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Hello, all! It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully. Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil. Thanks, Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST. | ||
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MoYoG
Germany16 Posts
Now his attempt to infuriate his fan boys was like a final nail in his coffin. Trying to megatroll the guys who run this site and make it a fun place to read is instaban worthy imo. If he doesnt care about the community and the game, this site is about, he should look for another place to boost his ego. teamidra.net is unoppucied at the moment. Gogo fanboys. | ||
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Deja Thoris
South Africa646 Posts
On May 08 2011 18:42 Lando wrote: ya...I can just see the TL mods pointing a gun at idra's head, just waiting for those words to come out. hmm TL mods would never do something as crass as use a gun. They are going to gag him and make him wear mittens to prevent tweeting. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
On May 08 2011 06:46 hugman wrote: I wish he'd grow up There's really not more to say. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
I wish he'd get his act together, I like it when he posts here. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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SC Trickster
Denmark100 Posts
Also, hot damn at this topic reaching 57 pages lol. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
But anyway it's not like this extra ban would come as a surprise to him, he knows the rules / how tl works. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
he really should be better than this by now (im still you fan idra but WHY CANT YOU STOP DOING SHIT LIKE THAT) omg | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
however with his past bans, i could see this being the last drop. | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
On May 08 2011 10:46 chameleonism wrote: The fact remains that Idra's comment on Twitter: and Nazgul's response: shows that the mods are assuming they knew Idra's intent. It makes complete sense for Idra to tell his fans to complain if they feel the ban was inappropriate and unwarranted as this site is supposed to promote 'fairness' and 'unbiased' attitudes. If certain people spammed Chill, that was their prerogative. Also, most people know that Idra can still stream but honestly, I can see how he would not want to after all these events. Yes, he is BM all the time but he also has a huge fan base. The mods are very short tempered with him and this is understandable considering his past. However, in this case the decision to ban him seems illogical in every aspect and is based on a huge assumption that he was actually trying to get people to abuse a moderator via PMs. Idra's Twitter post was actually very tame and well-thought out imo. He didn't say "F TL or SPAM CHILL." He actually tweeted an appropriate response for his fans to follow as a result of the ban. Huge assumption?? Right... I don't think you are seeing the big picture here.... | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
The punishment ought to be based on the merit of what has been done, and not the personality of the person. And I do realize that factoring out someones personality can be quite difficult at times. The baggage is there, that cannot be questioned. But just hope people do not try to mix in their disregard for his personality along side what he had done. | ||
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
holy shit a 90 day ban. I barely survived 2. gl hf IdrA love ur insight when I was watching you stream with commentary. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On May 08 2011 18:56 Nilrem wrote: I would like IdrA a lot more if it was not for his attitude. I watched the "State of the Game" vod and when he got in it with Day[9], I just ended up cringing. I do think though that the personality of IdrA should not be the deciding factor of his punishment. I see many post talking about how he deserved this and deserved worst. Well, I think that might be going a bit too far. The punishment ought to be based on the merit of what has been done, and not the personality of the person. And I do realize that factoring out someones personality can be quite difficult at times. The baggage is there, that cannot be questioned. But just hope people do not try to mix in their disregard for his personality along side what he had done. which sotg vod was this? link? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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motiust
Australia97 Posts
However, Nazgul, i think your Chill mishandled on this one (he is not wrong with TL standards), from what Idra said in the post, i can only justify a warning and not a ban (because i can find alot of example of posts that is much worse than Idra's but only end up with a warning), maybe Chill had previous beef with Idra and knows his personality therefore to give him a straight Ban. you know, all this could of been avoid if Chill warn Greg 1st and if he carries on than the Ban wouldn't upset this many people. you see; whos the bad guy now? properly depends on who you ask but Chill would definitely on a safer side if he warn Greg 1st. | ||
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Zephy
Germany42 Posts
Regarding all the questions: SotG EP 37 was the one with the balance discussion. And the instigation to "spam" Chill can be found on his twitter. EDIT: What I've been wondering: How can you claim that IdrA actually made an offensive statement by saying that Cruncher "is a waste of time". That is pretty much exactly what it is. Nobody would stay on a FPS server with aimbotters on it. Everybody will agree that playing there is a waste of time. How come cheating isn't considered this way here as well? | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
http://itmejp.blip.tv/file/5101881/ I actually really enjoyed the vod. It was quite drama-filled. Had a debate (if you can call it that) between Day[9] and Idra; there was also a debate (or argument haha) between iNcontrol and Tyler over Eg and TL. | ||
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Gosav3122
United States8 Posts
'evoli: I’ve got another compare and contrast question for you. Can you compare and contrast the Korean Starcraft community and the foreign Starcraft community? By community I mean things like fans, players, corporate support. Are there certain aspects about living and playing in tournaments in Korea that you prefer over the rest of the world? Are there certain things you really appreciate when you play events in America or Europe? IdrA: I generally dislike both online communities, but I love the foreign fan base. " Idra doesn't care about TL, TL doesn't want him here, so they banned him for 90 days; they could perma-ban him and it really wouldn't make a difference. The only people that really care/ made this a 57 page thread are his fans ... this really should be as routine as any other ban and not worth a 10th of the attention it has been getting. So people, STOP CARING! | ||
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Tornadium
8 Posts
Huge assumption?? Right... I don't think you are seeing the big picture here.... What is the big picture? I honestly don't feel one exists, The TL mods exhibited their own version of what they think he means. If you just take the base sentance itself it is in no way promoting harrassment or spamming. Anyone who doesn't have a pre disposition towards either party will read that as "Got banned, If it upsets you go say something to the Mods. Maybe they'll change their mines". Understanding it is Idra and all, but if you're not going to take action against Cruncher because there is no conclusive evidence of him cheating then why tag idra with a 90 ban because you outright lie that he stated 1. He can't stream because he's banned from TL. He didn't, he said he won't be streaming because he's banned from TL. Two very different statements. He's doing it by choice not because you removed his stream. He openly says it right there. 2. Go harrass Chill. All he said was: "wont be streaming for 2 days as i have been banned from tl for insulting cruncher, everyone pm Chill if this upsets you". That is neither calling for harrassment or spam. Again, idra's intent is being presumed. Personally i dont have any real feelings towards or against idra. Just hate seeing biased moderation on forums. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4768 Posts
On May 08 2011 19:01 motiust wrote: Well, the TL Boss put the ban hammer on Greg but allowed his stream, i think that showed professional courtesy and Boss Mode from Nazgul. /respect! However, Nazgul, i think your Chill mishandled on this one (he is not wrong with TL standards), from what Idra said in the post, i can only justify a warning and not a ban (because i can find alot of example of posts that is much worse than Idra's but only end up with a warning), maybe Chill had previous beef with Idra and knows his personality therefore to give him a straight Ban. you know, all this could of been avoid if Chill warn Greg 1st and if he carries on than the Ban wouldn't upset this many people. you see; whos the bad guy now? properly depends on who you ask but Chill would definitely on a safer side if he warn Greg 1st. Idra has a history of temp bans and warnings on TL, and obviously every misconduct reduce the treshhold for new ones. If he wasnt a famous player he would be operma banned long time ago. | ||
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