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Well in response to this, in addition to the people who've asked what i look like and if i look masculine:
here is a picture of me and a fabulous friend who serves as a good contrast.
![[image loading]](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs376.snc4/45908_10150250652270576_636095575_14132133_6312899_n.jpg)
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On August 27 2010 21:38 Mora wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 21:15 Kennigit wrote:
Why do some gay guys talk with a lisp and have feminine mannerisms? Is this put on or natural? What a great question. Super fucking hard to answer. There's 2 parts. At first, when you're young, you have no control over these mannerisms. I don't know where we get them from, but many of us have them from a very very young age. I myself was very feminine when i was pre-12 years old. My nickname in elementary school was "girly-boy". (which, while mean, didn't offend me all that much because at the time i considered women to be superior to men. GOD i was gay. lol) Once i got about 10 years old i realized what 'gay' was and realized that i was acting pretty fucking gay, and started to develop a complex about it. I went from being a loud/out-going awesome kid to a depressing one pretty quickly. By the age of 13 i was riddled with many depression and anxiety disorders. I dropped out of highschool at the age of 14 cause of all those issues. I would sometimes hear what would come out of my mouth, and i would close my eyes and wish i ceased to exist because of how embarrassed i was. The stupid part is by the time i dropped out of highschool, i had learned to drop most of the mannerisms (but not all). I wasn't that flamboyant. Other kids aren't so lucky. They have no control no matter how much they try to hide it. They're doomed to relentless teasing and prejudice, much worse than any other kinds i've seen in school. One of the flamers at my school was attacked by some guys in the locker room who thought he was checking them out. They didn't beat hm up to bad but they all pissed on him in the showers. pretty sad. So yeah, those gays learn to get really tough. In fact, i was thinking about this the other day, and those kinds of gays are probably some of the toughest people i've ever met. They've never been able to hide behind their masculinity like i have, they've had to live every day of their life out in the open. After so much torture, you only have 2 ways you can cope. You can either kill yourself (too many of them still take this route), or you can fiercely and unapologetically be your fantastic flaming faggot self. This is the second part. Once gays realize that they can't control it, they will often embrace it and that's when they 'play it up' (though that's such an aweful way to put it). This is the threshold between being gay and being fabulous. Since getting to know many fabulous people, i'm no longer bothered by it in the slightest. Infact, these kinds of people are hilarious, good, amazingly strong individuals. I'm not attracted to them in the slightest, but they definitely don't annoy me like they certainly used to.
So did you eventually finish High School?
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On August 28 2010 00:08 TaiYang wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 21:38 Mora wrote:On August 27 2010 21:15 Kennigit wrote:
Why do some gay guys talk with a lisp and have feminine mannerisms? Is this put on or natural? What a great question. Super fucking hard to answer. There's 2 parts. At first, when you're young, you have no control over these mannerisms. I don't know where we get them from, but many of us have them from a very very young age. I myself was very feminine when i was pre-12 years old. My nickname in elementary school was "girly-boy". (which, while mean, didn't offend me all that much because at the time i considered women to be superior to men. GOD i was gay. lol) Once i got about 10 years old i realized what 'gay' was and realized that i was acting pretty fucking gay, and started to develop a complex about it. I went from being a loud/out-going awesome kid to a depressing one pretty quickly. By the age of 13 i was riddled with many depression and anxiety disorders. I dropped out of highschool at the age of 14 cause of all those issues. I would sometimes hear what would come out of my mouth, and i would close my eyes and wish i ceased to exist because of how embarrassed i was. The stupid part is by the time i dropped out of highschool, i had learned to drop most of the mannerisms (but not all). I wasn't that flamboyant. Other kids aren't so lucky. They have no control no matter how much they try to hide it. They're doomed to relentless teasing and prejudice, much worse than any other kinds i've seen in school. One of the flamers at my school was attacked by some guys in the locker room who thought he was checking them out. They didn't beat hm up to bad but they all pissed on him in the showers. pretty sad. So yeah, those gays learn to get really tough. In fact, i was thinking about this the other day, and those kinds of gays are probably some of the toughest people i've ever met. They've never been able to hide behind their masculinity like i have, they've had to live every day of their life out in the open. After so much torture, you only have 2 ways you can cope. You can either kill yourself (too many of them still take this route), or you can fiercely and unapologetically be your fantastic flaming faggot self. This is the second part. Once gays realize that they can't control it, they will often embrace it and that's when they 'play it up' (though that's such an aweful way to put it). This is the threshold between being gay and being fabulous. Since getting to know many fabulous people, i'm no longer bothered by it in the slightest. Infact, these kinds of people are hilarious, good, amazingly strong individuals. I'm not attracted to them in the slightest, but they definitely don't annoy me like they certainly used to. So did you eventually finish High School?
