went away. This is where all the sheeple point me to the ten commandments and the fact that the mods never believed in free expression or the tolerance of diverse opinions in the first place. And people call this a "mature" community lawl. User was temp banned for this post. I think that may have been the post that he thinks caused one moderator, or the collective group of moderators depending on which he believes at the time, to start a vendetta against him. He was criticising a ban by TH who had a total of zero interactions with JD following that post so no real evidence of that grudge. Coincidentally though, TH did ban him for this post a few months before. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285642¤tpage=10#189 Unfortunately the chronology of it appears to be that TH gives JD a ban that any one of us could have given him because he clearly deserved and then JD starts calling TH out. I'll have to double check my numbers but I think, with the way that time goes forwards, what that means is that the one who is holding the grudge here is JD. Not only are there no more actions by tree hugger against him ever but there is only one ban from that January one until this one, a 2 day ban by Nyovne, a completely routine one for backseat moderating with the minimum ban length possible, despite the whole tinfoil hat "tl bias leave open liberal trash topic" shit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=379067¤tpage=6#106 Despite this he continually insisted that he was being repressed although the specifics of it changed with each instance of whining. The first few times I legitimately tried to work out what he was talking about although I can see his mod history and see that nobody was banning him. Recently I've just called him out on his delusions every time I've seen them in the hope that eventually he'll stop. I'm disgusted but not shocked that he was banned for being right and calling out biased moderation. This whole discussion basically sums up why I spend 99% of the time lurking here. Whether he is paranoid or crazy or what have you, I tend to agree with his main point that keeps getting tossed around: certain people get banned for things others don't and some moderators spend more time breaking the rules than they do enforcing them. Of course some people get away with more than others; it even says so in the 10 commandments: 6. THOU SHALL RESPECT FORUM VETERANS All other things being equal, we will give preferential treatment to site members who have been with us longer (as reflected in their post count + length of time with us as a registered member). It's a simple recognition of the quality of these people. Longevity and contribution are prized commodities around here. In a similar vein, "known" pro/semi-pro players will also be treated with deference (yes, quite a few hang out here). Don't complain - these guys have earned it. Remember: we ban little kids all the time because they sign on thinking they can say and do whatever they want to whomever they want right from the get-go - just like they're used to doing at other sites. That attitude won't work here. That's a promise. As far as new users are concerned (i.e. anyone with less than 1000 or so quality posts to their name), this site is Holy Ground. The veterans are the users who've consistently shown respect to the site and to others and that's why they're still here. Show them some respect. In practice, this policy means a user who has thousands of posts may be able to get away with a few minor transgressions in etiquette with just a warning. If you're at 50 posts and you try the same kind of stunt, then we may just ban you. Harsh? Yes. Unfair? Most definitely. But that's the way life is. Learn to live with it. This also means you should think twice before calling that guy with 5000+ posts a jackass. If the guy's been with us that long, chances are YOU'RE the one being an idiot. Some battles are just not worth fighting - just move on. Freedom of speech and equality are not part of the Teamliquid 'constitution' - It says so at the friggin door, you choose to enter, and you choose to leave whenever you want to. EDIT: Not sure if you 'were being ironical' (William Dafoe-face) or not now that I read your post again | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
January 05 2013 19:38 GMT
#32620
On January 06 2013 04:34 Bibbit wrote: Ye after the "2000 alt accounts" comment I dont think I can ever read TL the same again :O jd everywhere! Would explain the paranoia if you put it that way. One man, having hundreds of different discussions with himself. Jd may represent a significant portion of the 4%. | ||
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