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ItsYoungLee
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)227 Posts
November 17 2011 06:08 GMT
#21
Just listening to the way he talks and stutters and talks about being able to "back up" what he says, he's either just a horrible liar or he's just a dumbass.
ePParamedico.160 (formerly ElParamedico)
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 17 2011 06:14 GMT
#22
C'mon you guys, the important thing here is he learned something. One of them being you shouldn't leave cables lying around. It may affect that 10mbps he was gunning for.



I just don't know what to say. To be honest part of me just wants someone to pony up the amount owing and say good-bye to him and his team forever. The other part of me knows that he needs to be made an example of so future douche bags can't get away with this type of behaviour.

Even if he were telling the truth and the funds just weren't there, and he is doing everything possible to correct his mistakes I do not understand how this guy didn't know right from the start this was going to be a failure. It had disaster written all over it right from the initial thought.





FlyingLigerz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States163 Posts
November 17 2011 06:35 GMT
#23
On November 17 2011 15:14 magnaflow wrote:
C'mon you guys, the important thing here is he learned something. One of them being you shouldn't leave cables lying around. It may affect that 10mbps he was gunning for.



i feel bad for saying 10mbps for 32 or w/e computers is too little. standards in the Philippines are lower, so maybe 10mbps is alot. but i read the tl thread about people posting their internet speeds and how much they pay for it, and there were 3rd world countries in europe with people running on insane internet speeds, so i onno.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
November 17 2011 06:36 GMT
#24
The opening statement is golden. Pure gold.
Thank God and gunrun.
kikimama
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)297 Posts
November 17 2011 06:42 GMT
#25
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 17 2011 06:44 GMT
#26
On November 17 2011 15:42 kikimama wrote:
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.



i dont see why he would step down as part of azk. i havent seen a good thing said by any of them so far, they all come across as douches.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
November 17 2011 06:45 GMT
#27
On November 17 2011 15:35 FlyingLigerz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 15:14 magnaflow wrote:
C'mon you guys, the important thing here is he learned something. One of them being you shouldn't leave cables lying around. It may affect that 10mbps he was gunning for.



i feel bad for saying 10mbps for 32 or w/e computers is too little. standards in the Philippines are lower, so maybe 10mbps is alot. but i read the tl thread about people posting their internet speeds and how much they pay for it, and there were 3rd world countries in europe with people running on insane internet speeds, so i onno.


Lowest and most basic DSL speed here in Philippines is around 800kbps. Average residential speeds of the majority hit 1.2 - 1.5mbps. Lowest dedicated business line speed is 1mbps (no fluctuation).

Someone from another thread said that the PGF was streamed at the highest being 480p tops. I'm not sure how much bandwidth that needed but I'm guessing a dedicated 3-5 mbps line with only streaming connected.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
November 17 2011 06:48 GMT
#28
On November 17 2011 15:42 kikimama wrote:
People have stepped down from smaller things than this.
He needs to pay back the debts or at least have the debts transferred into his name.
He should step down as part of AZK and from any further event coordination in the sc2 gaming scene.
This is what everyone wants. It's umm the recipe for the umm pots of issues to umm go away.


I think they are pretty much covering both of their asses in the PPSL fiasco. This is first and foremost a Team AZK event with Gus at the helm as they claim. But seriously, if he was already fucking up before the event, Team AZK should have already stepped up.

One member claimed that if you tried to speak up you would be shut down or risk being removed from the group so they remained quiet. So.. I have something to say about that also but would rather not. Still waiting on AZK statement and not just a "gus" statement.
Mannified
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden27 Posts
November 17 2011 07:15 GMT
#29
wow.... AZKZeik is a real stalker
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 17 2011 07:28 GMT
#30
On November 17 2011 15:36 Primadog wrote:
The opening statement is golden. Pure gold.


Spend 5 minutes saying: "I didn't get a real chance to defend my self or present my side of the argument"

- Say nothing after that.

Like a GUS!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
November 17 2011 07:33 GMT
#31
On November 17 2011 14:44 scintilliaSD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 13:33 Bananasword01 wrote:
On November 17 2011 13:12 Bigpet wrote:
Well he did say that he was in over his head with the scale of the tourney and that he overspend.
"Technically" he said "we" but we haven't heard of anybody that he delegated these tasks to, so it's got to be him.

edit: but he didn't really apologize and he did dodge almost all the questions. Also his reasoning for the bad ping was "people stepping on the LAN cables". I mean, really?

edit2: also AZKZeik was very vocal in the chat protecting Gus and saying that Dox lied, also that he'd be willing to go on LO3 to tell the truth.

AZKZeik can speak all he likes, but every sea players knows for a fact that he's a rude, shady, racist juvenile. So whatever he has to say shouldn't be taken for much worth.

DOX has nothing to gain from giving his "truth". zeik does though, consider that.

Obviously. Look at his recent tweets to Wolf:

https://twitter.com/#!/AZKziek

wow, i hate to say it but sometimes you really can judge a book by its cover i guess. I also love the shameless and terrible game hes spitting over twitter just before his nerd rage spills out towards Wolf. what a class act. i sincerely hope he and Gus dont represent all of team AZK
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 17 2011 07:34 GMT
#32
Unless it's news of him being punished either by the law or divine intervention, I really could care less if I never heard the names Gus or AZK again. Didn't know who they were before this whole fiasco and now the only thing I know about them is they aren't worth knowing... As someone else said before, it's amazing that he can even show his face...
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 17 2011 07:54 GMT
#33
Ok well this was tthe opportunity for him to come clean and than this.......

At this point I just hope he gets punished, thrown in jail or whatever. Scamming lying scum
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
RevOrchid
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada68 Posts
November 17 2011 07:58 GMT
#34
Honestly, just leave, and never come back Gus. No one likes you, and no one ever will in this community after all this.
-Genome-
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia156 Posts
November 17 2011 08:04 GMT
#35
This interview gave a lot of credence to the 'he's not evil he just really sucks at tournament organising and being a human being' argument. It could be something to do with how well he can speak English, I'm not sure if it's his first language but wow he just seemed downright stupid. It doesn't surprise me that someone of his capacity would majorly fuck up an international tournament that required a decent amount of competence to pull off.
charliewinsmore
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
98 Posts
November 17 2011 08:16 GMT
#36
Cmon... are you guys NOT content with his Voltaire quote? I thought that excused him entirely.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 17 2011 08:32 GMT
#37
Wait he planned on running 32 computers + stream on a 10mbps down connection with I assume a much less up bandwidth? What the fuck?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 08:38:22
November 17 2011 08:34 GMT
#38
I hope someone put him to justice. Just because the Community paid the bill, doesn't mean Gus should be left scott-free.
Thank God and gunrun.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
November 17 2011 08:49 GMT
#39
On November 17 2011 14:56 Mobius_1 wrote:
I don't have an expletive that can sufficiently describe what I think of his character. You all are welcome to try though!

Not likely for him to apologise, he's not earnest and also not manly enough to own up to his mistakes and fix what went wrong.

That said, his technical know-how is astounding. Those cables, man, cables.

Cables are ruining ESPORTS.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 08:54:35
November 17 2011 08:51 GMT
#40
We had a short "meme" here in the Philippines that could relate to Gus' learning from his mistake because he didn't know.

"I was not informed!"

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A summary of the events was there was a flooded street and the guy just ran his car through it and his car floated. Instead of just accepting his mistake, he went out and passed the blame to everyone else saying "I was not informed!" He has since apologized and learned from his mistake of going off the handle from his own action. The "I was not informed" statement did stick for quite a few weeks after that aired in the news.
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