EPTI love how Infinitestory's quote literally just says "Yep" as if in complete agreement, as he has nothing of his own to say. LOL
How many R1CHes did it take to code that poll?
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
I love how Infinitestory's quote literally just says "Yep" as if in complete agreement, as he has nothing of his own to say. LOL How many R1CHes did it take to code that poll? | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On May 06 2011 04:27 rolfe wrote: since the sotg thread reached 1000pages i gotta wonder, whats the longest thread on TL? I believe it is the Korean Music Discussion thread, The SOTG, or the Anime discussion Thread Links: Respectively http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94273 | ||
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rolfe
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On May 06 2011 04:29 Kinetik_Inferno wrote: I believe it is the Korean Music Discussion thread, The SOTG, or the Anime discussion Thread Links: Respectively http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98009 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94273 TY  | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9530 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129727 In fact, it's longer than all of those even though it has been closed for months! | ||
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Nivyan
Denmark42 Posts
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NibbloniaN
United States377 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:47 Nivyan wrote: Since teamliquid.net have grown to be the site for SC2 - doesn't the TL staff feel they might want to be more open-minded and think about the community more than thinking of these forums as 'their house' ? I hope not, I like their house the way it is | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:47 Nivyan wrote: Since teamliquid.net have grown to be the site for SC2 - doesn't the TL staff feel they might want to be more open-minded and think about the community more than thinking of these forums as 'their house' ? Which community are you talking about? The community of people that love and enjoy Teamliquid, or the community of people who are banned from Teamliquid because they weren't mature enough to hold up their end of a conversation? Teamliquid thinks about 'the community' all the time. In fact, it's staffed by people from 'the community', That's why TL runs events like the TSL and TLAttack, and why TL continues to improve and provide more and more content and services every month. If you have ideas about how Teamliquid could better cater to 'the community', then you should hit up the website feedback forum. | ||
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
On May 06 2011 09:47 Nivyan wrote: Since teamliquid.net have grown to be the site for SC2 - doesn't the TL staff feel they might want to be more open-minded and think about the community more than thinking of these forums as 'their house' ? Do you know the reason TL has grown to be the site for SC2? Because of our history, culture, and quality standards. I don't think you realize how much TL has changed since the announcement of SC2 to accommodate newer users who may not have a BW background. But, you also have to realize that because we have quality standards, we aren't going to take any nonsense from trolls/flamers/stupid posters. That's how we keep our image as the site you go to when you want reliable, professional, no-nonsense news/discussion/whatever relating to SC2. One of the things that's so attractive about TL is that the members of the community are people you can count on to be mature, rational, and intelligent (most of the time), which is pretty refreshing when you consider how quickly other forums degenerate into senseless posts. So yes, this is "our house." A long time ago, I read the TL commandments and respected this place as "their house." I was a new user, a visitor to the site, and not yet a part of the community. But through years of contributing to and being a part of this site, it's become "my house" as well. And that's the way it should be. It's how we separate the trollers/flamers/stupid posters from those who come here legitimately wanting to be a part of the community. So if by "open-minded" and "think about the community more," you mean TL should do its best to accommodate new users, I think we're already doing our part: in no way do we discriminate against new users, try to keep them from posting, or try to belittle their posts. In fact, we encourage new users who have something meaningful to say to say it. But if by "open-minded" and "think about the community more," you mean TL should allow whomever to post whatever they want, I'm sorry but TL's not going to become 4chan. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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Nivyan
Denmark42 Posts
On May 06 2011 13:38 Saracen wrote: Note: my comments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the TL staff. Do you know the reason TL has grown to be the site for SC2? Because of our history, culture, and quality standards. I don't think you realize how much TL has changed since the announcement of SC2 to accommodate newer users who may not have a BW background. But, you also have to realize that because we have quality standards, we aren't going to take any nonsense from trolls/flamers/stupid posters. That's how we keep our image as the site you go to when you want reliable, professional, no-nonsense news/discussion/whatever relating to SC2. One of the things that's so attractive about TL is that the members of the community are people you can count on to be mature, rational, and intelligent (most of the time), which is pretty refreshing when you consider how quickly other forums degenerate into senseless posts. So yes, this is "our house." A long time ago, I read the TL commandments and respected this place as "their house." I was a new user, a visitor to the site, and not yet a part of the community. But through years of contributing to and being a part of this site, it's become "my house" as well. And that's the way it should be. It's how we separate the trollers/flamers/stupid posters from those who come here legitimately wanting to be a part of the community. So if by "open-minded" and "think about the community more," you mean TL should do its best to accommodate new users, I think we're already doing our part: in no way do we discriminate against new users, try to keep them from posting, or try to belittle their posts. In fact, we encourage new users who have something meaningful to say to say it. But if by "open-minded" and "think about the community more," you mean TL should allow whomever to post whatever they want, I'm sorry but TL's not going to become 4chan. Thank you for your reply. I highly respect and enjoy your feelings and the work you put up in separating the trolls/flamers from the masses. And I think anyone would agree that that's a good thing. I'm more talking about how the staff handled the whole EG tournament thing in which you, the tl staff, made it sound like people shouldn't be doing PR in 'your house'. - The discussion is old as hell, but even the suggestion that TL shouldn't love EG putting out their tournament on their site - TL being a part of it or not - is horrible for the community (the sc2 one) Also, I'd think must of us can agree we love the moderation in general - but I feel that the bans themselves can be pretty biased - I'd just like to know what you can do, as a innocent bystander, to talk about this without getting banned themselves? Because this is the feelings I get when I observe some pretty unjustified bans. | ||
