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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue.

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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 27 2012 09:40 GMT
#24381
sc14s basically showed no respect for the volunteers that make the sc2 coverage articles for the members of this website, douche level overwhelming.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 27 2012 09:57 GMT
#24382
I essentially agree with what bkrow/zatic said, although it seems weird considering I am to blame for quite a bit of off-topic nonsense over time, a long with a few other people of course. I think recently we've all improved, however there's still been some unnecessary streaks of weird stuff like memes, gifs etc.

I can only really try to do my part at the moment, of course.

I think this thread is/used to somewhere where fairly straight users would post, so it would be a shame to see it degenerate to be viewed as some sub-par spam-fest by the greater part of TL where bans occur regularly for bad posting.

As for the clique thing, I'd agree. I wouldn't say that I feel superior in posting here, but I do feel at home here as opposed to any other sub-community on TL. I guess the point is that it shouldn't be about a tight-knit group that is impenetrable from the outside, but rather an open landscape where anyone is free to come in and discuss the topic at hand; whereas before it's been a small group of people, doing anything but discussing bans.

The ABL shouldn't be a scary place like the KMD, and I hope it never degenerates into something like that, although I think for a little while we've been going down the wrong path in that respect.
memes are a dish best served dank
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 10:21:39
June 27 2012 10:20 GMT
#24383
Eh believe it or not, KMD is much, much less off-topic than ABL for one. And honestly KMD isn't as bad as you think--or isn't necessarily something just to be used as an example of a scary/wrong path etc. For what it's worth, it's quite heavily moderated now and posting standards throughout the rest of the site are still enforced there. I cannot speak for everyone there but KMD's really a pretty awesome community imho and the people there are all cool.

It's hard to apply standards for discussion specifically. You're not going to get large manifestos regarding kpop and kidols or carefully-crafted posts qualifying multifarious minutiae; there are right/better paths only on a case-by-case basis for certain subcommunities and it's hard to say really the direction a community should take unless it very clearly is betraying its very purpose/roots, especially if you cannot really consider yourself a member of said community.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 27 2012 10:30 GMT
#24384
On June 27 2012 19:20 Aerisky wrote:
Eh believe it or not, KMD is much, much less off-topic than ABL for one. And honestly KMD isn't as bad as you think--or isn't necessarily something just to be used as an example of a scary/wrong path etc. For what it's worth, it's quite heavily moderated now and posting standards throughout the rest of the site are still enforced there. I cannot speak for everyone there but KMD's really a pretty awesome community imho and the people there are all cool.

It's hard to apply standards for discussion specifically. You're not going to get large manifestos regarding kpop and kidols or carefully-crafted posts qualifying multifarious minutiae; there are right/better paths only on a case-by-case basis for certain subcommunities and it's hard to say really the direction a community should take unless it very clearly is betraying its very purpose/roots, especially if you cannot really consider yourself a member of said community.


True, I'm aware that the KMD isn't really that bad, but it's still become somewhat infamous on TL, what with a page full of mod-warnings on top, etc. I just don't want the ABL to become known like that. I visit the KMD somewhat regularly, and I see that it's now become a lot better, but it's hard to shake off a reputation once you've gotten it.

Anyway, the KMD comment was just an off-handed thing, didn't mean anything hostile with it.
memes are a dish best served dank
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 10:47:34
June 27 2012 10:44 GMT
#24385
Yeah I know, I was just giving you a hard time not to mention I frequent KMD so I just felt like getting a word in on their behalf~ (whether or not it's appreciated or entirely accurate lol)

And wow, GSL LR threads have considerable rage. I never really knew because GSL games usually air too late for me to watch/read threads in the US, but now that they're live while I'm awake and the threads move considerably more slowly than MLG/DH threads for instance, you really can see what's going on :x hard to believe some of these guys aren't getting a warning for useless one-liners(TL tm)+acute desire for a cheese pairing with their wine
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
June 27 2012 11:15 GMT
#24386
On June 27 2012 19:44 Aerisky wrote:
Yeah I know, I was just giving you a hard time not to mention I frequent KMD so I just felt like getting a word in on their behalf~ (whether or not it's appreciated or entirely accurate lol)

