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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 01:21:52
December 12 2012 01:17 GMT
#31101
On December 12 2012 10:07 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 09:00 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


Yes let's all go back to living in 11th century Turkey. Not sure if serious. People really take all the civil rights development through the 19th and 20th century for granted >_>.


Assuming my post had anything to do with Civil Rights.

11th Century Turkey saw the rise of Persian Culture and the unification of the Arab world against the Crusaders. The Seljuq Empire brought many people together, surely an eventful time to live in.

My problem with society lies in the direction it is heading. Radio's playing the same repetitive message, television controlling the mindless masses, interpersonal communication breaking down, and the rise of people's wants misconstrued as needs.

People following the beaten path, doing so because they are told it is the moral way, the correct way.

Countless prescriptions to cure problems we don't have, countless self-help books promising to help change you into something better.

Sea's of people drown into apathy from the broken promise of grandeur followed by the slow realization that it was fairy-tales. The loss of all pride in their work, hatred of work and school.

Most importantly the destruction of lasting social ties. People going threw life believing that your self-worth is tied to what you own, how many partners you've had, where you live. The abundance of people thats led to a grass is greener mentality.

Our society is one where divorce is in fashion, people trained to believe in woman as objects of lust, greed taking over all reason, people doing selfless deeds not out of care, but because they were told it looks good on a job and college application. Tunnel vision on the advancement of Civil Rights doesn't change the rest of society going to crap.


Everything you are saying is true, but all you've done is outline events that occur as the result of destructive forces with in society, the destructive forces themselves haven't changed in nature, the process of application and scope has just changed. There really isn't any point of get anecdotal, how many untold millions upon billions have we already had who have listened to the same messages through theocracies and dictatorships, following the beaten path because the Pope told them it's the moral way, wallowing in mediocrity, etc etc. All of the phenomenon you've outlined has always existed, and arguably much much worse earlier on in civilization than today.

The forces and incentive to do work against that destructive process however has changed significantly, viewpoints which are very fundamental in the treatment of gender, the worthiness of life, and so forth, which is why the civil rights movement is useful in highlighting it. To suggest that society hasn't advanced in complexity, that it hasn't diversified in cultural and ethical understanding, is simply wrong. There's always room for improvement and it's unbelievable what a shit hole the world really is and how horrendous human beings can be to each other even to this day, but there has been progress in development in the meaningful ways which impact lives. Even if it's just creating the options and potential for events to occur in the future. I don't know how you can really quantify progress in any other manner, one person's vision of a Utopian wonderland may be a dystopian nightmare for someone else.

I will back off the argument now though since we talk about the bans here :< sorry
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 13:44:47
December 12 2012 01:18 GMT
#31102
So did anyone see kwark's video ban?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1472#29429
It was a slightly older one, i was just trying to get people back on topic.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 12 2012 01:25 GMT
#31103
On December 12 2012 10:07 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 09:00 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


Yes let's all go back to living in 11th century Turkey. Not sure if serious. People really take all the civil rights development through the 19th and 20th century for granted >_>.


Assuming my post had anything to do with Civil Rights.

11th Century Turkey saw the rise of Persian Culture and the unification of the Arab world against the Crusaders. The Seljuq Empire brought many people together, surely an eventful time to live in.

My problem with society lies in the direction it is heading. Radio's playing the same repetitive message, television controlling the mindless masses, interpersonal communication breaking down, and the rise of people's wants misconstrued as needs.

People following the beaten path, doing so because they are told it is the moral way, the correct way.

Countless prescriptions to cure problems we don't have, countless self-help books promising to help change you into something better.

Sea's of people drown into apathy from the broken promise of grandeur followed by the slow realization that it was fairy-tales. The loss of all pride in their work, hatred of work and school.

Most importantly the destruction of lasting social ties. People going threw life believing that your self-worth is tied to what you own, how many partners you've had, where you live. The abundance of people thats led to a grass is greener mentality.

Our society is one where divorce is in fashion, people trained to believe in woman as objects of lust, greed taking over all reason, people doing selfless deeds not out of care, but because they were told it looks good on a job and college application. Tunnel vision on the advancement of Civil Rights doesn't change the rest of society going to crap.


Read the mod note. Not the one at the top of the thread you're arguing about in the wrong place.

The mod note of the ABL. For the love of the bangods, keep it outta here!
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 01:27 GMT
#31104
On December 12 2012 10:25 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:07 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:00 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


Yes let's all go back to living in 11th century Turkey. Not sure if serious. People really take all the civil rights development through the 19th and 20th century for granted >_>.


Assuming my post had anything to do with Civil Rights.

11th Century Turkey saw the rise of Persian Culture and the unification of the Arab world against the Crusaders. The Seljuq Empire brought many people together, surely an eventful time to live in.

