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17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
November 17 2011 08:53 GMT
#41
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On November 17 2011 17:49 Daniel C wrote:
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On November 17 2011 14:56 Mobius_1 wrote:
I don't have an expletive that can sufficiently describe what I think of his character. You all are welcome to try though!

Not likely for him to apologise, he's not earnest and also not manly enough to own up to his mistakes and fix what went wrong.

That said, his technical know-how is astounding. Those cables, man, cables.

Cables are ruining ESPORTS.



Yup, he says it like stepping on the wires were causing a clog in the pipes/system. hehe! I was just dumbfounded when I heard that.

I guess we could imagine a slogan should be put in every event that needs internet "DO NOT STEP ON THE WIRES! WILL CAUSE SEVERE DROP IN BANDWIDTH! ANYONE FOUND STEPPING ON THEM WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANY DISRUPTION IN THE STREAM!"

Archontas
Profile Joined September 2010
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 12:56:38
November 17 2011 08:57 GMT
#42
Well, on the bright side, now we have a replacement for the CombatEx "apology that doesn't actually apologize for anything" video.

Even after everything that happened, if he had owned up and admitted that he fucked up royally, that a lot of other people paid for his mistakes, and that he cowardly went into hiding post-tournament rather than face reality, then I'd say "time to let this go". He'd still obviously never be trusted to run a tournament again, but maybe he wouldn't forever be ostracized by the community.

This interview showed he shouldn't be put in charge of a lemonade stand, let alone a major tournament, ever again.
If you ban me, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
November 17 2011 09:05 GMT
#43
On November 17 2011 14:44 scintilliaSD wrote:
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On November 17 2011 13:33 Bananasword01 wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:12 Bigpet wrote:
Well he did say that he was in over his head with the scale of the tourney and that he overspend.
"Technically" he said "we" but we haven't heard of anybody that he delegated these tasks to, so it's got to be him.

edit: but he didn't really apologize and he did dodge almost all the questions. Also his reasoning for the bad ping was "people stepping on the LAN cables". I mean, really?

edit2: also AZKZeik was very vocal in the chat protecting Gus and saying that Dox lied, also that he'd be willing to go on LO3 to tell the truth.

AZKZeik can speak all he likes, but every sea players knows for a fact that he's a rude, shady, racist juvenile. So whatever he has to say shouldn't be taken for much worth.

DOX has nothing to gain from giving his "truth". zeik does though, consider that.

Obviously. Look at his recent tweets to Wolf:

https://twitter.com/#!/AZKziek


You can add creepy as hell to his character list from his other tweets too.
jvo
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
November 17 2011 09:23 GMT
#44
what i'm wondering is why is he still doing interviews and such, he should have already left the scene (but still should pay up)
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
November 17 2011 09:27 GMT
#45
I cant watch the interview right now.
Does he actually say anything about paying back the people who are out of money because of him?
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
November 17 2011 09:28 GMT
#46
On November 17 2011 15:35 FlyingLigerz wrote:
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On November 17 2011 15:14 magnaflow wrote:
C'mon you guys, the important thing here is he learned something. One of them being you shouldn't leave cables lying around. It may affect that 10mbps he was gunning for.



i feel bad for saying 10mbps for 32 or w/e computers is too little. standards in the Philippines are lower, so maybe 10mbps is alot. but i read the tl thread about people posting their internet speeds and how much they pay for it, and there were 3rd world countries in europe with people running on insane internet speeds, so i onno.


Where exactly are these "3rd world countries in Europe"?

I'm not aware of any.
powerade = dragoon blood
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
November 17 2011 09:35 GMT
#47
Ummm , if i can give him $1 on every ummm he says, Amanda will be out of her 12000$ debt ^_^
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
November 17 2011 09:38 GMT
#48
On November 17 2011 18:27 Blacktion wrote:
I cant watch the interview right now.
Does he actually say anything about paying back the people who are out of money because of him?


When asked, he said those are technicalities.
Thank God and gunrun.
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
November 17 2011 09:44 GMT
#49
On November 17 2011 18:28 chenchen wrote:
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On November 17 2011 15:35 FlyingLigerz wrote:
On November 17 2011 15:14 magnaflow wrote:
C'mon you guys, the important thing here is he learned something. One of them being you shouldn't leave cables lying around. It may affect that 10mbps he was gunning for.



i feel bad for saying 10mbps for 32 or w/e computers is too little. standards in the Philippines are lower, so maybe 10mbps is alot. but i read the tl thread about people posting their internet speeds and how much they pay for it, and there were 3rd world countries in europe with people running on insane internet speeds, so i onno.


Where exactly are these "3rd world countries in Europe"?

I'm not aware of any.


Moldavia, romania etc, qualify as poor countries
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
November 17 2011 09:48 GMT
#50
On November 17 2011 18:35 kellymilkies wrote:
Ummm , if i can give him $1 on every ummm he says, Amanda will be out of her 12000$ debt ^_^


LOL, exactly my thoughts. His tone of voice alone gives it all away.
good vibes only
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 17 2011 10:03 GMT
#51
On November 17 2011 14:44 scintilliaSD wrote:
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On November 17 2011 13:33 Bananasword01 wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:12 Bigpet wrote:
Well he did say that he was in over his head with the scale of the tourney and that he overspend.
"Technically" he said "we" but we haven't heard of anybody that he delegated these tasks to, so it's got to be him.

edit: but he didn't really apologize and he did dodge almost all the questions. Also his reasoning for the bad ping was "people stepping on the LAN cables". I mean, really?

edit2: also AZKZeik was very vocal in the chat protecting Gus and saying that Dox lied, also that he'd be willing to go on LO3 to tell the truth.