KwarK
United States43779 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:58 Nivyan wrote: Also, I'd think must of us can agree we love the moderation in general - but I feel that the bans themselves can be pretty biased - I'd just like to know what you can do, as a innocent bystander, to talk about this without getting banned themselves? Because this is the feelings I get when I observe some pretty unjustified bans. First look in the automated ban thread in the closed forum to see the ban reason. If that doesn't help then you can pm the mod who banned him and ask. If their reasons are inadequate then you can create a website feedback topic to voice your concerns, complete with evidence and suggestions. What I highly recommend you don't do is make a topic in the general forum called "TL MODS = NAZIS" with just one line stating "They'll ban me for saying it". | ||
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Puosu
7010 Posts
Also, I'd think must of us can agree we love the moderation in general - but I feel that the bans themselves can be pretty biased - I'd just like to know what you can do, as a innocent bystander, to talk about this without getting banned themselves? Because this is the feelings I get when I observe some pretty unjustified bans. I don't think we've ever or ever will ban anyone for criticizing any of the moderation we do, as long as it's done properly. In fact we take in every ounce of solid advice with appreciation. Remember that a lot more goes into banning than writing a ban reason and clicking buttons, there's discussion and thorough observation of the user's history that needs to be done before committing. This is something that the average forum goer doesn't really get to see, but I assure you we aren't just 1a2a3a'ing our way into increasing our ban count. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On May 06 2011 20:33 Puosu wrote: I don't think we've ever or ever will ban anyone for criticizing any of the moderation we do, as long as it's done properly. In fact we take in every ounce of solid advice with appreciation. Remember that a lot more goes into banning than writing a ban reason and clicking buttons, there's discussion and thorough observation of the user's history that needs to be done before committing. This is something that the average forum goer doesn't really get to see, but I assure you we aren't just 1a2a3a'ing our way into increasing our ban count. gotta get with the times, its just 1a these days puosu  | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19200 Posts
On May 06 2011 19:58 Nivyan wrote: I'm more talking about how the staff handled the whole EG tournament thing in which you, the tl staff, made it sound like people shouldn't be doing PR in 'your house'. - The discussion is old as hell, but even the suggestion that TL shouldn't love EG putting out their tournament on their site - TL being a part of it or not - is horrible for the community (the sc2 one) The issue wasn't that they were doing PR here, but rather how they were going about it. They gave their side of the story, and only their side, which reflected poorly on the site they were talking about. Normally you'd include things like "They said 'blah blah blah' to which we replied 'blargyblargharg'", but in this case it was more of just "We said 'blargyblargharg'". While not untrue, it's definitely not the whole story. | ||
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Nivyan
Denmark42 Posts
On May 06 2011 20:26 KwarK wrote: First look in the automated ban thread in the closed forum to see the ban reason. If that doesn't help then you can pm the mod who banned him and ask. If their reasons are inadequate then you can create a website feedback topic to voice your concerns, complete with evidence and suggestions. What I highly recommend you don't do is make a topic in the general forum called "TL MODS = NAZIS" with just one line stating "They'll ban me for saying it". Thanks for this. On May 06 2011 20:33 Puosu wrote: I don't think we've ever or ever will ban anyone for criticizing any of the moderation we do, as long as it's done properly. In fact we take in every ounce of solid advice with appreciation. Remember that a lot more goes into banning than writing a ban reason and clicking buttons, there's discussion and thorough observation of the user's history that needs to be done before committing. This is something that the average forum goer doesn't really get to see, but I assure you we aren't just 1a2a3a'ing our way into increasing our ban count. Since I can only watch from the spectator/average lurker perspective, It's awesome to hear what kind of work that goes into banning. And while it may or may not be seen as a problem - I do feel it sometimes comes off as 1a2a3a'ing bans instead of actually looking into a situation. Personally I don't like people having a harsh language, but it must always be looked at in a context - and sometimes, and i'm nitpicking here since moderation in general is awesome, the context seems forgotten. On May 06 2011 21:04 tofucake wrote: The issue wasn't that they were doing PR here, but rather how they were going about it. They gave their side of the story, and only their side, which reflected poorly on the site they were talking about. Normally you'd include things like "They said 'blah blah blah' to which we replied 'blargyblargharg'", but in this case it was more of just "We said 'blargyblargharg'". While not untrue, it's definitely not the whole story. While I don't want to stem up yet another discussion about this topic, I'd like to point out it would be weird for me to read a post from EG about how teamliquid felt about something, on their site. Personally, stating what has happened and leaving the reasoning and justification to TL themselves was the right thing to do. That being said - thanks for being an awesome forum with great moderation! | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Slovenia715 Posts
And a second one, what is the ratio between normal users and moderators? And as for the last one, would you consider adding an option which would allow people to stretch the forums horizontally, so there would be no white lines at the sides. The same way it stretches the TL site when clicking on a stream, but for forums also? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50748 Posts
On May 06 2011 21:51 turdburgler wrote: who is the oldest member of the staff? by age not longest serving semioldguy?:p | ||
zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
No, semioldguy's age is precisely the median age of all staff members. | ||
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