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On November 30 2011 02:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 02:07 chobopeon wrote:On November 29 2011 22:51 marvellosity wrote:On November 29 2011 10:39 Barburas wrote:On November 29 2011 09:10 1Eris1 wrote:
I just read the first few pages of this thread, and holy shit, Mora is my new favorite poster on TL, and I'm not even gay. o_0
My question is, how do you guys perceive religion? Are any of you religious? Are any of you catholic o_o? What do you think is wrong with certain Religious views vs, homosexuality, and what would you say to them?
Sorry if some of this has already been asked -.- Personally I'm an agnostic athiest, There's no such thing. Agnostic = atheist. Both descriptions mean that you do not believe in a god. If by some miracle God appeared before us in all His Splendour and Glory, atheists aren't gonna go "well, there is still no god", which is really the only distinction agnostic/atheist tries to draw. No, there's a difference. Agnostic means you believe that you cannot know whether there is a god or not. Atheist means you believe there is no god. My guess is that when this guy says agnostic atheist (poor, vague phrasing) he means he is agnostic (thinks you cannot know) who leans atheist (feels pretty sure that there is no god). There is no difference there. Atheists believe there is no god, because evidence doesn't point that way, ditto agnosticism. As you say yourself, "Agnostic means you believe that you cannot know whether there is a god or not", ergo the status quo is not believing in god, and not believing in god = atheism. Either you believe in god or you don't.
The difference is that one side believes it is possible to know, the other believes it is impossible to know. Semantics, maybe, but a difference. Anyway, back to the thread at hand! :p
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On November 30 2011 02:44 Silverfoxx wrote:
Guys, just so you know, agnostic atheist has to be two seperate things...
Agnostic is you believe there IS a higher power,but aren't sure in what form it culminates. you believe that there is a god or a deity of some kind but don't agree with standardized religions.
Atheist is you do not believe in a god at all.
Sorry to revive this, but I just have to point out that you are completely wrong. The definitions of "agnostic" and "atheist" vary a lot, but as a guy who has spent an inordinate amount of time studying religious debates, I have never seen your definition of "agnostic" used. I don't know where you heard that "agnostic" implies a belief in a higher power. Agnostic only means that you don't believe that it is knowable. Atheist/theist is an issue of whether you believe in God, regardless of whether you think it's knowable. You can be a gnostic theist, a gnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic who doesn't lean either way. That's why I call myself an agnostic atheist: I don't believe that it's ultimately knowable, but I'm fairly sure there's no God.
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On November 30 2011 05:22 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 02:44 Silverfoxx wrote:
Guys, just so you know, agnostic atheist has to be two seperate things...
Agnostic is you believe there IS a higher power,but aren't sure in what form it culminates. you believe that there is a god or a deity of some kind but don't agree with standardized religions.
Atheist is you do not believe in a god at all. Sorry to revive this, but I just have to point out that you are completely wrong. The definitions of "agnostic" and "atheist" vary a lot, but as a guy who has spent an inordinate amount of time studying religious debates, I have never seen your definition of "agnostic" used. I don't know where you heard that "agnostic" implies a belief in a higher power. Agnostic only means that you don't believe that it is knowable. Atheist/theist is an issue of whether you believe in God, regardless of whether you think it's knowable. You can be a gnostic theist, a gnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic who doesn't lean either way. That's why I call myself an agnostic atheist: I don't believe that it's ultimately knowable, but I'm fairly sure there's no God.
There you go! That's what I figured you meant.
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On November 30 2011 05:22 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 02:44 Silverfoxx wrote:
Guys, just so you know, agnostic atheist has to be two seperate things...
Agnostic is you believe there IS a higher power,but aren't sure in what form it culminates. you believe that there is a god or a deity of some kind but don't agree with standardized religions.
Atheist is you do not believe in a god at all. Sorry to revive this, but I just have to point out that you are completely wrong. The definitions of "agnostic" and "atheist" vary a lot, but as a guy who has spent an inordinate amount of time studying religious debates, I have never seen your definition of "agnostic" used. I don't know where you heard that "agnostic" implies a belief in a higher power. Agnostic only means that you don't believe that it is knowable. Atheist/theist is an issue of whether you believe in God, regardless of whether you think it's knowable. You can be a gnostic theist, a gnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic who doesn't lean either way. That's why I call myself an agnostic atheist: I don't believe that it's ultimately knowable, but I'm fairly sure there's no God.
Huh, thanks for clearing it up. I was going off what I've been told by family, who I assumed was correct based on the fact that my aunt was a religious studies major :x So... yeah.
Thanks for correcting me though. ^-^
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On November 30 2011 05:22 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 02:44 Silverfoxx wrote:
Guys, just so you know, agnostic atheist has to be two seperate things...
Agnostic is you believe there IS a higher power,but aren't sure in what form it culminates. you believe that there is a god or a deity of some kind but don't agree with standardized religions.
Atheist is you do not believe in a god at all. Sorry to revive this, but I just have to point out that you are completely wrong. The definitions of "agnostic" and "atheist" vary a lot, but as a guy who has spent an inordinate amount of time studying religious debates, I have never seen your definition of "agnostic" used. I don't know where you heard that "agnostic" implies a belief in a higher power. Agnostic only means that you don't believe that it is knowable. Atheist/theist is an issue of whether you believe in God, regardless of whether you think it's knowable. You can be a gnostic theist, a gnostic atheist, an agnostic theist, an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic who doesn't lean either way. That's why I call myself an agnostic atheist: I don't believe that it's ultimately knowable, but I'm fairly sure there's no God.
