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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:31:29
May 08 2011 09:31 GMT
#1101
The actual really interesting question is - Is Idra also banned from the relay race at Columbus?
Walkyrion
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany28 Posts
May 08 2011 09:34 GMT
#1102
omg IdrA my hero =(
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:37:32
May 08 2011 09:35 GMT
#1103
On May 08 2011 18:31 TBO wrote:
The actual really interesting question is - Is Idra also banned from the relay race at Columbus?

We have decided that for complete and informative reasons Idra will be allowed to race at Columbus.

He is however not allowed to talk to any of the participants, nor is he allowed near a phone with Twitter access.
Administrator
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 08 2011 09:38 GMT
#1104
Idra vs nazgul grudge relay race inc?
:3
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:40:04
May 08 2011 09:38 GMT
#1105
Nobody polarizes opinion like Idra. Love him or hate him he keeps things interesting.

On May 08 2011 18:35 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 18:31 TBO wrote:
The actual really interesting question is - Is Idra also banned from the relay race at Columbus?

We have decided that for complete and informative reasons Idra will be allowed to race at Columbus.

He is however not allowed to talk to any of the participants, nor is he allowed near a phone with Twitter access.


Countdown to people taking you seriously starting in 3...2...
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
May 08 2011 09:38 GMT
#1106
Huh, this thread was locked then unlocked again?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 08 2011 09:39 GMT
#1107
While I can agree too his banning for 90 days I find it hilarious at all the anti idra fans going perma ban or something lol.

Idra had it coming though, but good too see his stream will show up still.
When I think of something else, something will go here
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
May 08 2011 09:39 GMT
#1108
Wow...I haven't seen this much rage about a decision since Gom picked Kelly as a caster.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Jaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States274 Posts
May 08 2011 09:39 GMT
#1109
forum bans is one thing. but not allowing him to talk to people IRL is pushing it...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:41:42
May 08 2011 09:41 GMT
#1110
On May 08 2011 18:39 Jaw wrote:
forum bans is one thing. but not allowing him to talk to people IRL is pushing it...


the fact that you took that seriously is kind of hilarious lol. Do you really think they would stop him from talking too participants (and how would they?).
When I think of something else, something will go here
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
May 08 2011 09:41 GMT
#1111
On May 08 2011 18:39 Jaw wrote:
forum bans is one thing. but not allowing him to talk to people IRL is pushing it...

It was a joke..
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:42:52
May 08 2011 09:41 GMT
#1112
On May 08 2011 18:39 Jaw wrote:
forum bans is one thing. but not allowing him to talk to people IRL is pushing it...

Don't worry, we will also not allow Cruncher to watch any of the race.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Lando
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada42 Posts
May 08 2011 09:42 GMT
#1113
On May 08 2011 18:39 Jaw wrote:
forum bans is one thing. but not allowing him to talk to people IRL is pushing it...


ya...I can just see the TL mods pointing a gun at idra's head, just waiting for those words to come out. hmm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:42:54
May 08 2011 09:42 GMT
#1114
On May 08 2011 10:46 chameleonism wrote:
shows that the mods are assuming they knew Idra's intent. It makes complete sense for Idra to tell his fans to complain if they feel the ban was inappropriate and unwarranted as this site is supposed to promote 'fairness' and 'unbiased' attitudes. If certain people spammed Chill, that was their prerogative.

It's not a question of intent. The outcome of Idra's fans harassing Chill was the only reasonable outcome, and Idra should have known full well it was going to happen. And even if he somehow didn't, TL didn't 90-day ban him until talking with him--where he said he didn't regret his actions--meaning that even after the fact, with full knowledge of the outcome, he doesn't regret the harassment that occurred.
Moderator
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
May 08 2011 09:43 GMT
#1115
Whilst I'm a fan of IdrA, he's blatantly breaking the rules, and for no good reason. I thought he was starting to understand the meaning of sportsmanship, but he just keeps slipping further and further.
KuaN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States18 Posts
May 08 2011 09:46 GMT
#1116
Why did Chill ban IdrA in the first place?
"If you're going to beat somebody, you have to beat them to a pulp. To see what happens, to see what they're made of." -Kobe Bryant
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
May 08 2011 09:47 GMT
#1117
On May 08 2011 18:39 blade55555 wrote:
While I can agree too his banning for 90 days I find it hilarious at all the anti idra fans going perma ban or something lol.

Idra had it coming though, but good too see his stream will show up still.


Anti-fans are as obnoxious as fanboys... unfortunately IdrA has a lot of both.

