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On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban).
Can you c/p my mod notes in this thread?
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Calgary26003 Posts
On February 14 2011 02:43 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban). Can you c/p my mod notes in this thread?
No, they're private notes for moderators to record you history. There's quite a lot in there...
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On February 14 2011 03:10 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 02:43 hifriend wrote:On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban). Can you c/p my mod notes in this thread? No, they're private notes for moderators to record you history. There's quite a lot in there...
Aw, now you've made me more curious.. Does that mean I could be perm'd at a single misstep at this point?
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Will Chill ever do something for E-sport 
maybe someone should pm him and ask
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On February 14 2011 03:25 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 03:10 Chill wrote:On February 14 2011 02:43 hifriend wrote:On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban). Can you c/p my mod notes in this thread? No, they're private notes for moderators to record you history. There's quite a lot in there... Aw, now you've made me more curious.. Does that mean I could be perm'd at a single misstep at this point?
The likelihood that you'll be banned by a misstep is small considering all commandments are angled towards intentional deterrence of the quality of the forums.
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On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban).
Are there things recorded about users that aren't directly related to disciplinary action, e.g., user Sokalo is baller or... user Sokalo appears to be mentally unstable...user Sokalo is a sad invdividual. Or is just ban stick has been swung on xx/xx/xxxx for x reason etc.?
I haven't received any bans or warnings, and like any other human I don't want to feel unnoticed  .
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On February 14 2011 06:55 Sokalo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban). Are there things recorded about users that aren't directly related to disciplinary action, e.g., user Sokalo is baller or... user Sokalo appears to be mentally unstable...user Sokalo is a sad invdividual. Or is just ban stick has been swung on xx/xx/xxxx for x reason etc.? I haven't received any bans or warnings, and like any other human I don't want to feel unnoticed .
I would imagine that the mod notes are related to moderating purposes. For example, a user who bitches about balance in LR threads might have a mod note alerting mods about those tendencies. Or, perhaps a PBU is given a mod note identifying his original account. I doubt that the admins would bother with tacking on "LOL THIS GUY IS NUTS" messages to people who post weirdly; usually, those result in bans rather than behind-the-back mockery.
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On February 14 2011 02:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 21:44 KezseN wrote:
Are there any TL staff members that DON'T play SC2 but still played BW? Me! But it's not that I have anything in particular against SC2, it's just my current computer doesn't play it all that well.
Aw that's too bad :/ Hopefully you'll get a better computer in means time
On February 14 2011 02:36 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 21:44 KezseN wrote:
Are there any TL staff members that DON'T play SC2 but still played BW? Mani..He probably has sc2, but from his posts it seems he mainly plays bw.
I think so too, he's got a family to support, not to mention there's work and the ever present trolls on the forums to ban. Those factors really does eat up a lot of time for games.
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Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On February 14 2011 07:54 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 06:55 Sokalo wrote:On February 13 2011 12:26 JWD wrote:On February 13 2011 11:40 Aeres wrote:
I suppose the TL;DR here is: Are warnings and bans put on a user's "permanent record" that cannot ever be erased or disregarded? the simple answer is yes, because all warnings and bans are recorded permanently and mods look at them before taking any other action against the warned/banned user. But — of course — the longer ago prior warnings/bans are (both in time and post count) the less important they are and the less weight mods put on them when considering a new ban. Safe to say, if you have one months-old, several-hundred-posts-old ban it's not going to make you at all susceptible to harsher mod action (maybe excepting if you've done the same exact thing that got you that old ban). Are there things recorded about users that aren't directly related to disciplinary action, e.g., user Sokalo is baller or... user Sokalo appears to be mentally unstable...user Sokalo is a sad invdividual. Or is just ban stick has been swung on xx/xx/xxxx for x reason etc.? I haven't received any bans or warnings, and like any other human I don't want to feel unnoticed . I would imagine that the mod notes are related to moderating purposes. For example, a user who bitches about balance in LR threads might have a mod note alerting mods about those tendencies. Or, perhaps a PBU is given a mod note identifying his original account. I doubt that the admins would bother with tacking on "LOL THIS GUY IS NUTS" messages to people who post weirdly; usually, those result in bans rather than behind-the-back mockery.
