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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue.

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NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
July 18 2010 01:23 GMT
#2301
Kenniget is such a hero. What would tl do with out him
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
July 18 2010 06:15 GMT
#2302
With the new banlings things have gone a lot smoother, though it feels like there's more names than usual. Though, maybe it just feels like more because I don't check it as often.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 19:33:20
July 18 2010 12:17 GMT
#2303
On July 18 2010 01:17 Odinsphere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 21:15 Mikami_ wrote:
On July 17 2010 21:10 XeliN wrote:
101TFP was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-05-04 23:23:15 and had 166 posts.

Reason: Your attitude is not conducive to this website. Since you seem to have such a problem with the way we run this site, let me help you out a little bit.


I possibly have forgone the right to question any bans due to being warned and banned in the past for poor posting, or simply that users on here don't have that right irrespective, but I really can't understand the logic behind this ban.
+ Show Spoiler +

Here's his ban post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136013&currentpage=11#214

Everything about it irritates me, the vagueness of "your attitude is not conducive" the fact that his small irritation with the new implemented rules on one forum somehow equates to "such a problem with the way we run this site". Also that he seemed to make - I have no knowledge whatsoever about Google Ad Sense - a valid criticism, even supplementing it with a not greatly funny but relevant joke, but instead of addressing what he said and showing the decision to be justified he is just simply banned for having the audacity to question something that doesn't appear to make sense to him, or at least hasn't been outlined clearly.


Spoilers are probably more fitting, didn't expect to go on so.





I'm quite surprised you haven't been banned. I got irritated over my first perma ban(I got unbanned by a friend) because the banning/temp banning/ warning is very inconsistent. I came here to discuss it and squashed my entire issue but within minutes of leaving I was perma banned AGAIN. They say they give warnings out to people who post often but I've seen several people who only had like 5 or less posts get a warning for posting stuff far more horrendous than I had. It just depends on the moderator. Like someone told me, they could of dropped their lunch on themselves, got pissed, and clicked a button. Now just so everyone knows my issue is SQUASHED and I am referring to how I felt in the PAST.


If you post again about being banned previously, you will be again. Your friend who got you unbanned PMed me and apologized to me for your behaviour after you got banned AGAIN, if it gives you any insight into things.
ModeratorGodfather
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32163 Posts
July 18 2010 13:25 GMT
#2304
On July 17 2010 21:10 XeliN wrote:
Show nested quote +
101TFP was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-05-04 23:23:15 and had 166 posts.

Reason: Your attitude is not conducive to this website. Since you seem to have such a problem with the way we run this site, let me help you out a little bit.


I possibly have forgone the right to question any bans due to being warned and banned in the past for poor posting, or simply that users on here don't have that right irrespective, but I really can't understand the logic behind this ban.
+ Show Spoiler +

Here's his ban post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136013&currentpage=11#214

Everything about it irritates me, the vagueness of "your attitude is not conducive" the fact that his small irritation with the new implemented rules on one forum somehow equates to "such a problem with the way we run this site". Also that he seemed to make - I have no knowledge whatsoever about Google Ad Sense - a valid criticism, even supplementing it with a not greatly funny but relevant joke, but instead of addressing what he said and showing the decision to be justified he is just simply banned for having the audacity to question something that doesn't appear to make sense to him, or at least hasn't been outlined clearly.


Spoilers are probably more fitting, didn't expect to go on so.


I'm amazed you're here if you can't figure out why he's banned.

Questions a new, common sense rule and then makes fun of the rule/mods enforcing it. (it'ss bad enough if you're surfing at work, and it's even worse if the google ads shows some ugly pics of Korean girls that someone with very poor taste in girls dumped in the thread). Oh, then he posts an unfunny image meme to top it off

This perplexes you??
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
July 18 2010 14:11 GMT
#2305
The only post I've seen giving an explanation for the new rule mentions that it goes against Google Ad Sense ToS, specifically nudity. This guy then goes on to question the extent of the new rules saying that only thing Google prohibit is pornographic material. Now I know little to nothing about Google Ad Sense, but what I do see is someone presenting an argument, and being ignored completely, and banned under the reasoning "your attitude is not conducive" and "such a problem with the way this site is run".

It is that ^^ specifically that perplexes me.

Stating the new rule as common sense is quite stretched if not completely false imo, how can it be "common sense" if it requires an understanding of the terms and conditions of an advertising agreement TL has with Google? If I am missing some detailed explanation for why the new rules have come into place then I apologise, as far as I'm aware the most detail anyone has given is Empyrean and that was only one sentence.