My problem with society lies in the direction it is heading. Radio's playing the same repetitive message, television controlling the mindless masses, interpersonal communication breaking down, and the rise of people's wants misconstrued as needs.

People following the beaten path, doing so because they are told it is the moral way, the correct way.

Countless prescriptions to cure problems we don't have, countless self-help books promising to help change you into something better.

Sea's of people drown into apathy from the broken promise of grandeur followed by the slow realization that it was fairy-tales. The loss of all pride in their work, hatred of work and school.

Most importantly the destruction of lasting social ties. People going threw life believing that your self-worth is tied to what you own, how many partners you've had, where you live. The abundance of people thats led to a grass is greener mentality.

Our society is one where divorce is in fashion, people trained to believe in woman as objects of lust, greed taking over all reason, people doing selfless deeds not out of care, but because they were told it looks good on a job and college application. Tunnel vision on the advancement of Civil Rights doesn't change the rest of society going to crap.


Read the mod note. Not the one at the top of the thread you're arguing about in the wrong place.

The mod note of the ABL. For the love of the bangods, keep it outta here!


Bans for the ban god! Tears for the tear bucket!
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 12 2012 01:31 GMT
#31105
Yes, observe the mod note or bans will start flying out.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
December 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#31106
Getting back to the topic at hand.......

JimmyJRaynor was just temp banned for 1 week by GHOSTCLAW.

That account was created on 2010-04-11 22:42:46 and had 1170 posts.

Reason: warned for continually bashing NASL without posting anything truly constructive....and then you keep doing it. Maybe this isn't the place for you.

May this particular Randroid with an intense dislike for the NASL rest in 1 week peace. If only he were more selfish
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#31107
On December 12 2012 10:34 farvacola wrote:
Getting back to the topic at hand.......

Show nested quote +
JimmyJRaynor was just temp banned for 1 week by GHOSTCLAW.

That account was created on 2010-04-11 22:42:46 and had 1170 posts.

Reason: warned for continually bashing NASL without posting anything truly constructive....and then you keep doing it. Maybe this isn't the place for you.

May this particular Randroid with an intense dislike for the NASL rest in 1 week peace. If only he were more selfish


That name seemed familiar to me for some reason, then I looked up his post history and its mostly just baseball and hockey related, huh...
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
December 12 2012 01:50 GMT
#31108
On December 12 2012 10:47 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:34 farvacola wrote:
Getting back to the topic at hand.......

JimmyJRaynor was just temp banned for 1 week by GHOSTCLAW.

That account was created on 2010-04-11 22:42:46 and had 1170 posts.

Reason: warned for continually bashing NASL without posting anything truly constructive....and then you keep doing it. Maybe this isn't the place for you.

May this particular Randroid with an intense dislike for the NASL rest in 1 week peace. If only he were more selfish


That name seemed familiar to me for some reason, then I looked up his post history and its mostly just baseball and hockey related, huh...

On December 08 2012 06:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Ayn Rand was America's most important intellectual of the 20th century.

I'll let that speak for itself.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 12 2012 02:40 GMT
#31109
On December 12 2012 10:50 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:47 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 10:34 farvacola wrote:
Getting back to the topic at hand.......

JimmyJRaynor was just temp banned for 1 week by GHOSTCLAW.

That account was created on 2010-04-11 22:42:46 and had 1170 posts.

Reason: warned for continually bashing NASL without posting anything truly constructive....and then you keep doing it. Maybe this isn't the place for you.

May this particular Randroid with an intense dislike for the NASL rest in 1 week peace. If only he were more selfish


That name seemed familiar to me for some reason, then I looked up his post history and its mostly just baseball and hockey related, huh...

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 06:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Ayn Rand was America's most important intellectual of the 20th century.

I'll let that speak for itself.

I guess he should stick with sports...
Zest fanboy.
CyDe
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1010 Posts
December 12 2012 04:01 GMT
#31110
What the hell... did every ban in the ABL always have a timestamp on it? Did I seriously just never notice? What the fuck. That seriously rocked my world to the core. I don't even know what to do with my life anymore, I'm undergoing an existential nightmare.
youtube.com/GamingCyDe-- My totally abandoned youtube channel that I might revisit at some point
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 05:16 GMT
#31111
On December 12 2012 13:01 CyDe wrote:
What the hell... did every ban in the ABL always have a timestamp on it? Did I seriously just never notice? What the fuck. That seriously rocked my world to the core. I don't even know what to do with my life anymore, I'm undergoing an existential nightmare.


Have you been banned before? This is a bit of an over reaction.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
December 12 2012 06:59 GMT
#31112
On December 12 2012 14:16 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 13:01 CyDe wrote:
What the hell... did every ban in the ABL always have a timestamp on it? Did I seriously just never notice? What the fuck. That seriously rocked my world to the core. I don't even know what to do with my life anymore, I'm undergoing an existential nightmare.


