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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43222 Posts
December 11 2012 23:07 GMT
#31081
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 23:10:02
December 11 2012 23:09 GMT
#31082
interesting subject yes, quite hard to discuss with people thou. to me it looks like when ever you bring up religion in an argument people get really really angry and post really really stupid stuff
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
December 11 2012 23:21 GMT
#31083
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?


It's because they're always to be taken seriously, am I right? ;-P

On December 12 2012 08:02 KwarK wrote:
I don't actually deal with reports, so many of them are for SC2 nonsense. I take a look every now and then but only if I've missed a dozen pages of a general forum topic and want to retroactively moderate it. Most of my moderation happens as I read general or in response to PMs about specific issues.


KwarK, the Front-Line Moderator. Doesn't settle for mere deskwork; likes to be in the epicenter of the action, pulsing waves of justice through the tectonic rifts caused by faulty comments. Can see through extraneous noise, stack together ban upon ban in a single condensed and clearly-recorded section, and is the proactive source that quells seismic disturbances, rather than the passive receiver who waits for the formal report.

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Hidden geophysics entendre count: 11. See if you can find them all.
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I'm still reeling from the Seismic Interpretation exam I had last week. Sorry. X-D
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
December 11 2012 23:22 GMT
#31084
On December 12 2012 07:44 KwarK wrote:
I don't think it's especially bantrappy, people just have to read the OP and the mod note and work out that it's about the specifics of the bill and the implications of the bill regarding the role of the state and the rights of private and religious institutions in a secular society.

When has that ever happened.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 11 2012 23:24 GMT
#31085
On December 12 2012 08:22 imallinson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 07:44 KwarK wrote:
I don't think it's especially bantrappy, people just have to read the OP and the mod note and work out that it's about the specifics of the bill and the implications of the bill regarding the role of the state and the rights of private and religious institutions in a secular society.

When has that ever happened.

Yeah, it doesn't even happen in this thread which is once again evident from the conversation on the last page.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 23:26:48
December 11 2012 23:25 GMT
#31086
the thread was quite fine before i left for an appointment. has it devolved since i left? some of the people (including kwark) bring up interesting issues, and at least i was having a personally thought-provoking discussion.

edit: oh, the streak of red on the last page..... =(
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
December 11 2012 23:35 GMT
#31087
Bobgrimly was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK.

That account was created on 2010-07-08 12:01:29 and had 204 posts.

Reason: 03:53: You start an argument about religious doctrine in a topic on which it has no bearing on a forum where it is unwelcome.
03:59: The argument begins

*****SUDDENLY******
On December 12 2012 04:08 KwarK wrote:
Guys, whether or not God hates fags is not going to be decided by you shitting up my topic. Take it to PMs, it's simply not relevant to whether or not religions have the right to discriminate.


07:50: You continue the argument in the same topic.

*****SUDDENLY*****
banned

I'm just going to pretend he was banned for insulting my reading comprehension
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
December 11 2012 23:47 GMT
#31088
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 11 2012 23:51 GMT
#31089
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


No it doesn't!
shikata ga nai
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
December 11 2012 23:58 GMT
#31090
On December 12 2012 08:51 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


No it doesn't!


Personally I think society has only made progress in food. Just imagine the world before bacon. Now be thankful, yea.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 00:00 GMT
#31091
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


Yes let's all go back to living in 11th century Turkey. Not sure if serious. People really take all the civil rights development through the 19th and 20th century for granted >_>.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 12 2012 00:02 GMT
#31092
That's a pretty interesting question which I'm not sure I want to answer, but I must say this is complicated philosophy for this thread^^
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 12 2012 00:05 GMT
#31093
I was just making a joke. It's amusing if you take what he said as a complete sentence, as opposed to a fragment
shikata ga nai
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 00:08 GMT
#31094
On December 12 2012 09:05 sam!zdat wrote:
I was just making a joke. It's amusing if you take what he said as a complete sentence, as opposed to a fragment


Society does make progress by providing the social atmosphere and zeitgeist to facilitate social change, whether you take that collective of human will as reactionary to individual thought or proactive as a consciousness of its own is up to debate.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 12 2012 00:09 GMT
#31095
I don't want to argue about this because this is a topic near and dear to my heart and I have complicated opinions about it. I just want us to appreciate the hilarious sentence "Implying Society makes progress."
shikata ga nai
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
December 12 2012 00:14 GMT
#31096
On December 12 2012 09:09 sam!zdat wrote:
I don't want to argue about this because this is a topic near and dear to my heart and I have complicated opinions about it. I just want us to appreciate the hilarious sentence "Implying Society makes progress."