And wow, GSL LR threads have considerable rage. I never really knew because GSL games usually air too late for me to watch/read threads in the US, but now that they're live while I'm awake and the threads move considerably more slowly than MLG/DH threads for instance, you really can see what's going on :x hard to believe some of these guys aren't getting a warning for useless one-liners(TL tm)+acute desire for a cheese pairing with their wine

It's always been an issue with GSL threads. There are many times where the threads just aren't moderated thoroughly so a lot of ppl get away with a lot of things :/
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
June 27 2012 11:24 GMT
#24387
Well the last two big off topic discussions have spawned and ABL Mafia game and a Hamster thread. One is completely off topic admitedly, but I think overall the thread has improved dramatically in the last couple of hundred pages.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#24388
in the last couple of hundred pages.

what?
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 27 2012 11:45 GMT
#24389
On June 27 2012 20:15 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 19:44 Aerisky wrote:
Yeah I know, I was just giving you a hard time not to mention I frequent KMD so I just felt like getting a word in on their behalf~ (whether or not it's appreciated or entirely accurate lol)

And wow, GSL LR threads have considerable rage. I never really knew because GSL games usually air too late for me to watch/read threads in the US, but now that they're live while I'm awake and the threads move considerably more slowly than MLG/DH threads for instance, you really can see what's going on :x hard to believe some of these guys aren't getting a warning for useless one-liners(TL tm)+acute desire for a cheese pairing with their wine

It's always been an issue with GSL threads. There are many times where the threads just aren't moderated thoroughly so a lot of ppl get away with a lot of things :/

Yeah, I've always heard of it but had never really gotten to see it. Usually I'm to excited etc to care anyway and MLG/Dreamhack LR threads move along too quickly for me to notice :3

Fortunately no bans came out of the thread so far and it seems to have cooled down, looks like we're in for a smooth ride for the rest of the group. Balance whine bans are the least exciting, usually nothing new and just sort of annoying to deal with, I can see where the mods are coming from when they say that most of the time banning people isn't really fun, just annoying and rather depressing at times :S
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 27 2012 12:03 GMT
#24390
On June 27 2012 20:24 Iyerbeth wrote:
Well the last two big off topic discussions have spawned and ABL Mafia game and a Hamster thread. One is completely off topic admitedly, but I think overall the thread has improved dramatically in the last couple of hundred pages.


Yeah, there's really no excuse at all to be off-topic here. Wait, am I going off-topic by talking about this? O_o

NoGasfOu was just temp banned for 1 week by Empyrean.

That account was created on 2012-04-03 17:15:04 and had 364 posts.

Reason: You've been warned for it many times already. Stop being such an asshole. This is not a difficult concept.


It's a shame such an excellent user name is to be claimed by what is so far a bad poster.
memes are a dish best served dank
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
June 27 2012 12:16 GMT
#24391
lvbagsca35 was just banned by vGl-CoW.

That account was created on 2012-06-27 17:20:30 and had 1 posts.

Reason: either that was a robot, or i just killed some dude who was CRAZY about air jordans

Thanks, vGi-CoW; that was my first smile of the (rather shitty) day. The ABL always comes through for me when I need it :-D.

Unfortunately, the post was nuked, so there's no way to know just how excited ol' v-bag got about his Air Jordans. It was yet another case of a ban-worthy first post landing in the 10 Commandments thread, which makes me wonder if there is some reason that bots tend to identify that thread in particular as a likely target for advertising.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 27 2012 12:18 GMT
#24392
On June 27 2012 21:16 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
lvbagsca35 was just banned by vGl-CoW.

That account was created on 2012-06-27 17:20:30 and had 1 posts.

Reason: either that was a robot, or i just killed some dude who was CRAZY about air jordans

Thanks, vGi-CoW; that was my first smile of the (rather shitty) day. The ABL always comes through for me when I need it :-D.