It's a shame he's not mature enough to admit he screwed up, hopefully he won't screw over his fans who enjoy his stream because he's butthurt.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 09:50:49
May 08 2011 09:47 GMT
#1118
Idra being a douche again, TL does more for him than he does for TL, probably via income when he streams alone (lol fans of idra, he hates TL more than he likes you, don't worry, if he needs bucks he will stream again, unlikely though).

1) Legions of Idra fans shitting up threads everywhere
2) Retards the SC2 community by making impressionable kids think that it's better to balance whine at every opportunity rather than man up (I can't believe with all the support incontrol says he has he still can't get over himself)
3) Has he contributed any useful posts at all?

Everyone that talks about harsh moderation, you think b.net forums are better than TL? Really? Next time he should be out for good, it doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't behave, you're gone.

Yeah he's a great mechanical player and a great zerg but he does shit all for TL so objectively they could more than afford to do without him.
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
May 08 2011 09:47 GMT
#1119
On May 08 2011 10:58 Keone wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

I don't want to get into a blame game, so I'm not going to put blame on anyone for this issue.

But I really do want to say this. TL needs to really set a strict sense of what "moderation" and "banning" really is. The size of TL has grown to unprecedented lengths, and to be honest, something like this was bound to come up.

I personally think that currently mods are exercising their powers far too often. Of course, serious trolls, advertisers, spammers, and extremely inappropriate behavior (i.e. racism) absolutely need to be stopped and removed.

However, the more I think about this case, the more I think that things related to SC should be left alone. What I mean is that IdrA was clearly flaming Cruncher, but BM has always been a part of the game. It should be Cruncher's responsibility to deal with it like a guy should, especially as a professional SC2 player. IMO TL isn't a playground where everyone needs to hold a parent's hand everywhere they go, but it should be watched over by overseers who make sure nothing gets too out of hand. Moderation like this only incurs more anger and wrath, as people develop personal hatred and animosity towards the power that be.

As for the 90 day ban; I have mixed feelings about this. Firstly, IdrA's tweet was virtually nowhere as bad as I first expected it to be, compared to the punishment. But of course, the targeting of a mod is bad. At the same time, this was outside of TL, and lends to question what power does TL have. If someone did something mean in a LAN party, is that REALLY justification to ban him on a public forum? What if someone had said bad things about a TL mod at a party? All these questions about external issues could be endless. However, one thing is for certain; if TL mods try to continually moderate the outside world, things will get extremely tricky and dangerous for all.

The one thing I really wanted to say is this. This is obviously TL's house, so watch what you say. However, the community that it has fostered has far outgrown the reaches of the walls which once enclosed the original house. We the members of the community are your guests; however, we are not your underlings, we are not owned by TL. And in fact, the community has grown to more than just being "guests"; in essence, through our very contributions to the forums, we are now a part of TL. And though I have absolutely no love whatsoever for IdrA, this time I was disappointed by how the mods dealt with this problem. I'm not saying IdrA should get more leniency because he has helped the foreign SC community grow a lot, though indeed he has. And I'm not saying IdrA should be let off because he helped TL grow a lot, though he has. However, as a member of TL, I think we'd all like to see members be treated nicer by the mods, and given more freedom of speech. Sure, there will always be the really bad people and trolls who spam the site for no reason, but for a professional SC player like IdrA, we all know about him, we know who he is, and nothing he says will really change that. We give him crap all the time, but honestly, we don't kick him out the door because we don't really do that to people we know aren't complete trolls or idiots.

In essence, just saying the mods need to scale back their punishments on things related to SC. Again, for unrelated things like racism trolling spamming etc., by all means. But IdrA is an SC2 pro who loves to take low shots at his opponents, but essentially that's just all bark and he knows it, and only means it like that. He sure is an idiot for constantly doing it, but at the end of the day his job is SC2 and his shots at his opponents are part of the game, and his opponents (also SC2 pros) should be able to handle themselves like professionals, even if their opponent isn't.


1. As said in the OP this ban isn't directly related to the initial 2 day ban. I don't know the details of Chill's ban but it doesn't matter. What matters is that Idra tweeted for people to PM Chill about it (if someone thinks this was remotely well intentioned, you're an idiot) and didn't regret it in the slightest.

2. If it was anyone else he would have gotten perma banned about 20 times over the years. It's probably more of a call for Idra to stop acting like a piece of shit on the forums and towards the mods. Idra knows TL would be losing a valuable member by banning him, no matter how bad his attitude is and abuses it to no end.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
May 08 2011 09:48 GMT
#1120
This was probably said in the 22What do we really miss from IdrAs posting? We miss the occasional balance whine, him talking shit about a player. 90% one liners or even a few words and 10% paragraphs. remember when he was trolling with "u mad" >.> That's my most hated meme
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
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