Does it involve Hannah Arendt ?
ANd I finally got what you meant, I'm happy^^
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
December 12 2012 01:07 GMT
#31097
On December 12 2012 09:00 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


Yes let's all go back to living in 11th century Turkey. Not sure if serious. People really take all the civil rights development through the 19th and 20th century for granted >_>.


Assuming my post had anything to do with Civil Rights.

11th Century Turkey saw the rise of Persian Culture and the unification of the Arab world against the Crusaders. The Seljuq Empire brought many people together, surely an eventful time to live in.

My problem with society lies in the direction it is heading. Radio's playing the same repetitive message, television controlling the mindless masses, interpersonal communication breaking down, and the rise of people's wants misconstrued as needs.

People following the beaten path, doing so because they are told it is the moral way, the correct way.

Countless prescriptions to cure problems we don't have, countless self-help books promising to help change you into something better.

Sea's of people drown into apathy from the broken promise of grandeur followed by the slow realization that it was fairy-tales. The loss of all pride in their work, hatred of work and school.

Most importantly the destruction of lasting social ties. People going threw life believing that your self-worth is tied to what you own, how many partners you've had, where you live. The abundance of people thats led to a grass is greener mentality.

Our society is one where divorce is in fashion, people trained to believe in woman as objects of lust, greed taking over all reason, people doing selfless deeds not out of care, but because they were told it looks good on a job and college application. Tunnel vision on the advancement of Civil Rights doesn't change the rest of society going to crap.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 12 2012 01:09 GMT
#31098
That's some pretty hardcore nostalgia fallacy going on there.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 12 2012 01:10 GMT
#31099
lol I make fun of the guy and then it turns out he's kinda on my wavelength

I feel like we should observe the content-free sanctity of ABL however
shikata ga nai
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
December 12 2012 01:16 GMT
#31100
On December 12 2012 10:07 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 09:00 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:47 Jisall wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:
On December 12 2012 08:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:
lol, I'm not touching that thread with a ten foot pole. But I'll be browsing it for ABL material I suppose. It's claimed it's first perm victim.

On December 12 2012 07:44 redserpent wrote:
the world is really coming to an end if people really think to approve such abominations,i mean really,its not natural guys,its not how we (humans) were created in the first place. i am not supporting gay marriage

User was banned for a catastrophic failure to read the topic, understand the purpose of it and read the mod note.


Five posts. We hardly knew ye...

Is it just me, or does it seem like Romanians have a much higher perm rate?

It's really not about questions of faith or even gay rights really, it's about how a religion exists and operates within a secular society. In the context of UK laws this bill would see a fundamental change by essentially allowing religious organisations to opt out of the progress the rest of society makes with a unique grant of immunity. It's an interesting subject imo.


Implying Society makes progress.


Yes let's all go back to living in 11th century Turkey. Not sure if serious. People really take all the civil rights development through the 19th and 20th century for granted >_>.


Assuming my post had anything to do with Civil Rights.

11th Century Turkey saw the rise of Persian Culture and the unification of the Arab world against the Crusaders. The Seljuq Empire brought many people together, surely an eventful time to live in.

My problem with society lies in the direction it is heading. Radio's playing the same repetitive message, television controlling the mindless masses, interpersonal communication breaking down, and the rise of people's wants misconstrued as needs.

People following the beaten path, doing so because they are told it is the moral way, the correct way.

Countless prescriptions to cure problems we don't have, countless self-help books promising to help change you into something better.

Sea's of people drown into apathy from the broken promise of grandeur followed by the slow realization that it was fairy-tales. The loss of all pride in their work, hatred of work and school.

Most importantly the destruction of lasting social ties. People going threw life believing that your self-worth is tied to what you own, how many partners you've had, where you live. The abundance of people thats led to a grass is greener mentality.

Our society is one where divorce is in fashion, people trained to believe in woman as objects of lust, greed taking over all reason, people doing selfless deeds not out of care, but because they were told it looks good on a job and college application. Tunnel vision on the advancement of Civil Rights doesn't change the rest of society going to crap.

Do you measure your life in coffee spoons?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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