I can understand how the way he criticised the mods, and then used an image macro to parody//emphasise the "joke" might not be taken very well, however.
Adonai bless
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32163 Posts
July 18 2010 15:23 GMT
#2306
It's how he criticized, not the act itself. You don't get banned for criticism if it's well thought out and articulated properly. You do get banned if your ranting and raving is idiotic, disjointed and insulting--see virtually every thread bitching about something in SC2.
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Odinsphere
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 19:33:47
July 18 2010 16:46 GMT
#2307
If you post again about being banned previously, you will be again. Your friend who got you unbanned PMed me and apologized to me for your behaviour after you got banned AGAIN, if it gives you any insight into things.



Man can't you see I'm talking about the past? I'm just discussing with people and said the whole thing was done and over with. I didn't mention you or say anything to demean mods. I'm just posting my observations. If the AGAIN pissed you off, I won't use all caps. I just like to emphasize choice words sometimes. I have a question for you sir: How come you only seem to pay attention to certain posts I make? Again I didn't realize that saying that I had been banned previously qualified as bad behavior.


[EDIT]Do you see my IP address when I post so you know exactly what thread to go through or just browse random threads and find me?
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
July 18 2010 17:08 GMT
#2308
On July 19 2010 01:46 Odinsphere wrote:
IDo you see my IP address when I post so you know exactly what thread to go through or just browse random threads and find me?


If you just search for user, it'll bring up all the their posts.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 18 2010 17:58 GMT
#2309
Mods and banlings probably do have access to posters' IP addresses. Also, if someone was previously banned and started a new account, I don't think it's reasonable to assume that this person once again has a completely blank slate once again like a new user.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 19:29:28
July 18 2010 19:24 GMT
#2310
On July 18 2010 01:17 Odinsphere wrote:
I'm quite surprised you haven't been banned. I got irritated over my first perma ban (I got unbanned by a friend) because the banning/temp banning/ warning is very inconsistent. I came here to discuss it and squashed my entire issue but within minutes of leaving I was perma banned AGAIN. They say they give warnings out to people who post often but I've seen several people who only had like 5 or less posts get a warning for posting stuff far more horrendous than I had. It just depends on the moderator. Like someone told me, they could of dropped their lunch on themselves, got pissed, and clicked a button. Now just so everyone knows my issue is SQUASHED and I am referring to how I felt in the PAST.

You were banned previously and it was a correct ban. You believe that others received warnings only for worse posts than you made. This is an entirely subjective evaluation -- there could be many reasons why a user was only warned while you were banned. Even though you perceive an inequality or hypocrisy here (we disagree with you on this), this perception does not make your conduct correct or the moderators actions unjustified.

With this post, you are painting the moderation as arbitrary, unfair, or overly oppressive. We disagreed with you, and Mods gave you reasons for why you were banned. I don't see much more to discuss about it at this point. You made several posts on your other account whining about the moderation. You only had 13 posts, but included:

P.S.-moderators please don't ban me for posting this. kthx.
...
I'd say it out loud but I might tickle a moderator's nerves again.
Yea when I signed up for TL they said feel free to express yourself and you can even swear just don't go overboard with it. I posted 3 things..two of which were pro Idra comments and I got banned. The reason the moderator left "I have my reasons". I believe mods take things too personally when it comes to banning people. I looked over my posts again and realized how ridiculous it was that I was banned. On another note..where can I find this ban list? I'm hardly on tl but this intrigues me..that is if I don't find myself banned again. Oh..did I mention it was a perma ban not a temp ban? You really gotta watch what you say on this website..if my posts had been like "idra is a fag" or "idra sucks" I'm sure I would of escaped the ban web...but alas..I did not. I asked the mod how many more people he banned on one particular subject and he never responded.
...Yea...that post. I've seen worse posts that don't get banned.

Then another 5 posts discussing your ban. The vast majority of your posts on that account (like 9 of 13 total) included some form of whining/complaining about that ban. Several Moderators reviewed that ban and agreed with it. Eventually, they got tired of it and your account was permed because you would not let it go.

Then you make a new account, and again start complaining about the same ban again, with posts like this:
On July 19 2010 01:46 Odinsphere wrote:
Man can't you see I'm talking about the past? I'm just discussing with people and said the whole thing was done and over with. I didn't mention you or say anything to demean mods. I'm just posting my observations. If the AGAIN pissed you off, I won't use all caps. I just like to emphasize choice words sometimes. I have a question for you sir: How come you only seem to pay attention to certain posts I make? Again I didn't realize that saying that I had been banned previously qualified as bad behavior.