Thanks, you explained it better than I could, and I really didn't feel like getting into an argument over it.
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On November 30 2011 13:21 Shiragaku wrote:O__O u gusta?
omggggg me gusta. o___o
i've never understood guys that say they don't like the skinny fem type boys. they're so cuuuute. T__T;
also, I'm jelly of how hot they are. XD;
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He makes it up as it goes, it goes away to places he can only have in other people's minds
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On November 30 2011 13:21 Shiragaku wrote:O__O u gusta?
o,,o . . .
SOTG music is somehow fitting with this right now.
and thats kind of cute ^_^
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On November 30 2011 13:21 Shiragaku wrote:O__O u gusta?
A mi me gusta! I enjoyed it! :D
I want one of them to snuggle with!
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But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay.
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On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay.
It's pretty much fanservice for girls.
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On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls.
But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do.
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On November 30 2011 04:35 proteininja wrote:Do the people in this thread have a starcraft 2 chat channel at which to congregate? Edit: Check this out silverfoxx http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/I think this may clear things up with his chosen terminology.
GTL
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On November 30 2011 16:24 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls. But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do.
Yeah I can't imagine many American guys doing that, although I think younger generations of actors would be more willing to try. Or so I can hope. :D
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On November 30 2011 16:46 Pixilated wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 16:24 Shiragaku wrote:On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls. But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do. Yeah I can't imagine many American guys doing that, although I think younger generations of actors would be more willing to try. Or so I can hope. :D
Write in to your network of choice saying that you would like to see two boys kissing. Sign your letter as from "Mary-Sue" or whatever. Join the fight!
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On November 30 2011 22:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 16:46 Pixilated wrote:On November 30 2011 16:24 Shiragaku wrote:On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls. But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do. Yeah I can't imagine many American guys doing that, although I think younger generations of actors would be more willing to try. Or so I can hope. :D Write in to your network of choice saying that you would like to see two boys kissing. Sign your letter as from "Mary-Sue" or whatever. Join the fight!
...or just watch porn. Boys kiss in that all the time.
There are actually tons of gay kisses on television, it's just that no one makes a big deal out of them so you don't ever notice/see them.
And I'm pretty sure the past 4 or 5 episodes of Family Guy and American Dad have been Seth McFarlane's gay fantasies. He's just not even trying to hide it anymore.
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On November 30 2011 23:36 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 22:25 marvellosity wrote:On November 30 2011 16:46 Pixilated wrote:On November 30 2011 16:24 Shiragaku wrote:On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls. But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do. Yeah I can't imagine many American guys doing that, although I think younger generations of actors would be more willing to try. Or so I can hope. :D Write in to your network of choice saying that you would like to see two boys kissing. Sign your letter as from "Mary-Sue" or whatever. Join the fight! ...or just watch porn. Boys kiss in that all the time. There are actually tons of gay kisses on television, it's just that no one makes a big deal out of them so you don't ever notice/see them. And I'm pretty sure the past 4 or 5 episodes of Family Guy and American Dad have been Seth McFarlane's gay fantasies. He's just not even trying to hide it anymore.
Pfft, boys kissing on normal television is way better than porn. Unless you're just trying to get your rocks off, of course
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On November 30 2011 23:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 23:36 Klondikebar wrote:On November 30 2011 22:25 marvellosity wrote:On November 30 2011 16:46 Pixilated wrote:On November 30 2011 16:24 Shiragaku wrote:On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls. But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do. Yeah I can't imagine many American guys doing that, although I think younger generations of actors would be more willing to try. Or so I can hope. :D Write in to your network of choice saying that you would like to see two boys kissing. Sign your letter as from "Mary-Sue" or whatever. Join the fight! ...or just watch porn. Boys kiss in that all the time. There are actually tons of gay kisses on television, it's just that no one makes a big deal out of them so you don't ever notice/see them. And I'm pretty sure the past 4 or 5 episodes of Family Guy and American Dad have been Seth McFarlane's gay fantasies. He's just not even trying to hide it anymore. Pfft, boys kissing on normal television is way better than porn. Unless you're just trying to get your rocks off, of course
Fair enough. Is it weird that the animated version of Ryan Reynolds got me all hot and bothered?
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On November 30 2011 23:47 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2011 23:43 marvellosity wrote:On November 30 2011 23:36 Klondikebar wrote:On November 30 2011 22:25 marvellosity wrote:On November 30 2011 16:46 Pixilated wrote:On November 30 2011 16:24 Shiragaku wrote:On November 30 2011 16:14 babylon wrote:On November 30 2011 15:21 Shiragaku wrote:
But the sad thing is that I do not think many of them are actually gay or bi, like most women who kiss other women on screen are simply gay for pay. It's pretty much fanservice for girls. But what shocks me is that it is impossible to imagine many guys in America kissing one another to please a girl or get their attention like girls here often do or can do. Yeah I can't imagine many American guys doing that, although I think younger generations of actors would be more willing to try. Or so I can hope. :D Write in to your network of choice saying that you would like to see two boys kissing. Sign your letter as from "Mary-Sue" or whatever. Join the fight! ...or just watch porn. Boys kiss in that all the time. There are actually tons of gay kisses on television, it's just that no one makes a big deal out of them so you don't ever notice/see them. And I'm pretty sure the past 4 or 5 episodes of Family Guy and American Dad have been Seth McFarlane's gay fantasies. He's just not even trying to hide it anymore. Pfft, boys kissing on normal television is way better than porn. Unless you're just trying to get your rocks off, of course Fair enough. Is it weird that the animated version of Ryan Reynolds got me all hot and bothered?
Yes, yes it is 
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