No sir.
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On August 27 2010 23:36 wantPopRocks wrote:
Wow thanks for this thread. Wasnt expecting this from TL forums.
I havent read every single post so I might be redundant, forgive me if I am. So, does anyone here "look gay" but isn't? I mean, I'm not fabulous or wearing pink all the time. Just wearing colourful clothes, thin, a kind of "juvenile face", etc.
And it has happened to me quite many times to be mistaken for a gay guy, and hit on by strangers. Thats not a problem at all since I've never really been bothered by that; I'm just wondering if that's the case of other people.
Also, do gay guys often mistakenly think a guy is gay? Or does it only happen once every 10 years?
PS: Im not hit on by guys every day; maybe it happens once a month (Im living in a large city where gay culture is fully accepted, with gay clubs all around)
Err, about 30% of the guys in Korea dress pretty 'gay' by western standards.
There is no shame here in wearing pink and carrying around a manbag.
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LOL i thought this was a thread about cheesy starcraft players that do all in builds or something 
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Gogo, I think it's not taught explicitly, but people are generally brought up in a straight upbringing. That said, tolerance differs greatly from province to province and even within individual areas of cities.
Personally, I think a large part of the reason homosexuals feel isolated from society (apart from the fact that their norms differ from some heterosexual norms) is for two reasons.
1) Those who chose to isolate themselves do it to the point that it's almost (and in some cases they are) ashamed to admit their sexuality. That's not good because to the rest of the world, it's like if they didn't exist at that point, and, what doesn't exist isn't a problem.
2) Those who don't isolate themselves tend to be overly flamboyant and militant to the cause, which makes people uncomfortable. I never really understood the idea of Gay pride parades, because in my mind you're born either heterosexual or homosexual. It's not like I go around parading that I'm proud to be a hetero. (I'm not saying that there shouldn't be gay pride parades, I'm just saying I don't get why they exist other than the fact that they allow for a gathering of likeminded individuals).
It's pretty rare to find a plain homosexual couple who aren't either living in the shadows, or off the chart shoving it down people's throats. Not to say they don't exist, I'm good friends with a few. I just think they'd (again this is a generalization) have an easier life if they took a ''hey, I'm a homosexual. What's up?'' attitude.
I think it would also help getting the word ''gay'' as a derogatory term out of everyone's vocabulary.
That said, calling out to other homosexuals for some Starcraft is fine by me. Go for it. Just keep playing with us straight people too because, I think, for the most part, anyone with half a brain will be happy to play with you regardless of your sexuality.
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Well first off mora. You suck. Why you might ask? Because your gay.
No really WHY ARE yOU ON TL AND NOT MSN? What happened to working 80 hours a week. I feel so unloved.
Anyways your strong mora I think if I was gay the term thats gay would bother me. But when I think about it I always think of when people say "your such a nigger". All though really that doesn't bother me because I've never heard it in person(always on halo/socom which has the most racist bastards ever!* but I'm sure if I did it would!)
PS. I call things gay.sowwwy
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On August 28 2010 00:15 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Well first off mora. You suck. Why you might ask? Because your gay.