We definitely do use mod notes for various potential need-to-know type items. I don't want to go into too many specifics, but it can't be used to note patterns or behaviors we've noticed, track identities, specify who may be working with a user regarding a moderation issue, etc., or just other things that we may want our peers to know about a person.
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Are the amish immune to R1CH's magical powers?
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Pardon if it's already been asked but I was wondering what the longest thread on TL is. This is excluding the automated banlist because 10000+ seems hard to beat.
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United States11393 Posts
On February 14 2011 02:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 21:44 KezseN wrote:
Are there any TL staff members that DON'T play SC2 but still played BW? Me! But it's not that I have anything in particular against SC2, it's just my current computer doesn't play it all that well.
Yeah, my computer can't play it either so I still play BW.
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On February 14 2011 15:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Pardon if it's already been asked but I was wondering what the longest thread on TL is. This is excluding the automated banlist because 10000+ seems hard to beat.
the nsfw pic thread was almost double that, but I think the longest might be the DotA thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=64016
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I was just wondering, does only post count matter when deciding for warnings etc..., or would a 50 serious, detailed poster be viewed better than a 1000 post person who only posts in the OP/UP (as a troll) or the funny joke threads?
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On February 15 2011 02:06 moltenlead wrote:
I was just wondering, does only post count matter when deciding for warnings etc..., or would a 50 serious, detailed poster be viewed better than a 1000 post person who only posts in the OP/UP (as a troll) or the funny joke threads?
As a general rule, post count doesn't mean shit. For example, CharlieMurphy had over 22,000 posts when he finally got perma-banned, and his mod notes list of warnings and bans was absolutely massive. If you're a shitty poster, having a lot of posts doesn't change the fact that you're a shitty poster. I can assure you that each and every mod and admin on the site would rather have an insightful, intelligent poster with 200 posts over two years than a 6,000 post-spamming troll who contributes next to nothing.
That being said, the Commandments do state that forum veterans are treated with more deference than newer users, and post count is part of determining veterancy. However, it's safe to assume that warnings are given out when they are merited, and post count won't change that (unless you're Rekrul).
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Do the mods ever have 'round table' discussions before banning (permanently) long-standing users? Or is it just a case of allowing anyone to ban anyone for anything at any time without discussion?
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United States12607 Posts
On February 15 2011 02:28 sc4k wrote:
Do the mods ever have 'round table' discussions before banning (permanently) long-standing users?
Yes, every major permban is the result of discussion between all of the mods.
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United States7481 Posts
On February 14 2011 16:43 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 15:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Pardon if it's already been asked but I was wondering what the longest thread on TL is. This is excluding the automated banlist because 10000+ seems hard to beat. the nsfw pic thread was almost double that, but I think the longest might be the DotA thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=64016
I think the 2nd LoL thread was longer than that.
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On February 15 2011 02:19 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2011 02:06 moltenlead wrote:
I was just wondering, does only post count matter when deciding for warnings etc..., or would a 50 serious, detailed poster be viewed better than a 1000 post person who only posts in the OP/UP (as a troll) or the funny joke threads? As a general rule, post count doesn't mean shit. For example, CharlieMurphy had over 22,000 posts when he finally got perma-banned, and his mod notes list of warnings and bans was absolutely massive. If you're a shitty poster, having a lot of posts doesn't change the fact that you're a shitty poster. I can assure you that each and every mod and admin on the site would rather have an insightful, intelligent poster with 200 posts over two years than a 6,000 post-spamming troll who contributes next to nothing. That being said, the Commandments do state that forum veterans are treated with more deference than newer users, and post count is part of determining veterancy. However, it's safe to assume that warnings are given out when they are merited, and post count won't change that (unless you're Rekrul).
If post counts matter as much as they would, I'd be a king ;D!
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