AZKZeik can speak all he likes, but every sea players knows for a fact that he's a rude, shady, racist juvenile. So whatever he has to say shouldn't be taken for much worth.

DOX has nothing to gain from giving his "truth". zeik does though, consider that.

Obviously. Look at his recent tweets to Wolf:

https://twitter.com/#!/AZKziek


Classy douche. Not much to say.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Superpower
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia212 Posts
November 17 2011 11:22 GMT
#52
On November 17 2011 15:44 turdburgler wrote:
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On November 17 2011 15:42 kikimama wrote:
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.



i dont see why he would step down as part of azk. i havent seen a good thing said by any of them so far, they all come across as douches.

And how many have you personally met? I was former AZK, i don't think i'm a douche and there are plenty PLENTY of awesome people i've met through AZK, some are douches, like AZKziek/ZanooKu, but there are alot more that are awesome.
Taeja <3
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
November 17 2011 11:33 GMT
#53
Superpower, if it possible, try to reach out to your former clanmates and persuade them to speak about this mess. AZK is being dragged down, purely because the only rep that has spoken are douchebags like Gus and Ziek. It is a terrible PR move to maintain radio silence and hope that this will die down on its own.
Thank God and gunrun.
Zraf
Profile Joined August 2010
54 Posts
November 17 2011 11:48 GMT
#54
On November 17 2011 20:22 Superpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 15:44 turdburgler wrote:
On November 17 2011 15:42 kikimama wrote:
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.



i dont see why he would step down as part of azk. i havent seen a good thing said by any of them so far, they all come across as douches.

And how many have you personally met? I was former AZK, i don't think i'm a douche and there are plenty PLENTY of awesome people i've met through AZK, some are douches, like AZKziek/ZanooKu, but there are alot more that are awesome.


Being formerly part of AZK, perhaps you could enlighten us with the organizational structure? I have the impression that Gus solely owns AZK, hence AZK equals Gus. I could be wrong tho, but I think that most likely is the reason why there are no statements from them.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 17 2011 12:18 GMT
#55
Yeah, that interview was kind of a joke.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
November 17 2011 12:33 GMT
#56
KeSPA ........ Need a G(lobal)eSPA pretty soon. GeSPA
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 17 2011 12:38 GMT
#57
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
why so 진지해?
AZKtezzeret
Profile Joined November 2011
Philippines1 Post
November 17 2011 12:56 GMT
#58
On November 17 2011 20:48 Zraf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 20:22 Superpower wrote:
On November 17 2011 15:44 turdburgler wrote:
On November 17 2011 15:42 kikimama wrote:
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.



i dont see why he would step down as part of azk. i havent seen a good thing said by any of them so far, they all come across as douches.

And how many have you personally met? I was former AZK, i don't think i'm a douche and there are plenty PLENTY of awesome people i've met through AZK, some are douches, like AZKziek/ZanooKu, but there are alot more that are awesome.


Being formerly part of AZK, perhaps you could enlighten us with the organizational structure? I have the impression that Gus solely owns AZK, hence AZK equals Gus. I could be wrong tho, but I think that most likely is the reason why there are no statements from them.


I am a former AZK member(need to change I.D.) and will hopefully try to clear up somethings, first as of what I know Gus is the CEO/manager of the team and "owns" the team just because he made it but I dont think he has any form of of formal ownership of it. Next most of us werent even part of the PPSL, I for one wasnt even there and didnt even have the time to watch it. Guys pls stop flaming the whole team on forums and ladder, most of us were not involved in it. Lastly, I am sorry but I cant help address the questions about the debts because I wasnt part but if you have questions I will try my best to answer them as soon as i can. Thank you .
More gg more skill- WhiteRa
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 17 2011 12:59 GMT
#59
On November 17 2011 21:56 AZKtezzeret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 20:48 Zraf wrote:
On November 17 2011 20:22 Superpower wrote:
On November 17 2011 15:44 turdburgler wrote:
On November 17 2011 15:42 kikimama wrote:
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.



i dont see why he would step down as part of azk. i havent seen a good thing said by any of them so far, they all come across as douches.

And how many have you personally met? I was former AZK, i don't think i'm a douche and there are plenty PLENTY of awesome people i've met through AZK, some are douches, like AZKziek/ZanooKu, but there are alot more that are awesome.


Being formerly part of AZK, perhaps you could enlighten us with the organizational structure? I have the impression that Gus solely owns AZK, hence AZK equals Gus. I could be wrong tho, but I think that most likely is the reason why there are no statements from them.


I am a former AZK member(need to change I.D.) and will hopefully try to clear up somethings, first as of what I know Gus is the CEO/manager of the team and "owns" the team just because he made it but I dont think he has any form of of formal ownership of it. Next most of us werent even part of the PPSL, I for one wasnt even there and didnt even have the time to watch it. Guys pls stop flaming the whole team on forums and ladder, most of us were not involved in it. Lastly, I am sorry but I cant help address the questions about the debts because I wasnt part but if you have questions I will try my best to answer them as soon as i can. Thank you .


Quick question to you and Superpower. Why did you leave?
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 17 2011 13:01 GMT
#60
That was pretty laughable, to be honest... He straight dodged everything like an oiled up politician.
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