Have you been banned before? This is a bit of an over reaction.

Cyde is usually like that
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
December 12 2012 07:32 GMT
#31113
On December 12 2012 15:59 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 14:16 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 13:01 CyDe wrote:
What the hell... did every ban in the ABL always have a timestamp on it? Did I seriously just never notice? What the fuck. That seriously rocked my world to the core. I don't even know what to do with my life anymore, I'm undergoing an existential nightmare.


Have you been banned before? This is a bit of an over reaction.

Cyde is usually like that

LOL. That made me laugh more than it should have.
There is no one like you in the universe.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
December 12 2012 09:30 GMT
#31114
Somebody stickied the UK gay marriage thread, I smell a plot!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
December 12 2012 11:27 GMT
#31115
On December 12 2012 10:18 Jaaaaasper wrote:
So did anyone see kwark's video ban?

No, but I kind of want to.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43232 Posts
December 12 2012 11:37 GMT
#31116
Wasn't me, I'm at work, not moderating shit right now.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 13:40:32
December 12 2012 13:39 GMT
#31117
Even wax is in doubt now.

On December 12 2012 17:41 Waxangel wrote:
what is this, a blatant trap set by kwark?


edit: also, a suprising amount of ABL locals in that thread. Living on the edge, right?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
December 12 2012 16:05 GMT
#31118
UnholyRai was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2010-09-25 11:09:10 and had 697 posts.

Reason: This is not the proper way to respond to a warning.

Show nested quote +
got warned for that, didn't realise that you aren't allowed to agree with someones' view in nazi-occupied poland.

I am baffled by what UnholyRai said. Do you think he meant "disagree"? Or is he suggesting that in Nazi-occupied Poland everyone was required to have unique opinions and any form of agreement was forbidden?

After checking out his post history it seems he really did mean "agree" :o
On December 13 2012 00:11 UnholyRai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 23:19 UnholyRai wrote:
On December 12 2012 20:14 SfynX wrote:
Rain, Life and Scarlett

this.

User was warned for this post

I got warned for that, didn't realise that you aren't allowed to agree with someones' view in nazi-occupied poland.

User was temp banned for this post.

I think he has an unusual idea of what Nazi-occupied Poland was like...
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 16:21 GMT
#31119
On December 13 2012 01:05 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
UnholyRai was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2010-09-25 11:09:10 and had 697 posts.

Reason: This is not the proper way to respond to a warning.

got warned for that, didn't realise that you aren't allowed to agree with someones' view in nazi-occupied poland.

I am baffled by what UnholyRai said. Do you think he meant "disagree"? Or is he suggesting that in Nazi-occupied Poland everyone was required to have unique opinions and any form of agreement was forbidden?

After checking out his post history it seems he really did mean "agree" :o
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 00:11 UnholyRai wrote:
On December 12 2012 23:19 UnholyRai wrote:
On December 12 2012 20:14 SfynX wrote:
Rain, Life and Scarlett

this.

User was warned for this post

I got warned for that, didn't realise that you aren't allowed to agree with someones' view in nazi-occupied poland.

User was temp banned for this post.

I think he has an unusual idea of what Nazi-occupied Poland was like...


+1 or "this" posts aren't acceptable as contributing posts even if they are in agreement on TL, and it's a bad idea to call the Mods Nazi's =P
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
December 12 2012 16:40 GMT
#31120
On December 13 2012 01:21 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:05 Melliflue wrote:
UnholyRai was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2010-09-25 11:09:10 and had 697 posts.

Reason: This is not the proper way to respond to a warning.

got warned for that, didn't realise that you aren't allowed to agree with someones' view in nazi-occupied poland.

I am baffled by what UnholyRai said. Do you think he meant "disagree"? Or is he suggesting that in Nazi-occupied Poland everyone was required to have unique opinions and any form of agreement was forbidden?

After checking out his post history it seems he really did mean "agree" :o
On December 13 2012 00:11 UnholyRai wrote:
On December 12 2012 23:19 UnholyRai wrote:
On December 12 2012 20:14 SfynX wrote:
Rain, Life and Scarlett

this.

User was warned for this post

I got warned for that, didn't realise that you aren't allowed to agree with someones' view in nazi-occupied poland.

User was temp banned for this post.

I think he has an unusual idea of what Nazi-occupied Poland was like...


+1 or "this" posts aren't acceptable as contributing posts even if they are in agreement on TL, and it's a bad idea to call the Mods Nazi's =P

I understand why he received the initial warning and why he was banned, but I don't understand why UnholyRai would reply to the warning the way he did =P He must not have understood why he was warned, or he was being intentionally misleading about why he was warned. It just seems like a massive overreaction, as well as a bizarre interpretation of history, that Nazi's would not tolerate agreement. And he also complained about his warning in the same thread, which has got many posters into trouble before. It was as though he was trying to get banned
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