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Lalalaland34483 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:19 KwarK wrote:
The context of this is him getting into an argument where he repeatedly called for the other guy to be banned. I gave him a warning for something completely unrelated (failure to fact check despite topic rules) and gave the other guy a one week ban. He then sent me that PM telling me I was being massively biased against him (after I banned the guy he was calling to be banned and did nothing to him regarding the argument) and told to ban him.
He's now assuring me that he'll get my mod powers taken away and that tl is dying anyway.
Ooooh! Off to website feedback we go!
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United States41962 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. Show nested quote +ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it.
I banned the guy for doing off topic insulting your religion and I'm getting flak for it? Maybe get thicker skin, it's not like you don't worship Jesus, that makes you cultists.
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On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. Show nested quote +ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it.
What in the fuck....
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On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. Show nested quote +ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it.
Could you link the post as it's not showing up in searches yet?
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Lol I'm pretty sure daphreak is just being cheeky and people are biting, and hard. 
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On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. Show nested quote +ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it.
does that ban reason look serious to you?Really?
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On November 07 2012 05:28 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it. I banned the guy for doing off topic insulting your religion and I'm getting flak for it? Maybe get thicker skin, it's not like you don't worship Jesus, that makes you cultists.
i dont even care about their conversation, or the ban beyond the first two sentences. i had to look it up to determine what you were referring to as a cult, only to find out that it was the mormon church. referring to the mormon church as a cult is the issue, and now it appears you are referring to all religions as cults. maybe you have some semantic reason for doing so, but the common usage is insulting to religious people.
i am not mormon, or religious, btw.
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Definition of cult: a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
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On November 07 2012 05:38 Promethelax wrote:
Definition of cult: a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
yes, because thats how people use the term "cult," and that is how this guy was using the term cult in his posts... get real... it was intended to be insulting, as it is always intended to be used when referring to the mormon church.
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This is their house, the mods don't care about people being offended. Unless they are Muslims. Or gay. Or transgendered. Or...
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United States41962 Posts
On November 07 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:28 KwarK wrote:On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it. I banned the guy for doing off topic insulting your religion and I'm getting flak for it? Maybe get thicker skin, it's not like you don't worship Jesus, that makes you cultists. i dont even care about their conversation, or the ban beyond the first two sentences. i had to look it up to determine what you were referring to as a cult, only to find out that it was the mormon church. referring to the mormon church as a cult is the issue, and now it appears you are referring to all religions as cults. maybe you have some semantic reason for doing so, but the common usage is insulting to religious people. i am not mormon, or religious, btw.
Sigh, I guess this is going to be another one for website feedback. If you object to my use of the word cult then make a topic there. I would however like it noted in the OP of the topic that my feelings on the matter did not stop me banning the guy for arguing against religion. You're arguing purely about the words I used and not some systematic bias in my moderation. Let that be the end of it in this topic.
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On November 07 2012 05:40 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:On November 07 2012 05:28 KwarK wrote:On November 07 2012 05:22 dAPhREAk wrote:why would you refer to the mormon church as a cult in a ban reason? time and time again, this site has shown itself to be so religiously intolerant. it blows my mind. ayaz2810 was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.
That account was created on 2011-09-14 10:46:32 and had 490 posts.
Reason: You got a pass on the first comment because it's obviously a cult. That's not even debatable. Despite the cultist calling for your blood I ignored his protests and let your post stand. However you then decided to pursue the argument and try to defend yourself in the topic, even though you got no moderator action for the original comment. You have previous temp bans for starting off topic religion arguments, keep doing it and they'll just get longer.
Also you don't get any points for "But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread.". Don't say you're not going to do it, don't do it. I banned the guy for doing off topic insulting your religion and I'm getting flak for it? Maybe get thicker skin, it's not like you don't worship Jesus, that makes you cultists. i dont even care about their conversation, or the ban beyond the first two sentences. i had to look it up to determine what you were referring to as a cult, only to find out that it was the mormon church. referring to the mormon church as a cult is the issue, and now it appears you are referring to all religions as cults. maybe you have some semantic reason for doing so, but the common usage is insulting to religious people. i am not mormon, or religious, btw. Sigh, I guess this is going to be another one for website feedback. If you object to my use of the word cult then make a topic there. I would however like it noted in the OP of the topic that my feelings on the matter did not stop me banning the guy for arguing against religion. You're arguing purely about the words I used and not some systematic bias in my moderation. Let that be the end of it in this topic.
no point to making a post in website feedback. as you stated, i dont question your moderation, i question your "bias" in the mod notes, which were completely unnecessary. the whole cult thing is a big issue right now and everyone is fighting over it. i would hope for a little more objectivity rather than unnecessary flames.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/billy-graham-faces-backlash-over-mormoncult-removal/2012/10/24/2f9ca0c6-1e1b-11e2-8817-41b9a7aaabc7_story.html
nevertheless, i stated my peace and there is no point in objecting further since i doubt anything will be changed.