No really WHY ARE yOU ON TL AND NOT MSN? What happened to working 80 hours a week. I feel so unloved.
Anyways your strong mora I think if I was gay the term thats gay would bother me. But when I think about it I always think of when people say "your such a nigger". All though really that doesn't bother me because I've never heard it in person(always on halo/socom which has the most racist bastards ever!* but I'm sure if I did it would!)
PS. I call things gay.sowwwy
hi Ace.
i love you, so i'm responding to your post out of turn (i've been trying to respond to everything in order).
i'm not on MSN cause i'm on my work laptop and they don't want me installing any software.
but i'm not currently working 80 hours a week as i'm on vacation!
I'm in BERLIN!
WOOT
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Well firstly I want to congratulate you on the quality of the thread. I went in thinking "My word. What new atrocity graces the forums this time?", mainly because I'm a hella cynical person. When I read through I found something surprisingly well written.
So bravo.
I won't go into details about my disorder, but suffice it to say that the process of growing up with it has ridiculously similar parallels. When I was growing up, a lot of things seemed faked. When I clued my parents in awhile later they both tried to rationalize how I felt in order to return to the mundane routine we'd been living with all my life.
How did your family deal with your coming out?
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Im glad about this thread if only because it exposes more straight people to gay-ness.
Recently I found out that several of my friends hold homophobic opinions, I was quite shocked. And they were not usual redneck/christian type (well one was religious so no surprise).
I found that odd, well maybe not that surprising as almost everyone from USSR here is homophobic, but that never occured to me that my coevals share that opinion too.
gl to you.
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ok I guess i can forgive you.  I didn't even notice this thread till theognis told me ( Bet your jealous!)
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all right, i need food. i'm taking a break.
talk to everyone soon! (i am in Berlin, so i may be away for a couple of days. i'm back to Canada on Monday. sit tight).
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On August 28 2010 00:27 Jakalo wrote:
(well one was religious so no surprise).
On this topic, has anyone every tried to "convert" you?
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On August 28 2010 00:29 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:ok I guess i can forgive you. I didn't even notice this thread till theognis told me ( Bet your jealous!)
OMG WHERE IS THEO?
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hey mora,
great blog. one of my best friend's little brothers are both gay. i met one when he came to visit his older brother here in beijing. they are canadian and, as is the case with most canadians i have met, we got along great.
i used to do theatre and so have had plenty of experience with gay men and i've never been unattracted to gay men in a platonic way but the thought of having sexual relations with men is quite un-bonerific. also, most of the gays i meet are attracted to and come on to me. i would never get violent or offended by their advances but i am still nonetheless wholly uninterested.
also, i am not really eroused by lesbian porn either but prefer man-on-woman (i.e. cock-n-box).
i guess the point of all this is that im kinda gay minus the cock cravings and also my favorite gay men are canadian.
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On August 28 2010 00:32 chrisSquire wrote:
hey mora,
great blog. one of my best friend's little brothers are both gay. i met one when he came to visit his older brother here in beijing. they are canadian and, as is the case with most canadians i have met, we got along great.
i used to do theatre and so have had plenty of experience with gay men and i've never been unattracted to gay men in a platonic way but the thought of having sexual relations with men is quite un-bonerific. also, most of the gays i meet are attracted to and come on to me. i would never get violent or offended by their advances but i am still nonetheless wholly uninterested.
also, i am not really eroused by lesbian porn either but prefer man-on-woman (i.e. cock-n-box).
i guess the point of all this is that im kinda gay minus the cock cravings and also my favorite gay men are canadian.
This may come to you as a shock but you are 100% maplesexual.
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Hey Mora! Gay people find me attractive... can you tell me why? :S (pic in profile)
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On August 28 2010 00:59 Sverigevader wrote:
Hey Mora! Gay people find me attractive... can you tell me why? :S (pic in profile)
I can answer this, you're just a god damn sexy mofo.
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Do gays get aroused by looking at themselves in the nude?
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