Unfortunately, the post was nuked, so there's no way to know just how excited ol' v-bag got about his Air Jordans. It was yet another case of a ban-worthy first post landing in the 10 Commandments thread, which makes me wonder if there is some reason that bots tend to identify that thread in particular as a likely target for advertising.

I reported the post, it was a huge wall of text about air jordans helping you walk or something, also I think most bots post there because new users are automatically guided into that thread.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:20:51
June 27 2012 12:19 GMT
#24393
On June 27 2012 21:08 vGl-CoW wrote:
every time I close a thread

it's starting to really hurt

Another nice one from the great cow in this terrible terrible thread. haha ^___^
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 27 2012 12:20 GMT
#24394
On June 27 2012 21:19 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:08 vGl-CoW wrote:
every time I close a thread

it's starting to really hurt

Another nice one from the great cow in this terrible terrible thread.

You meant to post that here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271818
Don't derail
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 27 2012 12:22 GMT
#24395
On June 27 2012 21:20 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:19 Aerisky wrote:
On June 27 2012 21:08 vGl-CoW wrote:
every time I close a thread

it's starting to really hurt

Another nice one from the great cow in this terrible terrible thread.

You meant to post that here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271818
Don't derail

Whoa wait what?! I totally forgot about that thread O_O and just assumed that miscellaenous mod actions could be posted here haha, thanks. Looks like I got ninja'd too >.<
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 27 2012 12:30 GMT
#24396
What the hell is happenning in the GSL LR thread? Ppl are being warned left and right for "theorycrafting"? Wth? Ppl dare discuss starcraft in an LR thread? oO

Seriously, though, if someone can explain me the logic going on here, I would be thankful because I'm really confused right now
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:36:52
June 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#24397
On June 27 2012 21:30 SolidMustard wrote:
What the hell is happenning in the GSL LR thread? Ppl are being warned left and right for "theorycrafting"? Wth? Ppl dare discuss starcraft in an LR thread? oO

Seriously, though, if someone can explain me the logic going on here, I would be thankful because I'm really confused right now

And what does that have to do with this thread? Make a thread into the website feedback, some of us here are actually trying to save this thread from impending doom and you are not helping.
Edit:
skaffaNL was just temp banned for 1 week by vGl-CoW.

That account was created on 2010-11-10 21:27:57 and had 10 posts.

Reason: you managed to make almost the exact same post that got you banned almost exactly 3 months ago. you're getting almost exactly the same ban, but longer

On June 27 2012 18:15 skaffaNL wrote:
crapdor and crapwolf, not even gonna watch

User was temp banned for this post.

Some people just can't grasp the concept of "no caster bashing"
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 12:35:52
June 27 2012 12:33 GMT
#24398
I read that nike shoe advert guy's post, it was just a standard copy & paste/bot post, didn't format well into TL, pretty terrible, but for some reason I found it absolutely hilarious.

Or air jordans, whatever he was advertising.
memes are a dish best served dank
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 27 2012 12:34 GMT
#24399
On June 27 2012 21:33 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 21:30 SolidMustard wrote:
What the hell is happenning in the GSL LR thread? Ppl are being warned left and right for "theorycrafting"? Wth? Ppl dare discuss starcraft in an LR thread? oO

Seriously, though, if someone can explain me the logic going on here, I would be thankful because I'm really confused right now

And what does that have to do with this thread? Make a thread into the website feedback, some of us here are actually trying to save this thread from impending doom and you are not helping.


It's not important enough to make a thread, and I was told to go ask about it where bans and warnings are discussed, which happens to be... in this thread!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 27 2012 12:40 GMT
#24400
On June 27 2012 21:30 SolidMustard wrote:
What the hell is happenning in the GSL LR thread? Ppl are being warned left and right for "theorycrafting"? Wth? Ppl dare discuss starcraft in an LR thread? oO

Seriously, though, if someone can explain me the logic going on here, I would be thankful because I'm really confused right now


Yea the mods are being a lot stricter with the warning hammer than I've ever seen in a LR thread today.
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