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On June 22 2013 16:52 doktorLucifer wrote:
It's pretty much just nice perks for donating/supporting your favorite site. I mean, if I could, I'd just do it to support TL, but I got no moneys. Getting stuff for "donating" is nicer than getting "nothing" for donating, no?
I'd rather donate money so that everyone could use new, nice features, instead of just myself, cause lots of people can't afford it... They could also have made a "support TL - donation" kind of thing, where when the goal of money xy is reached, they unlock new features for anyone. Or one new thing and therefore every month or so.
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I was wondering when this would happen. I've modded many other gaming forums and this secret forum + a cool icon for a nominal 'donation' or purchase always worked without creating much drama. Glad I can support TL in another way (already own some TL Store stuff!) ggnore
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From a purely pragmatic standpoint, I've always had a sense that I 'should' be supporting TL by leaving adblock off, but then there are so many ads that are just downright aggravating. I'm glad to see this feature added so I can support the site in a way that I don't find obnoxious. I get that there are bonus perks and things for signing up, but honestly, not worrying about ads for a year on my favourite site is worth the thirty bucks to me :D
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Those yellow highlights are so annoying, give them different icons or something else.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
On June 22 2013 19:02 Ryps wrote:
Those yellow highlights are so annoying, give them different icons or something else.
yellow highlight is only for the post that got gifted all previous and subsequent posts by the posted will be normal.
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On June 22 2013 18:46 Tigi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 16:52 doktorLucifer wrote:
It's pretty much just nice perks for donating/supporting your favorite site. I mean, if I could, I'd just do it to support TL, but I got no moneys. Getting stuff for "donating" is nicer than getting "nothing" for donating, no? I'd rather donate money so that everyone could use new, nice features, instead of just myself, cause lots of people can't afford it... They could also have made a "support TL - donation" kind of thing, where when the goal of money xy is reached, they unlock new features for anyone. Or one new thing and therefore every month or so.
The money will go to making the site better. The subscription fee isn't maintaining the TL+ forum but helping the site as a whole.
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On June 22 2013 18:46 Tigi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 16:52 doktorLucifer wrote:
It's pretty much just nice perks for donating/supporting your favorite site. I mean, if I could, I'd just do it to support TL, but I got no moneys. Getting stuff for "donating" is nicer than getting "nothing" for donating, no? I'd rather donate money so that everyone could use new, nice features, instead of just myself, cause lots of people can't afford it... They could also have made a "support TL - donation" kind of thing, where when the goal of money xy is reached, they unlock new features for anyone. Or one new thing and therefore every month or so.
Generally I would agree. In this case they say it is about "serverload and bandwith". Think about it like opening this one Raid (Naxx i think?) in old WoW. Where people had to donate supplies to. The problem was, despite some hardcore user (Hardcore Raid guilds), nobody would donate, because they would never reach that endgame content. So in the end 2-3 guilds had to pay for the whole server. Same here. And what if not enough people keep donating? Then the features would be disabled again after a while, which might be silly for most users.
The way it is handled now, they could offer it at a low price (which they don`t), because only people that want to actually use this endgame content, have to pay for it.
+ Show Spoiler +
The best things in life are free anyways :p
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On June 22 2013 18:46 Tigi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2013 16:52 doktorLucifer wrote:
It's pretty much just nice perks for donating/supporting your favorite site. I mean, if I could, I'd just do it to support TL, but I got no moneys. Getting stuff for "donating" is nicer than getting "nothing" for donating, no? I'd rather donate money so that everyone could use new, nice features, instead of just myself, cause lots of people can't afford it... They could also have made a "support TL - donation" kind of thing, where when the goal of money xy is reached, they unlock new features for anyone. Or one new thing and therefore every month or so.
Who's to say these + payments aren't directly contributing to upgrades in server stability, as well as further development. Like they said, this isn't to take away anything core from main users, it's just an incentive to give something that doesn't take away from main users to those who want to contribute.
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Pretty neat idea, TL fighting!~
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Awesome. I do not see any reason why someone would be upset about this. I hope that people enjoy the extra features a keep subscribing even after the initial wave.
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Poland3775 Posts
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Donating to TL? Great idea, kinda'. I mean, if you've been here a while, you know it's a great place to be.
Yet, there are some bits of constructive criticism to discuss here. First, I've never thought "no ads" is a feature. It's the way to monetize the site. If the ads were obtrusive, people would ad block them naturally. If they do not, well, they don't bother them anyway. To cut out that revenue stream in exchange for additional revenue seems counter-productive (even if it will naturally be profitable).
Secondly, the reason why TL is such a brilliant place to be is the vibrant community that produces a ton of content. The strategy section, even if oft bemoaned, is a brilliant resource. Should a TL+ strategy sub-forum emerge, it would cut down on the actual content on both forums. The old forum would not have as many threads and the new forum would not have input from as many members. That's something that should be avoided, but if it was taken into account, there was no measure put into place to dissuade such a possibility.
Can the report button be removed from a TL+ member? Currently, if you're a bad reporter, you get the button taken away (the gods of TL know I've been close to that myself). But can you take it away if someone is paying for it? If not, does that mean some malicious users can spam reports which reduce the chance that the mods can keep TL clean and respectable as it is today?
As for everything else, godspeed, TL!
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The view-all button is the single most appealing feature. Seriously.
Kudos to the TL admins picking out appealing stuff without fucking over non-+ users. It's a fine line.
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Oh so this is why TL was 'down for maintenance' so much this past week (or was it just me? lol). Come to think about it Team Liquid as been my homepage for 6 years and barely remember it ever being 'down', everyone working behind the scenes has done an amazing job all these years. No, I don't like the direction this site has taken since SC2 but thats life, there are still many parts of this site that have made me come here every day for the past how many years. With how big the site has gotten this was a logical step, I mean 900 people watching a stream used to be a massive number for a major grand finals... Don't know what people were expecting about the features, I wouldn't use any of them and anyway its not about the features... What were they supposed to do? Make one TL+ post count as two?
I don't buy anything from outside my country or on the internet (including steam) because I don't have a credit card and even with one its a hassle over here (PayPal just recently open shop but its very very limited), so the first thing I will do when I get my own place is buy a lifetime membership which will probably be out by then, and a TL mouse-mat, and a shirt, and a hoodie... and everything ^^
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none of the features look appealing to me, that's why I'll keep my money by myself.
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I REALLY got to have this TL+, I have no money but I will sleep with anyone who gifts me it. I need a needle of tl+ in my veins right NOW
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I'm going to wait until you release TL++ then i'll go for it. 
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nice idea, but im broke T_T
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30 bucks for a year? Seems very fair. I have some other services running which offer equal possibilities at a much higher price range.
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