Is it really that strange that a moderator would check your post history, see the previous account, and realize that 90% of your time is spent complaining about a ban that was justified?

I feel those that dealt with you have been tremendously patient with you. They've answered all your questions, given you reasons, and only when you refused to let it go did they take action. In this thread, we allow users to voice concerns here and we answer them. However, this is not an outlet for users to constantly rehash old bans over and over after Mods have addressed them.

You asked, we answered, you kept pushing. I think you just need to stay away from this thread. Please stop posting about the same old issue, and please stop adding passive aggressive pokes at moderation into every one of your posts. Let it go.
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Odinsphere
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 19:31:34
July 18 2010 19:29 GMT
#2311
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
July 18 2010 19:30 GMT
#2312
On July 19 2010 04:29 Odinsphere wrote:
Dude I sent manifesto a PM and apologized again. I'm not beating a dead horse. I said thats how I FELT. Not how I feel now. Where do you see me complaining in my post? I'm over that stuff. I was just telling the guy he shouldn't argue about a ban because I had already done so and it doesn't get you anywhere.

I feel I have addressed all I need to in my previous post, please stop posting about this issue.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
July 19 2010 19:19 GMT
#2313
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.
recognize me?
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 19 2010 19:43 GMT
#2314
On July 20 2010 04:19 derpaderp wrote:
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.

Anyone who was curious enough to look up a little about the incident would see that it was more than stealing a little booze. And they weren't exactly roommates.

In any case the whole mini-saga reinforced my mindset to not just trust anyone because they post on the same forums as you do.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
July 19 2010 19:55 GMT
#2315
On July 20 2010 04:43 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 04:19 derpaderp wrote:
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.

Anyone who was curious enough to look up a little about the incident would see that it was more than stealing a little booze. And they weren't exactly roommates.

In any case the whole mini-saga reinforced my mindset to not just trust anyone because they post on the same forums as you do.



can you link the thread? i searched the forums for storrzerg but i'm not finding anything
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
July 19 2010 19:57 GMT
#2316
On July 20 2010 04:19 derpaderp wrote:
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.

I will have a post explaining it within 24 hours.
Moderator
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
July 19 2010 20:02 GMT
#2317
On July 20 2010 04:55 derpaderp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 04:43 Zona wrote:
On July 20 2010 04:19 derpaderp wrote:
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.

Anyone who was curious enough to look up a little about the incident would see that it was more than stealing a little booze. And they weren't exactly roommates.

In any case the whole mini-saga reinforced my mindset to not just trust anyone because they post on the same forums as you do.



can you link the thread? i searched the forums for storrzerg but i'm not finding anything

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137133
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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
July 19 2010 20:04 GMT
#2318
On July 20 2010 04:55 derpaderp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 04:43 Zona wrote:
On July 20 2010 04:19 derpaderp wrote:
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.

Anyone who was curious enough to look up a little about the incident would see that it was more than stealing a little booze. And they weren't exactly roommates.

In any case the whole mini-saga reinforced my mindset to not just trust anyone because they post on the same forums as you do.



can you link the thread? i searched the forums for storrzerg but i'm not finding anything


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119819 (skip the first 18 or so pages) + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137133 = shitstorm
skating
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
July 19 2010 22:01 GMT
#2319
On July 20 2010 05:04 huameng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 04:55 derpaderp wrote:
On July 20 2010 04:43 Zona wrote:
On July 20 2010 04:19 derpaderp wrote:
this thread is becoming such a downer.

Whats the story with the TAD[nniilf] Semih and Loudog? Is TL policing the stealing of booze? Cause like my roommates probably deserve some punishment, but i dont think they would be too affected by a ban from TL.

Also Hot_Bid seemed to want some due process before Chill exercised his executive power, unless Chill's flexing was the result of Hot_bid's investigation.

Anyone who was curious enough to look up a little about the incident would see that it was more than stealing a little booze. And they weren't exactly roommates.

In any case the whole mini-saga reinforced my mindset to not just trust anyone because they post on the same forums as you do.



can you link the thread? i searched the forums for storrzerg but i'm not finding anything


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119819 (skip the first 18 or so pages) + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137133 = shitstorm

wow, how pathetic
RAUS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
210 Posts
July 19 2010 22:06 GMT
#2320
yeah they really strike me as miserable human beings.
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