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I thought it was abundantly clear that Boraz was not really a Mormon......
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FAAAIIIIILLL!! X-D
You may find that post mind-numbing, and respectably so. I, however, find it uproariously hilarious, lol!
He's now assuring me that he'll get my mod powers taken away and that tl is dying anyway.
Wow. m-D
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here are the posts for reference. boraz also got a warning for his post, which doesnt show in the embedded quote, and later got banned, but i havent searched for that.
On November 07 2012 04:58 ayaz2810 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 04:53 Boraz wrote:On November 07 2012 04:49 ayaz2810 wrote:
Not voting personally. Makes no sense in this day and age. Candidates will say anything to get into office. I can't recall a president ever making promises, and then keeping them to the point that I actually said "wow, he did what he said he would do. I'm impressed". If you held a gun to my head, I'd probably pick Obama. Not for any good reason, just because he seems nice enough and I'm incredibly biased against Romney for his religious beliefs. I could never vote for a mormon. That's like voting for a scientologist.
Inb4 it has no impact on how the country is run. It speaks to his state of mind. Mormonism is a pretty kooky cult. And it legitimately scares me that people don't think that's a problem. Can I ask this dude get a warning? Blatantly calling a religion a kooky cult is against TL rules I believe? Cause I once posted something about a religion, not being nice about it, and I got banned. I am Mormon as well, and this "man" has personally offended me. People here so many wrong things about Mormons. If you truly went to a website that wasn't written by an anti-mormon...our religion is just like any other Christian church. We believe in God and Jesus. In the end, that's all that matters. It's called freedom of religion, and Mormonish is actually a very big religion. That is very biased you won't vote for a president because of his religious beliefs. I personally thing Obama is a muslim...but if he was running our country the way it should be run, I wouldn't care. "The founder of the movement was Joseph Smith, Jr., who was raised in the Burned-over district of Upstate New York. He claimed that, in response to prayer, he saw God the Father and Jesus Christ, as well as angels and other visions. This eventually led him to a restoration of Christian doctrine that, he said, was lost after the early Christian apostles were killed. In addition, several early leaders made marked doctrinal and leadership contributions to the movement, including Oliver Cowdery, Sidney Rigdon, and Brigham Young. Modern-day revelation from God continues to be a principal belief of the Mormon faith." "The people of western New York, like the rest of the United States at the time, were also influenced by folk religion. The fathers of both Joseph Smith, Jr. and Oliver Cowdery were reported to have used divining rods, though not by those within the LDS church. Joseph Smith reportedly used seer stones, which he used after his First Vision of Jesus Christ. People of the time used such rods and stones in various ways, including to locate underground water, to find lost items, to locate buried treasure or mineral mines, as part of religious or magic rituals, or to communicate with spirits or angels. Until about the 1830s, the use of such divining media, even as a profession, was thought by many, though not all, as "honorable and profitable employment". (Palmyra Herald, July 24, 1822)" That's all I'll say on the subject. If you know that, and you are still mormon..... you're as kooky as Romney. And to be fair, Islam is just as bad in my eyes. But, I'm not going to have a theological debate in the election thread. All I'm doing here is justifying "kooky" and "cult". User was temp banned for this post.
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United States41962 Posts
boraz's warning was specifically for calling Obama a Muslim in a topic with mod notes at the top telling people to fact check. It wasn't for his repeated calling for the ban of the guy I banned for arguing about religions. The only thing boraz is currently banned for is martyring because he felt the need to rage against the machine after I warned him for something unrelated to the argument and banned the guy he was arguing against.
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Sanya12364 Posts
Yes, Boraz tempted the fates and predictably loses.
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I like to think of tournament LR and threads about super-current events (like the election) as a sort of natural selection. They draw out all sorts of people to the threads, and the dumb ones get banned out. TL will be a much healthier community after this cleansing.
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On November 07 2012 05:19 KwarK wrote:
The context of this is him getting into an argument where he repeatedly called for the other guy to be banned. I gave him a warning for something completely unrelated (failure to fact check despite topic rules) and gave the other guy a one week ban. He then sent me that PM telling me I was being massively biased against him (after I banned the guy he was calling to be banned and did nothing to him regarding the argument) and told to ban him.
He's now assuring me that he'll get my mod powers taken away and that tl is dying anyway.
This should be fun. Is this another one for website feedback. I hope it is.
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Aww no shoutout for me  fuck it I'll go for the same gamble too because I haven't been banned yet and I'm interested.
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